Why do so many refer to Sen Clinton by her first name, but all

[Obamanaut]

the males by their last? We rarely if ever read anything about 'John' (Kerry, Edwards, McCain, et al) or Dennis or Mitt.

And, why is it permitted to refer to her as 'girl', but one cannot mention any male names in the same sentence as 'boy'? One poster a couple of weeks ago (in GD: P) said something about Pres Clinton similar to 'the boy didn't know what hit him' and was chastised by multiple respondents.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Because there are two Clintons of prominence.

Senators Feinstein and Boxer are not referred to as Diane and Barbara.

[TheDebbieDee]

10. There's a Sen. Barbara Feinstein?

[Buzz Clik]

25. I edited my response.

[grassfed]

2. selfdelete

[TheDebbieDee]

24. That's bull$hit! I'm African-American and I support

Sen. Clinton. And I have no urge to call Sen. Obama, "boy". Stop using that broad brush of yours to paint Clinton supporters.

[grassfed]

31. selfdelete

[Buzz Clik]

41. Nice call on the self delete.

:thumbsup:

[xultar]

34. ...

[JPZenger]

3. All her signs say Hillary, all his say Obama

I refer to the candidates by the names they use for themselves. All of Hillary's signs say "Hillary" and all of Obama's signs say "Obama."

[frazzled]

23. Actually, no: his signs say "Change We Can Believe In"

At least at his rallies. I have looked on tv at at least a dozen such rallies, and I am always interested that there is never a single "Obama" sign in the house, that I can see. It is clearly a decision his campaign has made to distribute the "Change" signs rather than ones with his name. It's the message they want to impart, I assume: this is not about the man but the idea.

[Buzz Clik]

28. Oh. Like these:

Yeah, there are all kinds of signs, but the one's with his name tend to say "Obama".

[rocktivity]

4. I do it to ensure that people know I'm talking about HER.

There IS more than one Clinton in Dem politics, you know!

:P
rocknation

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. In fairness, she does put "Hillary" on all her campaign material

And has referred to herself as a "girl" on more than one occasion. That said, your point is valid and I try not to use her first name unless I also refer to the male by his.

[NightWatcher]

14. like this?

[NightWatcher]

6. they call Hillary Clinton "Hillary" because there are two prominent Clintons

there is only one big Obama in the spotlight. Also the term "boy" would be a huge racial insult to Obama.

[John Q. Citizen]

7. Have you ever gone to her website? I suggest you do, You will be able to answer your own questions

[Moondog]

8. Perhaps it is the Hillary! bumper stickers she used in one of her Senatorial

campaigns. Which seem to be something of an invitation to refer to her as Hillary, with or without the exclamation point.

[high density]

9. Her signs/buttons/hats say Hillary

It's her own branding.

[Fenris]

11. 1. There are two Clintons

2. All of her campaign signs say "Hillary." If she had a problem with it, I'm assuming she wouldn't have used her first name as her campaign logo.

[bryant69]

12. Because she is a girl of course

I try to be careful about this myself, but it does seem more natural to call her Hillary; I suspect in part because she is a girl and in part because Clinton makes me think about Bill not Hillary. Saying Hillary is a way to distinguish her from Bill. But both of those are pretty poor excuses.

Obama throws me as well, because it feels like a first name, even though of course it isn't.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Burma Jones]

13. Senator Clinton makes much use of her first name in her campaign materials

As in HILLARY!!!

and I wouldn't use the word girl in reference to the Senator, unless we're talking about her childhood......

[frazzled]

15. Because she does: look at all her signs; it was her decision

This is something we talked about at the beginning of the race: she decided to run as Hillary, not as Clinton (for obvious reasons).

It's something that's bothered me, as a feminist--but it is something SHE did.

I have found it striking to compare her rallies with Obama's: she's chosen to have people hold up signs that say "Hillary."
He's chosen to have people hold up signs that do not have his name on them at all, but say "Change You Can Believe In."

I think that's very interesting, and worthy at least of some analysis.

