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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:04 PM
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Cheney pulls attention off Sy Hearst ?
Yesterday Sy talks about the urgency of Iran and the bush funding of terrorists and suddenly this is old news off the air waves as Cheney near bombing in Afghanistan . And the stock market plummets .

I find this a bit odd don't you ?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:08 PM
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1. surreal man, just .... surreal. ;) n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:10 PM
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2. you don't think those winter storms are just a *coincidence* do you???
I smell Karl Rove in that snow.....


:sarcasm:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:10 PM
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No
I don't find it odd. A Sy Hersch story wasn't going to be the lead story on the news no matter what happened.

As sure as the sun rises in the East, and as sure as Bush will say something stupid, every little thing that happens in the world is described as a "distraction" on DU.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:17 PM
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4. I doubt it. Hersch is too hard to follow. Americans don't like having to
look words up.

By the way, any news on Anna Nicole?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:37 PM
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5.  Shes rotting , that's all I know , pretty sick stuff .
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:44 PM
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6. dunno anything
about the Smith case beyond what some people have posted here. Not sure why you'd ask me.

But Hersch WAS just on MSNBC, so he's getting some coverage. But I still doubt very much that the administration would engineer a suicide bombing that kills dozens of people just to take attention off one print-story. And if they DID do it, it didn't work, since he was just on TV.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:13 PM
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13. I was replying to ben
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:58 PM
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10. He was easy to follow on Fresh Air this p.m.
You can listen to him at npr.org.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:15 PM
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16. ok we are talking about the same Cheney who had Hardball transcripts printed out
Did you forget that already????

:shrug:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 12:25 PM
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30. Huh?
I have no idea what you're talking about.

What's so suspicious about a Vice President reading transcripts of a news show?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:10 PM
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3. A lot of people who actually read Hersh are wondering now . . .
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 06:04 PM by patrice
Which sub-group delivered that bomb: the Taliban, al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, Salafis, Asbat al-Ansar, whatever the Pakistani CIA is called, or various sundry free-lancers. All of whom would have some reasons to place a shot across Cheney's bow as a signal to others, colleagues and competitors. We are, afterall, busy producing plenty of fodder for martydrom; it's a buyers market.
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:49 PM
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7. You forgot CIA
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:56 PM
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9. That's a possibility, I suppose.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 06:07 PM by patrice
Though not nearly as likely as the others.

And, I hope you'll pardon my saying, possibly, though not necessarily, a sign of a freeper.

Welcome to the DU! :hi:
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 12:21 PM
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29. Please tell me
How is my reference to cia involvement a sign of a f-er?
I think our gov is the cause of almost every ill happening.
What line did I cross?
thx
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:51 PM
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8. No. And If You Do, I Can't Help Thinking You Haven't Paid Enough Attention.
If you thought for a second that Sy Hersh would skyrocket into the MSM and be on all the airwaves with longevity and purpose, than you obviously haven't paid attention to the way the MSM works at all, with all due respect.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:11 PM
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11.  let me clarify
I don't watch MSM or any of the tv news for that matter . My wife turns on the damn tv and seaches for weather and then goes through the stations and this is all I get , just glimps of the crap on the news .

I did watch Hersh on Wolfs show and read the transcript .

No I don;t expect anything on the main stream media other than weeks of Anna or now this poor kidnapped boy sitting there in a state of shock .

I really just see the many topic headings here on DU that refer to Anna N or all the other tv hype . I don;t read them however .

I never expect the main stream media to ever be un-biased again , I know who owns them .

All I suspected on my own was that cheneys incident may have or rather has taken the focus off Hersh .

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:13 PM
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14. Ummmmm, Huh?
Forgive me for reading your post and finding it contradictory of itself. It failed to make any logical sense to me. I'm sorry.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:51 PM
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21.  Explain exactly what you are driving at here , Please
Lately I see you replying to some of my topics , no problem .

However what are you trying to say here ? I said I don;t expect MSM to run with the Sy Hersh story nore do I expect anyother tv news network to pick up on any important issue and run it daily or at all for that matter .

so what's the problem ?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:43 PM
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25. Seriously, You Don't See The Source Of Confusion?
Here you are stating in both replies that you wouldn't expect for a second for the MSM to have focused on it, yet at the same time we're debating your premise that the Cheney incident is the source of the stolen coverage. Do you not see why this might possibly come off as a bit confusing of an ideal?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:59 PM
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28.  It has dropped off even on liberal radio .
A few hosts bring it up however the cheney deal has become the topic of the forums and most other real news .

I am not all that surprised because each day something else blows in and takes the front seat .

I just feel there are sometimes connections . Most likey cheney had no intent of becoming a diversion . It's just a matter of issue priority for me .

Sure I can see how some may be confused by my topic but I think you got the point of the post .

What I don't really understand is why you had to bother replying at all . You voiced no opinion other than a personal one aimed at me .
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:21 PM
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17. OP is not a problem! ANY discussion of the important stuff is worthwhile.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 06:23 PM by patrice
Some people don't have anything better to do than criticize others. Don't let it hurt you.

Here's a link to Hersh's piece. It's not THAT hard to understand, though I did have to print it out and underline it in order to get a grip on it:
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/070305fa_fact_hersh

It's an **important** piece of research. General Pace just made remarks before the Senate appropriations committee about how a weak Iraqi government encourages the militias and YET Hersh has documented how the Redirection is intended to weaken the Shia, and ergo the Iraqi government, which will strengthen the militias.

You might listen to the npr/Fresh Air piece too. It contains stuff like 80% of our trooops' deaths in Iraq are inflicted by Sunni. And yet the Redirection is to make the Sunni's stronger.

There are many LTTEs in Hersh's article.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:47 PM
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27. Methinks You Missed The Point.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 08:48 PM by OPERATIONMINDCRIME
You are replying to the poster with an attitude as if I criticized the concept of Seymoure Hersh or the importance of the facts. If you paid attention, you'd realize that my comments were about the concept of Cheney being a catalyst for the coverage dropping off and the reality that regardless of Cheney or anything else the coverage still would've dropped off.

Now if you don't see that as truth and instead only want to pretend that I criticized something altogether different for sake of 'not having anything better to do', then I can't help ya. But that would be completely missing the point.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:44 PM
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19. I agree -- nothing is beyond these thugs
Whether Hersh's story leads the on some news shows or not, it still gets some play, and this makes it get less play. News management to mold the opinions of Americans in order to take attention off their crimes is one of the MAIN functions of this administration.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:55 PM
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23. His expose is inching it's way into the MSM.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=sy+hersh

This might be a first for the best investigative journalist in America.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:12 PM
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12. Who is Sy Hearst? any relation to the Hearst media empire?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:26 PM
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18. Just a typo. It's Seymour Hersh.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 06:26 PM by patrice
The Pulitzer (sp?) winning journalist for The New Yorker. See link above.

Oh . . . you were being funny, weren't you?

Oh well . . .
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:13 PM
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15. at this point, Id believe ANYTHING
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:49 PM
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20. and gas is above $2.50 today.....
Just wanted to point that out. It hurts my wallet :-)

Dapper
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:17 PM
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22. It's $2.25 at the Exxon station near where I live.
It's gone up sixteen cents in the last 3 days. Sheesh.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:08 PM
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24. As if Ana Nicole couldn't do that by herself?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:45 PM
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26. This is dumb, sorry.
In what world would Sy Hersh get more coverage than Anna Nicole Smith, Gore's house & the Oscars? The celebrity stories already push the serious stories off the airwaves.
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