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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:37 PM
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Dan Abrams Answers Karl Rove at Huffington Post: (Re: Siegelman Case "You Have Refused To Answer")
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 05:44 PM by Hissyspit
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-abrams/a-letter-to-karl-rove_b_97815.html

Dan Abrams: A Letter To Karl Rove

April 21, 2008

Dear Mr. Rove:

I write in response to your letter about my coverage of the Siegelman case -- a case we have been covering extensively. Its potential significance to the American justice system extends well beyond the halls of the Alabama Statehouse.

Your letter poses questions that you believe I should have asked as part of our coverage, but many of the most significant ones only you can answer. I address your specific critique below, but I begin by wondering, based on many of your questions, whether you actually saw, or reviewed, all of our coverage. Or perhaps, as you put it, "you don't want the facts to get in the way of a good fable."

You accuse me of "diminishing the search for facts and evidence," yet thus far you have refused to answer any questions under oath or even from me that would aid in that very search.

In that respect, I want to be very clear that we repeatedly sought, through your lawyer, your presence on my program to respond to allegations made about you. I repeated that invitation on the air last week. I repeat it again by this letter.

In your letter, you ask:

Does it bother you, as your coverage asserts, as Governor Siegelman summarized it in his April 7th appearance on your program, that he is the victim of a vast conspiracy involving two US Attorneys, the Alabama Attorney General, unnamed career officials in the Public Integrity Unit at the U.S. Justice Department, unnamed higher ups in the Justice Department, and, oh yes, Karl Rove and that there is not a single piece of paper, not a single email, not a single conversation, not a single disgruntled career employee who's come forward, not one credible witness to the workings of a conspiracy?

First, my coverage never "asserted" that Governor Siegelman is "the victim of a vast conspiracy," or even that he is necessarily innocent. I do not, and did not, feel comfortable passing judgment on that ultimate question. I repeatedly stated that on the air. Reading your letter, one would falsely presume that I have blindly accepted all of his claims at face value.

This is a prosecution, however, that led over 50 former Attorneys General from around the nation -- Democrats and Republicans -- to express their concern to Congress about the basic fairness of the case. I share many of those concerns. I too have serious questions about the way the case was handled. Given that, is it your contention that it's journalistically unsound to allow the former Governor of the state of Alabama to even state his position on the air?

Or would you expect a responsible journalist to say something like this to the Governor: "Anyone looking at the record would say, 'wait a second, you were convicted by a jury of seven counts.' This is, you know, a jury of 12 ordinary folks who looked at the evidence with regard to bribery, conspiracy, mail fraud and said, 'Governor Siegelman is guilty.'" That I did in my interview with Governor Siegelman on April 7, 2008.

And would you expect a good journalist to seek out and read the denial from Karl Rove's attorney? That I did as well.

And maybe even to have said, "Governor, it sounds like you are alleging corruption on so many different levels. I mean -- I think some people can accept the notion that, you know, there are certain Republicans who are out to get you, etc, but as we talk more about this, there are more people involved and it sounds like you're saying that the corruption here was pretty deep?" I also did that. But maybe my questions do not fit with, as you put it, your "pre-selected" story line?

My "pre-selected story line" was not pre-selected at all. It was my considered conclusion -- and my only conclusion -- after assessing a number of troubling aspects about the case and the prosecution of it, that the Federal Court of Appeals in Atlanta should order the release of the former Governor pending his appeal. The appeals court did just that over the objection of the trial judge. The appellate judges cited "substantial questions of law and fact."

I too have substantial questions of law and fact about the case and some of them involve you.

You seem particularly incensed that I interviewed Dana Jill Simpson, a Republican who had volunteered for the campaign of Siegelman's opponent and claimed, in sworn testimony, that she heard conversations about you and your involvement.

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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:43 PM
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1. Karl,...jumping the gun and SHOWING YOUR GUILT!!! ROFLMAO!!!
:rofl: GOOOOO KARL (you nasty, wicked scumbucket, YOU)!!!!

JUMP THE GUN,...SOME MORE (you fascist wallowing pig-puke, YOU)!!!