[uppityperson]

16. This has bothered me and I've asked the same question.

I refer to her as Sen.Clinton to differentiate from the ex pres clinton. She refers to herself as that, but still I prefer to keep it equal, using both last names. But then I'm an uppity person who is intolerant of most "isms".

[eleny]

17. Remember that Rudy G. is usually "Rudy"

So it's not a gender issue that I have observed.

[JackintheGreen]

18. It's a conscious choice by her campaign

Her signs say "Hillary for President." The text on her site refers to her by her first name. It seems an effort to separate here from Bill, or simply to avoid conclusion in the press, e.g. "Clinton said today..." Which Clinton? Bill or Hillary? Both campaign pretty hard for her.

Most journalists, when asked, agree that it's been her choice to be called by her first name.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. It's because of my deep seated hatred of women.

[ronnykmarshall]

20. Hillary wants to be addressed by her first name.

That's why her bumper stickers, buttons, signs all say "Hillary" on them.

[Selatius]

21. Because Hillary Clinton advertised her first name in her campaigns.

There are two Clintons, and she wants people to know she isn't another Bill Clinton.

[Selatius]

22. Deleted. Duplicate. n/t

[katsy]

26. Easy.

Senator Clinton's website: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/splash/

Senator Obama's website: http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/semr?source=SEM-register-yahoo-obama-search

Look at the logos. Senator Clinton also referred to herself as the voter's "girl" in one of her events.

I'm voting (D) no matter who our candidate is and have not intentionally slammed either candidate.

[BattyDem]

27. Visit her website

Her campaign is called "Hillary for President"

[democrat2thecore]

29. What do her campaign signs say? "HILLARY" For President -nt

[Fresh_Start]

30. ask Senator Clinton why

her campaign uses "Hillary for President" instead of Clinton for President.

[Jersey Devil]

32. She refers to herself by her first name only all the time

What are you talking about?

"Hillary for President" is on everything from her website to bumper stickers

[VeraAgnes]

33. We already coined

Clinton with President Bill Clinton in the early 90's ...he was the first essentially. Calling Senator Clinton by her very familiar first name Hillary has evolved in our trendy society , so actally it is a great compliment in the eyes of many to be world famous by only one name; Ghandi, Ceasar, Cleopatra..:)

[eFriendly]

35. Actually, Hillary Clinton referred to her own self as "girl" several months back

"So if you want a winner who knows how to take them on, I'm your girl."

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=6361

So she basically opened the door for anyone else to use that phrase in reference to her from there-on-out.

[stillcool]

36. Because of her Campaign?

Hillary 08?

[rucky]

37. Have you seen her bumper stickers? n/t

[walldude]

38. It's a conspiracy!!!!! Actually it's how she identifies herself

in her campaign. Obama's signs say Obama, Hillary's signs say Hillary. Maybe you ought to complain to her...

[WinkyDink]

39. To avoid confusion, at the beginning. Now, habit.

[Buzz Clik]

40. Click on her homepage link, and this is what you see:

You really need to take this up with her.

[shraby]

42. Where I come from the men are quite often

referred to by their last names. Then if I happen to be introduced to one of them its by their first name. Confusing. I never could figure this out.

[applegrove]

43. She has put Hillary on her campaign signs so that is why it has stuck. Her choice.

[JackRiddler]

44. I don't call her by her first name, but if you're wondering...

Maybe you should take a look at her campaign posters.



The graphic is from http://hillary.org. You should complain to whoever owns that site.

[SaveAmerica]

45. The same reason I say Dubya and not Bush, already was one, let's

not make mountains out of molehills.

[JerseygirlCT]

46. I think the reason may be b/c it's easiest to just use the first

name to differentiate, as her husband is also fairly well known.

But the "girl" stuff or "boy" stuff? I haven't seen it myself, but I'd think that's sort of weird when referring to adults in either case.

[LWolf]

47. Dennis Kucinich is often just "Dennis." n/t

[BelgianMadCow]

48. Not many Hillaries. So much Johns...

[Crunchy Frog]

49. Her own campaign refers to her by her first name.

I guess you could ask them.