****Official Petraeus Hearing Thread - THREE****

[annabanana]

thread #2 : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3124080&mesg_id=3124080

thread #1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3123552&mesg_id=3123552

CSpan 1 and online

[annabanana]

1. Nelson is at least not saying everything's rosy

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. Yea, he's doing OK quoting general Odem

I'm glad somebody quoted him and Gen. McCafrey

[annabanana]

5. There are a LOTof Generals who think Patr. is full of it...

[gateley]

3. I THINK Nelson is on the SFRC, too --

I don't recall my sense of him from last week's SFRC hearings, though....

[gateley]

6. Quoting McCaffrey -- THIS THING IS OVER.! nt

[Graybeard]

10. McCaffrey straight talk vs. Petraeus double talk.

Answered with more no answer bull shit.

[RepublicanElephant]

4. petraeus: "so?!"

!

[annabanana]

7. I caught that too. .

[gateley]

9. NO! Really? I thought that was a joke - He said that? A la Cheney??

[annabanana]

11. in effect... not in those words, though

[gateley]

8. If last week's SFRC Iraq hearings are any indication of

how it'll go today, they'll be tougher than this committee seems to be.

[annabanana]

12. thread needs one more rec

[annabanana]

13. Oh God... Graham is up.. He is the worst of the worst

[Graybeard]

17. Sam Seder says will someone PLEASE shut that closet door.

Drooling all over the General's medals.

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. Log cabin republican

[NJSecularist]

14. Senator Graham fellating Petraeus

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[RepublicanElephant]

15. i just heard a closet door creaking...

(thanks sam seder!)

[LSK]

Lindsey kissass Graham

We're making progress We're making progress We're making progress

[LSK]

19. sounds like he rehearsed this segment

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. Thanks, that's what I thought it would be

Thom Hartman is discussing the hearing and
interviewing a guest that knows what's happening

I don't know who it is.

[Eurobabe]

16. Lindsey Graham-Cracker is up

What an ass-kissing CON.

Hey thanks anabanana for thread 3!

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. On Mute..

Anything worth hearing?

[Roland99]

18. Is this about to become NC-17 TV when Sen. Graham goes down and gives

Petraeus and Crocker some blowjobs?

[gateley]

20. WE didn't kick Al Q out of Iraq, the Iraqis did!

[LSK]

23. actually we bribed them

[Supersedeas]

35. taxpayer funded temporary shift in affiliation -- a bribed temp peace long enough to

see a new administration be blamed to the escalation in violence once the 'hush' money runs out.

[gateley]

42. Yeah, you're right -- I was knee-jerk calling bullshit. :-)

[gateley]

25. I hope the SFRC members are watching this

so they are on top of the crap that Patraeus and Crocker are spewing and can take it from there.

[tishaLA]

22. Lindsay Graham is so vile

I especially hate him when he tries to sound tough.

[annabanana]

24. "What is Iran up to"? Lebanonization. . What the hell is that?

[bobthedrummer]

27. BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN

[underpants]

29. Graham sounds like Deputy Dog

just saying

[RepublicanElephant]

28. is graham kidding? comparing lebanon to iraq?

real democracy compared to colonial flunkies "running" iraq?

[annabanana]

33. I think Graham used the term, and Crocker seemed to agree... Now I see

a graphic up that uses the term

[Solly Mack]

31. Paying more? They must mean paying with more of their blood

[annabanana]

32. Ben Nelson up.. He'll be worse than Bill, I think

[Ichingcarpenter]

37. Asking about reconstruction money- is it a loan or a give away

Amb. says it is not the same ..... in other words its a give away.

[annabanana]

34. The term "Lebanonization" will be on the evening news (I predict)

[annabanana]

36. Nelson is hitting Crocker on the money thing...

Iraq paying for it's own way

[gateley]

38. I only tuned in recently -- have ALL these people been spineless and

fawning? (Although Nelson is doing well).

