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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:42 AM
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Was Spitzer Set Up: A Must Read from Harpers: IT LOOKS LIKE IT

prominent New York lawyer who has written for Harper's Magazine about the politically-motivated dismissals of US Attorneys in the Bush Justice Department says he believes there's a strong case that the fall of New York governor Eliot Spitzer was politically motivated.

Spitzer was caught on a federal wiretap discussing plans to meet a high-priced prostitute in Washington, D.C. The news was first reported Monday afternoon in The New York Times.

Later that day, however, ABC News' Brian Ross revealed that federal sources said the prosecution stemmed from an investigation of Spitzer's finances -- not from the prostitution ring.

"The suspicious financial activity was initially reported by a bank to the IRS which, under direction from the Justice Department, brought kin the FBI's Public Corruption Squad," Ross wrote.

"We had no interest at all in the prostitution ring until the thing with Spitzer led us to learn about it," a Justice Department official told Ross.

Tuesday's Times added: "The rendezvous that established Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s involvement with high-priced prostitutes occurred last month in one of Washington’s grandest hotels, but the criminal investigation that discovered the tryst began last year in a nondescript office building opposite a Dunkin’ Donuts on Long Island... There, in the Hauppauge offices of the Internal Revenue Service, investigators conducting a routine examination of suspicious financial transactions reported to them by banks found several unusual movements of cash involving the governor of New York, several officials said."

"Because the focus was a high-ranking government official, prosecutors were required to seek the approval of the United States attorney general to proceed," they added. "Once they secured that permission, the investigation moved forward."

Horton doesn't buy it.

"Note that this prosecution was managed with staffers from the Public Integrity Section at the Department of Justice," Horton writes on his blog, "No Comment." "This section is now at the center of a major scandal concerning politically directed prosecutions. During the Bush Administration, his Justice Department has opened 5.6 cases against Democrats for every one involving a Republican."

In his post at Harper's, Horton notes:

(1) The prosecutors handling the case came from the Public Integrity Section.

(2) The prosecution is opened under the White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910. You read that correctly. The statute itself is highly disreputable, and most of the high-profile cases brought under it were politically motivated and grossly abusive. Here are a few:

* Heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson was the first man prosecuted under the act — for having an affair with Lucille Cameron, whom he later married. The prosecution was manifestly an effort “to get” Johnson, who at the time was the most famous African-American. (All of this is developed well in Ken Burns’s film “Unforgiveable Blackness”

*University of Chicago sociologist William I. Thomas was prosecuted for having an affair with an officer’s wife in France. Thomas was targeted because of his Bohemian social and his radical political views.

* In 1944 Charles Chaplin was prosecuted for having an affair with actress Joan Barry. The prosecution again provided cover for a politically motivated effort to drive Chaplin out of the country.

* Canadian author Elizabeth Smart was arrested and charged in 1940 while crossing the border with the British poet George Barker.


(3) The resources dedicated to the case in terms of prosecutors and investigators are extraordinary.

(4) How the investigation got started. The Justice Department has yet to give a full account of why they were looking into Spitzer’s payments, and indeed the suggestion in the ABC account is that it didn’t have anything to do with a prostitution ring. The suggestion that this was driven by an IRS inquiry and involved a bank might heighten, rather than allay, concerns of a politically motivated prosecution.

"The answer of the Justice Department to all this is likely to be: Trust us," Horton concludes. "This has nothing to do with Spitzer’s guilt or innocence. But it has everything to do with the fading integrity of the Public Integrity Section."

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Lawyer_questions_whether_Spitzer_was_set_0311.html

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:42 AM
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1. Just like Bill Clinton was set up?
Where's Lucianne??
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:10 AM
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26. Just like Don Siegleman was set up by the very same people. Here is HORTON's article:
The Spitzer Sex Sting: A Few More Questions
Scott Horton - March 10, 2008 - http://harpers.org/archive/2008/03/hbc-90002589


It looks like the Bush Justice Department just bagged themselves another Democratic Governor. Here’s the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html)on the story:

Gov. Eliot Spitzer, who gained national prominence relentlessly pursuing Wall Street wrongdoing, has been caught on a federal wiretap arranging to meet with a high-priced prostitute at a Washington hotel last month, according to a law enforcement official and a person briefed on the investigation. ....


