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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:23 PM
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Rightwing W.Va. columnist attacks DU
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:26 PM
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1. So, Don Surber
may be one of the Trolls here.....:shrug:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:48 PM
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23. He's a freeper - see post #22 n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:26 PM
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2. Same guy...
"Saddam swung me back over to the death penalty side. The rot-in-prison thing does not seem worse. Having him swing and sway in the breeze sent a loud, clear message to tyrants in neighboring states."

Seems he can dish it out, but not take it.

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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:27 PM
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3. I've met Surber a couple times in a different context.
We both posted to a Cleveland Indians forum for years. Nice guy, but a total idiot about politics.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:30 PM
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5. odd-his co-worker desicribed him to me as an unstable rageaholic
prone to office tempet tantrums.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:36 PM
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12. Could well be. I only saw him at minor league baseball games
that the Tribe won. ;-)

Funnier thing was that we went to the same high school - I was a few years ahead and didn't know him then - and we seemed to have one conservative per class, with everybody else being flaming liberals. Surber musta been his year's conservative idiot.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:44 PM
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17. that makes sense to me
His writing is disjointed and incoherent.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:30 PM
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4. Truly delusional comments
This idiot criticizes DU and then in the same column puts forth this gem:

<<The last time I looked, no one was in jail simply for hurling epithets at Cheney or his boss, President Bush. It should be noted that this administration has liberated 52 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite constant protest at home.>>

I suspect the 52 million people BushCo "liberated" might have a different take on it. These folks are so liberated that they are leaving their "liberated" country in droves. Anyone with the funds are long gone.

But DU is the bad guy... :eyes:

Mz Pip
:dem:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:44 PM
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16. Their access to water and electricity regressed to who knows which dicade.
They can't use banks. Their kids are blown up at school or playing soccer. People disappear or sit in torment or torture blacked out in Diego Garcia.

I hope that if we find prisons at Diego Garcia that they throw someone in Great Britain in jail.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:30 PM
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6. I honestly thought that the post actually was trying to draw
these types of comments.
If I had to assume Surber was posting here--that would be my first guess.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:30 PM
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7. My reply to this
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 07:32 PM by Contrite
What does Mr. Surber have to say about Ann Coulter's remarks that "liberals" should be killed?

College Liberals = Traitors

A late January 2002 quote from Coulter's address to CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference).

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

Her words were applauded by National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice, Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy Thompson, and Lynne Cheney (wife of Vice President Cheney), all of whom were in attendance.

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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:31 PM
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8. Trolling message boards and blogs for anonymous comments is shoddy journalism
Then again, in this day and age, I'm not really surprised.

Still, the ethics are rather questionable.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:07 PM
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27. and you could post something yourself then pretend to be outraged by it.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:32 PM
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9. what do you expect?
It's a slow news day, the thugs are whining in Congress. And the only REAL news is about Walter Reed.

Think this dunderhead is going to report about anything SERIOUS?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:32 PM
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10. It should be noted that this administration has liberated 52 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq,
Is this what you call liberated?



Or this?



How 'bout this?

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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:23 PM
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32. does that 52 mill include the the ones that we've killed?
Liberated to an unstable government that survival is a daily goal..? one more note, if your going to quote Jefferson and suggest that you know what he has said, perhaps you should spend some time reading his works....no wonder people from W VA. get a bad rap. It's a shame that one very confused man can spread such bad information.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:33 PM
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11. My favorite quote from the article
I am amused by how today's protesters wrap themselves in patriotism. Are they unaware of Samuel Johnson's observation that patriotism is the final refuge of the scoundrel?


Umm, has this guy ever noticed how much the Republican Party loves to wave the flag?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:37 PM
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13. He left his e-mail address for those so inclined as to respond. I'm not
one of them.

Don Surber may be reached at donsurber@dailymail.com.
His blog is at http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:41 PM
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14. letter to the editor of the paper is the way to go
personal e-mails to columnists serve no pint, other than to end up in the delte bin.

a public rebuttal is always better.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:42 PM
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15. You can contact the paper instead. I did.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:45 PM
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18. Two words for that guy: "Chad Castagana"
Edited on Thu Mar-01-07 07:46 PM by impeachdubya
You're fuckin' A the right wing has it's nutcases, "too". Of course, unlike your left-wing variety, the right wing nutcases often have cushy jobs at AM radio stations or even cable networks, where they can broadcast their incendiary exhortations towards violence to millions, then run back and hide behind "Jeez, I was only kidding" :eyes:

To wit, you've had Glenn Beck fantasizing on-air about killing Michael Moore. Michael Savage and Ann Coulter fantasizing about killing, maiming, beating all manner of liberals, in all manner of gruesome fashion. Etc. Etc. It goes on and on.