[spanone]

40. crocker 'ah ah oh, ah ah ah ah'

[annabanana]

41. Ted Kennedy was good

[gateley]

47. Excellent! How about Clinton (if she's spoken yet)? I won't ask about McCain.

[Solly Mack]

39. I'm beyond offended at the talk of Iraq "paying us the money back"

for "freeing them"

Seriously offended...down to my core.

As if I am going to cheer such a thing. As if if that somehow makes it all better.

We invaded for lies. Killed their people. Tortured their people. Raped their people. Detained their people....destroyed infrastructure and I'm supposed to be impressed with "they can pay for it now"?

That's supposed to be a selling point that is supposed to make this all more palatable?

[libnnc]

43. sickening

just fucking sickening

[RepublicanElephant]

48. i love dawn french!

one of the great ladies of britcoms!

[Solly Mack]

59. Politicians speak of what we have done (and are doing) to the Iraqis

in terms of having done them a favor by invading and occupying them for lies.

and each time I hear anyone from government speak of Iraq in those terms, I rage

[Ichingcarpenter]

45. Crocker can't answer the question on the monies

don't halt the give away to Iraq.

[RepublicanElephant]

uh, uh, oh, uh, blackwater's gotta get paid!

and the other war profiteers!

[annabanana]

44. "For me a billion dollars is not "pencil dust". . HA

[annabanana]

46. Thune is up.. snore

[gateley]

49. The R's just LOVE bringing up Iran, don't they? Laying the groundwork. nt

[spanone]

50. it appears that no one is speaking for the AMERICAN PEOPLE who want this shit to end

we have no voice

[RepublicanElephant]

52. still waiting for barack!

!

[goclark]

54. When is Obama's turn?

That's all I want to hear.

Now MSNBC is cutting out ~ Andrea Shill Greenspan(Rethug) Mitchell said so. :puke:

[gateley]

58. He's not on this Committee -- he's on the SFRC. Those being at 2:30pm Eastern. nt

[goclark]

65. I'll set my alarm clock ~

Wake me when this crap is over for the morning shift.:boring:

HC is up now and she is reading her position well.

I like what she is saying.

[gateley]

55. And Biden and Boxer and some others on the SFRC --

they were a lot tougher last week during the SFRC Iraq hearings than this committee seems to be today.

[libnnc]

51. I'm constantly astounded that these people get paid

enormous amounts of money to send total strangers to kill and be killed by other total strangers.

And they sit there so calmly and reserved...like they're talking about widget production.


Widgets.

[Reader Rabbit]

56. Murder by Numbers

But you can reach the top of your profession
If you become the leader of the land,
For murder is the sport of the elected,
And you don't need to lift a finger of your hand

Because it's murder by numbers, 1, 2, 3,
It's as easy to learn as your ABC.
Murder by numbers, 1, 2, 3,
It's as easy to learn as your A, B, C, D, E,..........

[Graybeard]

57. There are about 20 Army officers sitting behind Petraeus...

...why are they there? Don't they have jobs to do? How about picking up a rifle? How many of them does Petraeus need to wipe his ass?

[gateley]

61. To provide a visual to "instill patriotism" in us all? To be fair,

Patraeus and his crew DO hang out in Iraq - they're on the ground and not running it from Washington like Rumsfeld was.

[spanone]

53. the 'sons of iraq' who thinks up these names....jeeebus

[doublethink]

60. Yeah where did that one come from ........ Petraeus has said it a couple of times.

New propaganda buzz word. :eyes:

[spanone]

62. WTF??? cspan is cutting away....guess there's more important shit than war

[RepublicanElephant]

63. wtg congress. give c-span an excuse to cut away.

sheesh!

[spanone]

64. cspan cut away just as clinton began speaking hmmmm

[Ichingcarpenter]

67. I suggest a new thread with a C-Span 3 link

[gateley]

91. I think the magic number is around 100 posts -- I'm standing by! nt

[goclark]

68. She is on MSNBC and doing well

[gateley]

66. But Dodd is up on C-Span2 -- he's brining it home re: banking.

[Ichingcarpenter]

70. They are giving Clinton air time on TV now

[tishaLA]

69. Go Hillary!

[goclark]

73. Hillary is doing well

At lease she speaks for our side.

