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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:14 PM
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I just kicked Neal Boortz's ass on his own show!!! Now THAT felt good.
Long story short, I just pointed out that Boortz was dead wrong about global warming. I used a proven rhetorical trick: MATHEMATICS.

Details available at http://newsprism.wordpress.com">NewsprismBlog

Here's the blog post that led to Neal being one-upped on his own damn show:


Talk radio blowhard Neal Boortz has sunk to a new low, mirroring the sinking ocean floor. But his "logic" reveals much about global warming skeptics in the right wing spin machine.

Boortz's web site leads today with a http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSL0636899020080306?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true">Reuters story about a study based on computer models that say sea levels are dropping and have been for 80 million years. Here's a quote from the journal Science as reported by Reuters:

Sea levels are set to fall over millions of years, making the current rise blamed on climate change a brief interruption of an ancient geological trend, scientists said on Thursday.


Later the Reuters article puts that prediction on falling sea levels into perspective:

Still, the projected rate of fall works out at 0.015 centimeters a century -- irrelevant when the U.N. Climate Panel estimates that seas will rise by 18-59 cms by 2100 because of global warming stoked by human use of fossil fuels.

"Compared to what is expected due to climate change, the fall is negligible," said Steinberger. Cities from Miami to Shanghai are threatened by rising seas that could also swamp low-lying island nations in the Pacific.


In other words, the liklihood of sea levels rising due to human activities (literally) swamps the imperceptible drops predicted in the Science article.

Now here's how Boortz reports on the issue:

A new report in the journal Science concludes that sea levels are going to fall over millions of year. This makes the current rise in sea levels (blamed on global warming) a "brief interruption" of an ancient geological trend. In the big picture – which global warmers can't seem to grasp – the oceans are getting deeper.


Okay, Neal. If sea levels drop 120 meters over the next 80 million years, as the study predicts, we don't have to worry about rises of half a meter in the next century. Do the math: a drop of .00015 meters versus a rise of .5 meters over the next century, a mere 3333-fold difference!

Those people living on http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/03/asia/pacific.php">low-lying islands in the Pacific just have to wait a few million years, and their homes will be back on dry land. Lovely.

"Big picture?" Boortz either has no clue about the big picture, or he'd take any chance, however asinine, to trash global climate change theory.

Besides, Neal, if computer models can't be trusted to predict climate in the near term, as you've said repeatedly, why are you so uncritical in buying what they say about ocean levels over a span of 160 million years?

Boortz couldn't care less about the potential consequences of global climate change. The issue is nothing but a political football in his mind.

I'd call that just plain evil.

http://www.newsprism.com">Newsprism

By the way, it's 10:30 am, and as I write, Boortz is replaying audio of a 10-year-old boy and ridiculing the child's country accent. I can't make this up...Boortz is ridiculing a 10-year-old boy on a national radio program (Boortz: "He sounds as dumb as a stump.") He's ten years old, Neal.

Why don't you go back to trashing http://newsprism.wordpress.com/2008/03/04/shut-up-and-talk-radio/">13-year-old girls?

Update---I just spoke with Neal on air. I laid out the math of his "argument" as clearly as possible, and his response was, "I lost you at 'Hey Neal.'"

That doesn't surprise me at all. People like Neal have the ability to turn their brains off when their beliefs are questioned. That's the coward's way to avoid cognitive dissonance AND intellectual growth.

The last time I spoke with Neal, I called in to accept his challenge to prove that FoxNews's coverage has a conservative bias (not even FoxNews denies that, btw.) After a single sentence left my mouth, Neal hung up on me, called me a "jerk," and asked, "Is that all you bring to the table intellectually?"

Neal, thanks for the free advertising...the last time I plugged a website on your show, RealStupidNews.com, you committed slander, saying "It's about marijuana, isn't it?" Not even close---but the truth means nothing to you.

In fact, Boortz read two of my news satire stories on his show (without attributing them to me, btw.) They were good enough to add some humor to his show, but not good enough for him to give me due credit (can you say, "copyright infringement?")

The truth will make you mad---and so will Neal Boortz's mendacity.

Update #2---this blog is kicking the crap out of the blog plugged on Boortz's show and website!

That's right--the blog of Boortz's on-air colleague Jamie Dupree is floundering. Our blogs started at exactly the same time, just over three weeks ago, and despite being plugged on air and on the Boortz website, Jamie's is lagging well behind mine. Be kind, folks, and take a peek: Jamie Dupree's WSB blog.

