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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:31 PM
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American Refugees are flooding into Canada: Tens of thousands of Americans are now economic refugees
http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7246&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

American Refugees are flooding into Canada: Tens of thousands of Americans are now economic refugees

PEJ News - chycho - In September of 2007, the city of Windsor, which borders the United States, officially asked for financial assistance from Ottawa to deal with American refugees flooding into Canada. This is proving to be the tip of the iceberg, and only the first wave of economic refugees that have been created in the United States.


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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:37 PM
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1. Did you read the link? It's Mexican Refugees who are flooding into Canada.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:41 PM
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2. ooops! The author called them "american refugees" sheesh. Thanks
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:44 PM
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3. Mexico is in America. and looks like not all USAnians.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:47 PM
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5. Yes, but the it sounded like this was a result of the housing crisis & economic woes
the USA is going through right now.

What's happening in Canada right now is a completely different issue.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:45 PM
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4. So What's Your Point?

That those "Mexicans" aren't good red blooded Americans? Most of the refugees are Mexican (hardly all of them) so that means they really aren't American economic refugees?

Sounds like a touch of racism and indirect immigrant bashing to me.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:57 PM
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7. Stick your nasty comments where the sun don't shine. My point was that the article was not
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 07:07 PM by TheGoldenRule
what it sounded like to begin with.

FYI-The immigration problems started LONG before the current mortgage crisis and financial problems that are happening now.

The immigration problem hasn't been dealt with here in the USA or by Mexico more pointedly-which is their problem to begin with.

Now it's being foisted upon Canada, a small country that can ill afford the influx of people!


Those in charge of this country have fucked it up beyond all recognition.

And yes, I believe wholeheartedly that the people of this country should be taken care of first-before other people from OTHER countries.

Guess it's cool with you that citizens and legal residents of this country are now living in goddamn tents!!!

Well, that ain't cool with me!!! :puke:

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:35 PM
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12. So This To You Is A Problem?
I support all working class people in this country no matter where they may have come from. It's called class solidarity and I don't give a crap about the rich folks and corporate thieves that are destroying this country. We need to unite against those who are truly responsible for tent cities, the foreclosures, union busting and all other attacks on our rights and living standards.

Can we count on your help or do you think we ought to weed out and exclude millions of working class people who don't have government papers .... the so-called illegals and their children.

Thee ruling rich are trying to scapegoat so-called "illegal aliens" for the economic mess they have created. It looks like you're falling for the right-wing big business propaganda.

Want to end the illegal status of 12 million immigrants? I do. Legalize them now!

AMERICA'S FUTURE





THE RIGHT WING RESPONSE




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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:23 PM
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13. Corporations need to be held accountable and fined and punished big time.
But that's all I agree with you about.

If people want to immigrate to this country they need to go through the proper channels just like everyone else who wants to come here has to do. It's the only fair way. Otherwise you are favoring one group or country over another.

But you probably already know that.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 06:48 PM
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6. Edit, nevermind.
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 06:48 PM by TheWraith
I thought the OP was poking fun at the state of the US Dollar. :)
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:20 PM
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8. Going to Canada
Probably because they can't find work here. US citizens can't even find work here.
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reformedrethug Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:27 PM
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9. what makes you think
Canada will be any better?

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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:34 PM
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11. Not Sure...
How is the Canadian Economy/Employment?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 08:29 PM
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10. Anyone interested in understanding what is really going on in the world
should read this amazing essay by Subcomandante Marcos.

"From the American Rio Grande to the "European" Schengen space, a double contradictory tendency is confirmed. On one side the borders are closed officially to the migration of labor, on the other side entire branches of the economy oscillate between instability and flexibility, which are the most secure means of attracting a foreign labor force" (Alain Morice, Op. Cit.).

With different names, under a judicial differentiation, sharing an equality of misery, the migrants or refugees or displaced of all the world are "foreigners" who are tolerated or rejected. The nightmare of migration, whatever its causes, continues to roll and grow over the planet's surface. The number of people who are accounted for in the statistics of the UN High Commission on Refugees has grown disproportionately from some 2 million in 1975 to 27 million in 1995.

With national borders destroyed ( for merchandise) the globalized market organizes the global economy: research and design of goods and services, as well as their circulation and consumption are thought of in intercontinental terms. For each part of the capitalist process the "new world order" organizes the flow of the labor force, specialized or not, up to where it is necessary. Far from subject ing itself to the "free flow" so clucked-over by neoliberalism, the employment markets are each day determined more by migratory flows. Where skilled workers are concerned, whose numbers are not significance in the context of global migration, the "crossing of brains" represents a great deal in terms of economic power and knowledge. Nevertheless, whether skilled labor, or unskilled labor, the migratory politics of neoliberalism is oriented more towards destabilizing the global labor market than towards stopping immigration.

The Fourth World War, with its process of destruction/depopulation and reconstruction/reorganization provokes the displacement of millions of people. Their destiny is to continue to wander, with the nightmare at their side, and to offer to employed workers in different nations a threat to their employment stability, an enemy to hide the image of the boss, and a pretext for giving meaning to the racist nonsense promoted by neoliberalism./b]

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3849/marcos_7pieces.html
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