As far as the comments some may have made about Cheney- I didn't make them, I didn't see them, I didn't participate in those threads. If indeed comments were made along those lines I would find them reprehensible. They also would have been in violation of DU's rules. The worst thing I would wish upon Cheney is a full and thorough investigation of every activity, extra-constitutional and all, that his administration has engaged in; and I suspect that would be plenty bad enough.

But lets not let these right-wing goons get all hand-wringy over a few comments here, they know perfectly well foul, hateful invective is not just tolerated, but encouraged on the right. Go over to cafepress and see how long it takes to come up with a right wing site selling gear advocating things like "Save a seal- Club a Liberal" or with rifle targets superimposed over the prominent democrat of your choice.

And Michelle Malkin? Boy, that's rich. Let me say it again: Chad Castagana.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:53 PM
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19. "I am amused by how today's protesters wrap themselves .."
"I am amused by how today's protesters wrap themselves in patriotism. Are they unaware of Samuel Johnson's observation that patriotism is the final refuge of the scoundrel?"

LOL. Coming from the other side..it is hillarious!

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shortcake Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 07:59 PM
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20. Sur-bi-na-tor
Sur-bi-na-tor : (noun)
one whose primary occupation is exterminating the illogical, ahistorical, inarticulate ramblings of Don Surber, blogger and columnist for the Charleston Daily Mail

http://surbinator.blogspot.com/
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:43 PM
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21. Howard Kurtz wrote a similar column in today's Washington Post:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:45 PM
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22. He's a damn freeper? But he only critiques DU & Kos?
http://www.freerepublic.com/~loucifer/contact?U=%2Ffocus%2Ff-news%2Fbrowse

Lou Cifer
Since Dec 5, 2005

On the web
donsurber.blogspot.com

E-mail
donsurber@yahoo.com

Instant Message
Don Surber

Aliases (alternative names for use in To: fields)
loucifer

--------------------
http://www.donsurber.blogspot.com

Fucker!

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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:57 PM
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24. Did you notice the name he posts under on Free Republic?


Lou Cifer

Speak that out loud, and tell me it is not a very fitting name for someone like him.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:59 PM
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26. I thought you were going to say Reich Marshall Butt Plug
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:12 PM
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30. It fits ... among others!
Funny - I've been searching all over the web. Apparently Surber/LouCifer has NO PROBLEM w/the spew from Malkin, Coulter or the nest of vipers at freepland (dare I say Chad Castagana?).

He just gets indignant @ DU, dKos & liberals.

A fucker as well as a lazy journalist.

I use the term journalist in jest, btw.

Fucker ... I meant!

With a little, bitty, limp one.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 08:58 PM
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25. I wasn't mentioned by name
:(
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:08 PM
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28. Went to Michelle Malkin's blog. As sick and twisted as she is, I would still do her.
If she ever cut off the sex, I'd be out of there in half a second though.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:10 PM
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29. Hmmm...how could Jefferson question political dissent when
a) he was a political dissenter
b) said that the liberty tree needs to be refreshed with a little blood now and agin
c) supported the French Revolution for a long while

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:21 PM
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31. Mr. Surber looks for opportunities for outrage with a microscope and a fine set of tweezers
Apparently, he's outraged over comments concerning the Vice President that suggest that 'evil cannot be killed but requires an exorcism'. With the last lines of his article, he even acknowledges that these comments are "in jest". So why so much outrage over statements only intended to mock or ridicule the Vice President? And if someone like Hillary becomes our next President, will Mr. Suber then be searching every thread of every conservative blog to condemn any dissenters who mock and ridicule her?

And as far as Thomas Jefferson is concerned, he also said this:

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then.”

But of course Republicans will only rely on the above quote regarding the "resistance to government" through dissent that must be "always kept alive" when it is a liberal or Democratic administration in office.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 09:29 PM
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33. Was Cheney A "Duly Elected Official"?
"And rooting for the assassination of a duly elected official, even in jest, is disgusting."

Maybe he was.

Maybe rooting for his assassination is an intolerable exercise.

Like rooting for the assassination of Hugo Chavez, for instance. Right, Mr. Robertson?

Or Fidel Castro.

Or Saddam Hussein, for that matter.

Selective morality. It's what makes the right wingers insufferable hypocrites.
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