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Demonaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:46 AM Original message |
Liberals or Conservatives, Who's more giving? |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Warren Buffet is giving almost his whole fortune to charity. |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. I've seen figures that say conservatives give more money to charity. |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. wrong |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. the study is wrong, however |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. well |
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divinecommands (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. Selador... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
49. Yes, it does. So in some ways, it makes sense. nt |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Conservatives are only charitable if it gets them *something* |
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Beausoleil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. *someting* like a tax writeoff |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. as would most charitable giving |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. The Pubs like to play with numbers to make them look better..In this case |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. Note to conservatives |
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Demonaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. lol |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. I have known conservatives that were charitable... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. I know liberals that have cheated and lied |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yes |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Then you need to come to Rhode Island |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You sure they are real liberals? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Hard to imagine a more liberal, pro-union state |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. I've seen those figures, too, but I wonder WHAT KIND of charitable giving |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. well if you want to redefine charity |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. you HAVE to define it |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Well, it may be a wash, at best. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. The reason it is hard to believe |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. correct |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. That's because donations to church are counted |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. they also write off their kid's church-school tuition as "tithes", which is |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. The calculations that support that idea count things like |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. stating the truth |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. talk about playing with the facts |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. im not extrapolating anything |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. the data is bogus and it's been proven bogus year after year (edited to add link) |
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dembotoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. Could very well be true |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. Liberals are more giving to society in general, to those ulike themselves. |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. dembotoz has a good point |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. It'd be a lot easier to answer the question |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Funny |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. see my post above |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Thanks for the links |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. BTW - do you have a link? |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Here is a link to a recent article (see my post above for the debunking link) |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
31. Another point to make - blue states give and red states take |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. So I looked up the original paper |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. Ask your mailman when he collects canned food |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
37. The rich can easily afford charitable giving. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. the wealthiest states are blue states, though |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. A follow-up on the original study |
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undercutter2006 (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. I don't ever give to charity |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. wow |
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undercutter2006 (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. yeah |
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Jarn (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. See this for a good debunking |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
45. To hell with charity. The real question is 'who is fighting for social justice'? |
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