Yes, Karl,...I DO HATE YOU. You earned every bit of it. When you suffer, though, I won't wallow as you do. I'll just let go.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 05:46 PM
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2. Rove Is Still Bulletproof
Rove is all but goading Abrams to keep investigating...along with others. His "questions" have opened up more quetions that he needs to answer and to do so in front of Congress as well, but Rove knows he can give the finger to everyone here and play his usual spin games.

Here's the rub...and one that needs light treading for the next couple months. Rove knows that he can continue to ignore any subpoena as his past ones are still being fought in court and I suspect we won't get a verdict any time soon. Also that if he is indicted, he will be pardoned faster than you can say "Scooter" and really made bulletproof.

My hope is Abrams stays on this story and draws Rove into making a stupid mistake (or should I say more) by keeping this story in the headlines and on prime-time TV. He's playing Texas fold'em...hoping to confront and intimidate so that the story goes away...or that he demonizes Abrams (hate radio to the rescue) to again attack the messanger and hope Abrams backs down.

I'll definitely be watching Abrams tonight...let's see if Rove went that one bridge to far here...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:00 PM
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3. K&R
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:03 PM
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4. Dan Abrams
It would be awesome for someone in MSM to take a stand. Seems like if Abrams folds, somebody must have warned about about "having an accident"

-90% jimmy
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:28 PM
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5. .
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:12 PM
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6. Read his whole letter.
It's good!

Thanks, Dan. Keep it up!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:53 PM
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11. You're not kidding!
These two snippets are particularly good:

You ask why only later did she claim that you asked her to follow the Governor to attempt to take compromising photos. Specifically, you wrote, "Did it not bother you Ms. Simpson failed to mention the claim she made to CBS for their February 24, 2008 story, that you then repeated on February 25th?"

Fair question. Which is why I asked her the following on February 25, 2008:

ABRAMS: And why have you never mentioned before the allegations of Rove and the pictures?

SIMPSON: Oh, I mentioned it to people. They just did not use it. Because nobody wanted to go into the fact that I had been following Don Siegelman trying to get pictures of him cheating on his wife.

ABRAMS: But some of your critics have said, "You know, in front of Congress she had a lot of opportunities. Why didn't she mention this before?"

SIMPSON: Well let me explain something to you. I talked to congressional investigators, Dan. And when I talked to those congressional investigators I told them that I had followed Don Siegelman and tried to get pictures of him cheating on his wife. However, they suggested to me that that was not relevant because there was nothing illegal about that and they'd just prefer that not come up at the hearing that day.



And these two related questions that Abrams would like to ask Turdblossom on this program or in a written response:

5)Do you know why your lawyer told us that you would testify about this case if you were subpoenaed but now, after you have been invited to do so, he states that there are issues of executive privilege: "Whether, when and about what a former White House official will testify ... is not for me or my client to decide" he said.

6) You have said you never spoke with the White House about the case. If true, what is the possible "executive privilege?"


If only Turdblossom were not so cowardly ... :sigh:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:24 PM
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13. Good snipping.
Dan, as a lawyer and a journalist, is aware of the kinds of games Rove is playing here, and it's an indication of Rove's panic that he thinks it's a good idea to challenge Abrams in this way.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:15 AM
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15. Yes, to think a 5-page letter would resolve the matter in Abram's mind is cowardly panic.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:28 PM
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7. Dan is doing a bang-up job on this. I hope he keeps
all over it for us. (The comments at the link are pretty damn enthusiastic too!)
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:33 PM
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8. not really a denial at all--wants 'documented' proof of a vast conspiracy (what with all the emails
deleted and/or on the GoP servers)
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:36 PM
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9. I remember when Dan was just starting out...
...so stiff and apparently nervous.

In this short time, he's gone from that to calling out Karl Rove (and actually pushing the right buttons!)

Bravo, Dan!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:47 PM
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10. "I too have substantial questions of law and fact about the case and some of them involve you."
ditto that
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:54 PM
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12. The eight questions are a good start Now repeat them for Rove's staff and
I have another three-six dozen questions about another half-dozen scandals.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:10 PM
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14. VIDEO: Dan Abrams Responds to Karl Rove regarding Siegelman coverge.
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