............

ABC News this evening offers a starkly different account of how the investigation got launched. According to ABC, the whole investigation of the prostitution ring itself was triggered by an investigation of Spitzer.

The federal investigation of a New York prostitution ring was triggered by Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s suspicious money transfers, initially leading agents to believe Spitzer was hiding bribes.....


... Spitzer—who was previously viewed as a rising star in the Democratic Party—is now damaged goods. Many had expected him to consolidate power in Albany, inching the Democrats towards control of the State Senate, and to rule as a powerful governor. He may or may not survive the initial shock waves of the scandal, but certainly no one now expects him to be a powerful force in the statehouse. ....

.....

there is a second tier of questions that needs to be examined with respect to the Spitzer case. They go to prosecutorial motivation and direction. Note that this prosecution was managed with staffers from the Public Integrity Section at the Department of Justice. This section is now at the center of a major scandal concerning politically directed prosecutions. During the Bush Administration, his Justice Department has opened 5.6 cases against Democrats for every one involving a Republican. Beyond this, a number of the cases seem to have been tied closely to election cycles. Indeed, a study of the cases out of Alabama shows clearly that even cases opened against Republicans are in fact only part of a broader pattern of going after Democrats. So here are the rather amazing facts that surface in the Spitzer case:

............ http://harpers.org/archive/2008/03/hbc-90002589 .......

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:43 AM
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2. Entirely possible. But the Feds do routinely watch large, mysterious transactions. It's...
part of a means to catch drug traffiking.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:14 AM
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15. The thing is, the feds weren't watching. The banks were
They reported the transactions to the feds.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:26 AM
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20. Any transaction of $5000 or more is reported to the Feds
Back in the days before DHS, it was $10,000, and had been since Nixon was in office.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:40 AM
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21. No, it's still $10,000
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:42 AM by Tempest
Unless the bank suspects the transaction is being made with dirty money. I don't see the bank thinking that for a transaction by a governor.

http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=112228,00.html
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:42 AM
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22. No it's not. Read the other parts of that (SAR).
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:31 AM
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28. That depends upon the bankers involved.
From your link - note this section:

An Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) is Filed on transactions or attempted transactions involving at least $5,000 that the financial institution knows, suspects, or has reason to suspect the money was derived from illegal activities.... All it takes is one Republican teller and a $6,000 transaction to "alert" the feds. ;)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:31 AM
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27. That's what they have to do. nt
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:43 AM
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3. It won't matter
people just can't connect because he is guilty.

Someone should let Congress know that they're next.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:07 PM
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32. I'm laughing because it's true
and they know it
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:45 AM
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4. Spitzer has been advocating these types of investigations his whole life
This is how he fought the war on drugs.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:48 AM
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5. Two Questions:
1.) How much "suspicious cash" instigated this investigation?

2.) How many other like movements of cash receive the attention of the Justice Department?
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:49 AM
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6. If he was set up -
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 09:53 AM by Old Broad
you can bet your ass that Joe Bruno was behind it.

Bruno feels that he is the alpha male in NY politics and Spitzer wouldn't kiss his ass.
They have been at one another's throats from day one.

Spitzer is a hypocritical jackass though. He built his reputation on the persona of
a sheriff who rides into town to clean up the scum. Now it turns out he is one of them.


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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:52 AM
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7. That was my take in it
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:52 AM
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8. I don't know about the "setup", but I DO think the AG will be a LOT
hharder on Elliott BECAUSE he's a Dem. Governor than they would be if he were a PUB! Similar to the case of the former Gov. of Alabama.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:54 AM
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9. All true and yet...
This kind of thing will go on forever - it will happen again and again - until Americans grow up about sex among consenting adults (and stop criminalizing prostitution). It's a fact of politics that the leverage for blackmail exists in sex, but not really in corruption, which is mostly legal (it's called "lobbying" and "campaign finance"). Things need to finally be the other way around, but what are you going to do as long as the puritanism and hypocrisy are enshrined? One of the pillars of political corruption in this country is the fact that almost any politician can be blackmailed or destroyed if they are sexually adventurous, subject to temptation, or, in fact, merely homosexual.