Wish she could keep it up and not talk anymore about "the experience" that McShame has.

If she did that much it would be so much better for all of us.

[Ichingcarpenter]

78. She is doing a good job......

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

71. I can't get back on to c-span!!!!!!!

[malta blue]

72. try npr

www.npr.org

That is where I went after CSPAN quit

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

77. Thank you! There!

[gateley]

75. Go to MSNBC.com or CNN.com -- it's not on Cspan anyway

[RepublicanElephant]

74. c-span back!

!

[gateley]

76. Is it ON Cspan? I thought they cut away.

[spanone]

79. they came back on......

[gateley]

81. I've been impressed when I've seen Clinton in hearings --

she sounds so tired, though. :(

[spanone]

82. she probably is....imagine running for that job!

she sounds like she's sleeping

[gateley]

83. I can't even fathom how candidates are able to speak a coherent sentence

at this point. But she's on top of it --

[NJSecularist]

80. Hillary is doing brilliant. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

89. "Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2973191

[Ichingcarpenter]

84. "We have to do Military Calculus in order to figure out if things are working"

Gen. Betrayus bullshited his answer to Clinton.



Now she is discussing southern Iraq.... She is doing a good job.

[spanone]

85. and he's still bullshitting

[pleah]

100. By the look on her face, she knows it!

She looked like she was very displeased with his answers.

[goclark]

107. Did he look like he cared that she cared

That's the problem.

Bushco is propping him up so he will get a free pass to keep on doing the dirt in Iraq.

[LSK]

86. not on CSPAN2 or CSPAN3????

:shrug:

[gateley]

88. Try cnn.com or msnbc.com --

[LSK]

its back on CSPAN1

[spanone]

87. 'dramatic and significant progress has been made' this asswipe is obviously not up for re-election

[gateley]

90. Is Lindsay Graham? He was AWFUL in his fawning.

[RepublicanElephant]

92. didn't martinez announce he wasn't running again?

too much dirty bush laundry.

[spanone]

93. here we go...the rockets are from iran

[Ichingcarpenter]

94. This hearing is just bullshit

It is just facetime, nobody has really said anything
that will end this war....... Nobody!

[gateley]

98. Last week's SFRC Iraq hearings were much more "satisfying" --

I hope they will be today, too.

I got the clear sense that "It's over - we're leaving - let's figure out how best to do it."

[Ichingcarpenter]

103. It has better Senators on that committee

Most on this committee are just crap. Levin has been a disappointment
sure he's anti-war, but he keeps giving these assholes what they want.

I hope you are right.

Senator Pryer is up now.

[gateley]

105. Boxer kicked ass --

and Biden and Kerry didn't pull any punches either. Others were similarly impressive.

[gateley]

95. "The rockets come from Iran". Uh oh. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

97. And Iraq had WMD and then buried them in Syria.......

:rofl:

[RepublicanElephant]

96. uh... i think those are OUR weapons they stole from those

unguarded munitions dumps in 2003.

"thank you, mr. boosh!"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

99. Bingo!!!!!!

[gateley]

101. Jesus we've fucked up EVERYTHING. (Unless we WANTED them to steal them..)

:tinfoilhat:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

102. Shrub did say that he wanted to create chaos out of order....

[gateley]

104. *****OFFICIAL PATRAEUS HEARING -- THREAD FOUR*********

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3124856&mesg_id=3124856

[dixiegrrrrl]

106. Did you know our troops "volunteered" for the wart???

Sen. Wicker ( Repub) repeating the meme that our troops are "volunteers" and willing to be in Iraq and just asked Betrayus to comment on why that is so.
So of course Betrayus is jumping on the idea and is speaking now on the wonderfullness of our all "volunteer" troops.

splutter splutter

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: