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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:40 PM Original message |
The Texas Polygamist Sect: Uncoupled and Unchartered |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. I see little difference between a husband having children by multiple wives and a non-husband having |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Jody |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Even when those wives are 14 and 15 years old? nt |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Hell, they can have abortions and get BC pills at that age without parental consent |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Are they being FORCED into having |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes. I've read many accounts of 14 & 15 year old girls having children out of wedlock, haven't you? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Yeah. Child rape is just so cool. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Please provide a source proving the "cult that ritually rapes children" & proof that society does |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. OP was about FLDS, and FLDS is not about polygamy but about |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I stand by my opinion stated in #1. Have a nice day. n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. FLDS is not being investigated for polygamy. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Please read the OP again. n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Seems to me that the OP's focus |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. I read the entire article... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Well the teen birthrate in FLDS.. |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Your comparison is apples to oranges. How many of the 53/1000 result from unions between |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. here we go again. these are real children having babies at |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. inevitably male, validating fuckin our youth by adult male. go figure. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
61. And usually the fathers are also teenagers. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. The difference is free will & choice. The FDLS kids don't have either. They're basically slaves. nm |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN>>> |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. There is a big difference... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-24-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. Where the hell was he when Jeffs moved his kids to Texas? |
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elizfeelinggreat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. EXACTLY |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
13. Some people still believe that it's okay to keep children as slaves.. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
14. "Ye shall know them by their fruits" (Matt 7:16 ) |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. Even the Men are brainwashed (some of them), |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
16. Inbreeding among polygamists producing a caste of severely deformed children |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. that is a truly horrifying article |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. and taking consideration girls have babies at 13, 14, 15 generation after generation, it |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Exactly - this is also behind the moving of these children from one location to another |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Interesting opinions re inbreeding. I understand that over 60% of marriages in Iraq are between |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. This has nothing to do with Iraq. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Post #16 to which I replied was about inbreeding. Have a nice day. n/t |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Still has nothing to do with Iraq. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Facts show inbreeding is extensive in Iraq. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. This thread is about the cult here in the states. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. #16 was about inbreeding within the FLDS and whether that produces birth defects. n/t |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I think what you say is true as theifdoms intermarry but not at the % as this cult has. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Do you know how extensive inbreeding has been within FLDS? n/t |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The article I posted said it has been going on for 70 yrs. See link....... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Thanks, I overlooked that stat. I found interesting stats at the link below. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. None of those "facts" were sourced. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Correct but the links below to sources support the conclusion that marriage between first cousins |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. It also depends on how many generations this goes on for. nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Do you have a source for your assertion "depends on how many generations this goes on". n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Basic genetics. Amazon has lots of books on genetics, local college may offer a course also. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Obviously you are not able to support your assertion. Have a nice day. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Yeah, a knowledge in basic genetics doesn't support my assertion about basic genetics. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. That is true but we are talking about inter-marriage for over 70 years. We all know Roosevelt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. If facts support your assertion, then I agree with you. Genetic research in the 21st century will |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Do you have a source for that assertion? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Guess you don't have facts to back up that assertion. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
63. That doesn't make much sense. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Are you simply musing about cousin marriages elsewhere in the world, or |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I was replying to #16 and whether children of cousins are more likely to have birth defects. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. It depends on a number of factors. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
43. At first I had sympathy for the mothers because I thought they really didn't know any better |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. The same way they lie about not knowing who the father of their babies are |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. i agree with your conclusion |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. The women are completely powerless in that community |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. i can understand. i can also understand the child raised in worst of ways |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. "hard to find a place... where the law will ignore you while you blatantly ignore the law." LMAO!! |
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