Someone has to finally lead the way by announcing that private affairs are no one's business and by not engaging in the rote ritual of contrition. But it's not going to be Spitzer, because by the law he broke the law. His whole career is about being Mr. Law and Order, and he has himself conducted prosecutions of whorehouses (let's get away from the euphemisms here). I bet he's even indicted clients of whorehouses.

Let's see who this Patterson fellow is.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:55 AM
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10. EVERYTHING is politically motivated these days.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:56 AM
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11. Wow, the AG sure can move fast
...when a partisan WH stooge isn't involved.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:57 AM
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12. Did someone force him to have sex with a prostitute?
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:57 AM
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13. I think they knew his preferences and habits
and then possibly baited him but no one forced him to make the call or pay this woman.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:59 AM
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14. Spitzer was a big fish - this is a MESSAGE to the entire dem party

Spitzer has done some AMAZING work against corruption, THAT is why he is the target.

He was being ENORMOUSLY stupid, he is smart enough to realize the feds would be using their dragnet PRECISELY to catch this type of behavior (or ANY behavior that would bring him down).

This is a MESSAGE to every dem politician in the nation.

And, it should send chills down the spine of every American.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:18 AM
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16. Unless Spitzer was coerced into making the bank transfers
And engage in an illegal activity (prostitution), he did this to himself.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:22 AM
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17. My motto for the day: Spitzer's being a schmuck made him a perfect target for a takedown.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 10:48 AM by BurtWorm
Sometimes when they go on a fishing expedition, they actually catch the fish they're after.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:25 AM
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18. Metaphor of the day: Live by the sword; die by the sword.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:26 AM
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19. You don't know much about CTR/SAR, do you?
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:51 AM
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23. The White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910
"The Spitzer Sex Sting: A Few More Questions" by Scott Horton (Harper's Magazine)
So here are the rather amazing facts that surface in the Spitzer case:

(1) The prosecutors handling the case came from the Public Integrity Section.

(2) The prosecution is opened under the White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910. You read that correctly. The statute itself is highly disreputable, and most of the high-profile cases brought under it were politically motivated and grossly abusive. Here are a few:

*

Heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson was the first man prosecuted under the act — for having an affair with Lucille Cameron, whom he later married. The prosecution was manifestly an effort “to get” Johnson, who at the time was the most famous African-American. (All of this is developed well in Ken Burns’s film “Unforgiveable Blackness”).
*

University of Chicago sociologist William I. Thomas was prosecuted for having an affair with an officer’s wife in France. Thomas was targeted because of his Bohemian social and his radical political views.
*

In 1944 Charles Chaplin was prosecuted for having an affair with actress Joan Barry. The prosecution again provided cover for a politically motivated effort to drive Chaplin out of the country.
*

Canadian author Elizabeth Smart was arrested and charged in 1940 while crossing the border with the British poet George Barker..

Attytood: Their ding-a-lings: Chuck Berry, Eliot Spitzer and the bizarre history of the Mann Act
Attytood: He's da Mann! Today's open thread
YouTube - Jack Johnson: The Unforgivable Blackness 1 Part 1/15
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:52 AM
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24. So, how do we resolve it if it can be proven that he was targeted, whenhe definitely
did something wrong?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:58 AM
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25. Spitzer had to know the GOP was gunning for him. Why give them the ammo himself? nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:33 AM
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29. Exactly. I don't care a hoot about his so called "morals" but he's too stupid to be Governor
under the circumstances.

Clue for those in political office "keep your nose clean" while you're on the tax payer dole, huh?
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:57 PM
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30. Vote for set up
How can someone who uses the very tools be caught in them by their own actions.
or
He has turned into a teenager with too much testosterone and thereby making his decisions with the organ below the belt. As some would say men go through middle age stuff too.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:58 PM
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31. Unless he set himself up...no.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:10 AM
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33. the bank tale is a slim cover story to hide how they really found out
via wholesale wiretapping of him and other democrats.
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