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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:08 PM Original message |
So: 31 pregnant teens/mothers means up to 31 FLDS men who should be in jail |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not necessarily.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Yes, necessarily. I said "up to." |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Take a |
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brokensymmetry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. 31? Nooo.... |
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dubeskin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Then High-Five to Him! |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Making jokes is no laughing matter. n/t |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. or just one really busy man n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. They're polygamists. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. And all we may have is some unidentified DNA -- connecting children |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. DNA candistinguish between siblings |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. probably fewer than 31.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. yeah, that's why I said "up to." |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hopefully DNA testing will show how many and who they were. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. How many, but probably not who they were -- unless at least some of |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why did they let this go on for so long? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. their constitutional right..... to be fuckin the children, havent you heard |
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corporatemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. I sure hope Ben Stein makes another one of those great movies about this tragedy. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. So you've heard ... ? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree and also the father of every baby of an underage girl In the US. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Every single rapist should be prosecuted. But I wouldn't prosecute |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It depends on the situation. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Of course -- I was assuming that the girl was consenting. n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Interesting point but what about consensual sex if the male is older than the girl? It is possible |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. No, I wouldn't -- if it's an older male, it's statutory rape. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Still illegal. It is up to the older person to make sure they follow the law. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. jody... you are defending the right of church per constitution to have sex with youth |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No, I abhor the situation where underage girls are impregnated and will not accept any distinction |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. thank you for hte clarification. i am all for old men who get girls preg outside of religion |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I misunderstood your earlier point. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I believe you and I agree. Have a peaceful evening. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You, too, jody. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. I agree with you here also. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yes, it's no wonder none of those men are hiring lawyers to help get custody of their kids back |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Not only that, but the mothers lie when getting state and federal aid |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
41. I know a few non-FLDS welfare moms who have done that |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Yup- me too |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
22. Also depends on how old the males were, no? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. How much age difference would matter? n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. If the males were 15 or whatever, like the females, that's a different thing... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I guess I would rely upon state law although I believe states have rather different laws. n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. there's no way the old guys in charge would let a 15 year-old male have one of the young wives... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. In the history of that sect, young men are rarely "given" wives. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Ah - ok. I'm not that up on the details of the folks. Just covering all the bases. :) |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
40. It's like a breeding house for humans |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. This ranch was used for a very specfic purpose |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. exactly what it feels to me like. for old farts to prey on..... n/t |
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janetle (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Yep, saw this, too--Where are the boys!!!! |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. many get run-off when they hit puberty... |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
49. Actually it could be 10 or less men. |
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