And a challenge---Neal, I just accused you of slander, copyright infringement, and picking on children. If I'm lying, SUE ME. Otherwise, bite me.

http://newsprism.wordpress.com">NewsprismBlog
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:19 PM
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1. Is he sympathetic to Creationism being taught in school classrooms too?
I think trying to hold up a study spanning 160,000,000 years would pretty much throw a 6,000 year old universe out the window.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:21 PM
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2. Good point. But Boortz hates fundies, I'm afraid.
He's an asshole, not an idiot.
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ReformedChris Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:26 PM
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3. Kicking his Ass? Are you sure it wasn't that bald mellon of a head?
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:27 PM by ReformedChris
Great job nailing Boortz. He is quite the liberal hater but he does lean libertarian on many issues. He does pound the fundies unlike his contemporaries who suck up to the idiots in that movement.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:31 PM
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4. Ass...head...with Boortz, what's the difference? n/t
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:59 PM
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5. DUers are meeting in Boortz country tomorrow--Hello, ATL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2971379&mesg_id=2971379">Here's your invitation.

More on the story about Boortz: the child he trashed was the son of Gordon Welch of Welch's Tire Shop in Lula, GA. (I don't want to publish the child's name.)

Boortz also ridiculed people who work in fields like auto repair, fishing, and worm farming, as if he's so high and mighty compared to the workers of this country. A caller called the show this morning to criticize Boortz for ridiculing this child, and Neal went off, saying (paraphrased), "Go back to whatever peanut-earning job you do..." Ooooooooooh, Boortz is rich--and that makes him better than those who aren't.

Boortz is an asshole, plain and simple.

http://newsprism.wordpress.com">NewsprismBlog
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:12 PM
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6. HA! Reminds of that "poo poo lady" plugging her ears when Randi Rhodes stated facts.
The lady PLUGGED HER EARS and started chanting, "la-la-lalala",...:rofl:

I suppose that's what makes RW talk shows so attractive to these people: they can just turn you off, at will.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:17 PM
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7. Tell me about it. Hannity called a web site of mine a "drug web site" on his show
then refused to correct the error when I called him on it repeatedly. These guys are bullies, and they deserve to be held accountable.

btw, I called Hannity to argue in favor of legalizing pot...that's all the "evidence" he had that my web site was a "drug web site."

And it gets better...Boortz trashed a little boy this morning for having a country accent. I'm in touch with local media, who will almost surely be interested in holding Boortz's feet to the fire on this one!!!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:26 PM
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8. On a serious note, they DO remind me of the "hate radio" during the Rwanda violence.
I agree that they should be held responsible for promoting bigotry, bullying, discrimination and violence. HATE speech negatively impacts the public interest and safety. Free speech ZONES have been allowed on the basis of public interest and safety. HATE speech should be monitored for the same reason as an activity that can be legally regulated on the same basis.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:40 AM
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:25 AM
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10. IBTS
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:30 AM
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11. One night of snow does not a non problem make.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 02:32 AM by MrsGrumpy
But, bundle up...

It was 59 degrees here in SE Michigan on January 17th.

Oh yeah, welcome to DU.

Oh, and you forgot a link (we do those here):

http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/02/twelvemonth_long_drop_in_world.php

Just so everyone can see where you're coming from. No pun intended. :hi:
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:40 AM
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12. .
:popcorn:
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Thurston Howell III Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:42 AM
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14. Pass me some of that.
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Thurston Howell III Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:42 AM
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13. Shouldn't you be in Iraq right now? If you are not then you should
sign up.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:56 AM
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16. Enjoy your stay. And would you like anchovies on your pizza? n/t
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:46 AM
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17. This is from the GISS
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 05:46 AM by tkmorris


It would seem dear sir, that you are an idiot.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:28 AM
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18. You can still hear Big Oil's argument repeated a lot these days.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:25 AM
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19. what a ridiculous claim - that "people" now blame divorce on global warming...
I challenge you (if you are still here) to post a link showing where "people" (what people) link divorce to climate change. Maybe a crackpot or a plant - so let us read it and see how widespread that claim is - as you imply in your post. Doubt you can, and that it is more of the rhetorical rightwing radio tactic of making up an absurd claim based on nothing, and try to discredit others based on the absurd claim (as if the absurd claim were truth).

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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:50 AM
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15. Egads! The excuses for humanity who post comments on your blog --
You are far more patient with those simpletons than I could ever be.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 09:03 PM
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20. I learned that patience here at DU
after being kicked off three times!
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