Without Being Political Can Someone Tell Me Who Won What Yesterday?

[ThomWV]

Every morning I turn C-Span's Washington Journal on when I get up. That means I usually see the show from its 7:00am beginning. This morning there's been a good bit of discussion about yesterday's primaries. So I know Senator Clinton was successful in Ohio, and I congratulate her for it. What I have not heard was anything, and I mean not a single word, about what happened in Texas. Early yesterday evening Senator Obama was in the lead, and I congratulate him for it.

Oh, and of course I know I could just go to CNN and look, but I'd far prefer to hear it from you all. I'll get more interesting versions of what happened here than I could ever get elsewhere.

[Nitrogenica]

1. The Democrats won. The turnout was huge, although somewhat

tainted by Rush Limpballs and his army of dittoheads.

[tekisui]

5. They were only 9%. Up from 7% in the earlier states. Not significant.

Obama and Hillary split the puke vote, down the middle.

[ThomWV]

6. You know, I don't think it is the Republican vote they're splitting, I think its returning Democrats

Could be right, could be wrong, 50/50 chance.

[tekisui]

8. I tend to think you're right.

I welcome them back with open arms.

[ThomWV]

9. Think about what that means for the upcomming election

There are some serious implications if it is true.

[madokie]

13. yep used to be democrats that the republican party shit on and lied too

it doesn't say much for them that they could be enticed to follow a failed policy such as compassionate conservatism to begin with but I'll welcome them back but I will be keeping an eye on them.

[Virginia Dare]

2. I don't know as much about Texas..

but it looks like women turned out overwhemingly for Hillary in Ohio. That's what put her over the top there.

[KharmaTrain]

3. The News Networks

You watched, they got the ratings and now will turn it into profits. But then they always win these things.

[C_U_L8R]

4. it looks like Hillary won A delegate.

At that rate, it might be some time until she catches up.
But I do like the thought of her as VP.
So relieved she offered up the shared ticket idea on TV today.

[tekisui]

7. Texas Primary went to Hillary 51-48

THey will essentially split those delegates. Obama won the Texas Caucus, and will pick up a few delegates there.

The math didn't change much, but Hillary has a real claim that she is still in it.

She got over a million votes in Texas and Ohio. Mostly a perceptive win for Hillary.

[ThomWV]

10. Thanks!

So it moves on to the next states, what of them as are left.

Personally, and maybe this is too political, but it wouldn't bother me a single bit if it were to go to a brokered Convention and that someone else might come up as the Nominee. We have a lot of talent in the Party, some of whom I think might be better suited to serve that the two candidates we have left in the race.

[malaise]

12. Oh yes

like Al Gore.

[ThomWV]

14. He is one, there are others

Al has come to disappoint to be quite honest about it. I don't mind that he finally cashed in on the money, I didn't even mind that he was becomming a one-trick-pony with the Global Warming. What finally got me to drop him was his constant refusal to put himself out of the race with those sly hints that he was still considering a run when in fact he apparently had no such intention. Just stringing us along, and it finally pissed me off.

There are others out there who are interested in the job and are very well qualified. Most were already in the race and dropped out, Richardson, Biden, Edwards just to name three. Immagine Feingold.

[swag]

11. Decent run-down here:

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4344

"Looks like Clinton will net about 10-15 delegates tonight, along with about 250,000 popular votes. Overall, Obama will now lead by about 600,000 votes, and 145-150 pledged delegates. Toss in superdelegates, and Obama's lead cut to about 100-110 delegates. Add in Florida, and Obama leads by about 300,000 votes, and about 65-70 delegates. Throw in a Michigan delegate with zero votes for Obama, and Clinton takes an infinitesimal lead in both counts.


This is why Obama is still the favorite. In order to even force a virtual tie, Clinton needs three contingencies to break her way. Obama, by contrast, will probably wipe out Clinton's March 4th delegate gains in Wyoming (March 8th) and Mississippi (March 11th), leaving the pledged delegate margin heading into Pennsylvania identical to the margin before yesterday's contests. However, overall March will still be a victory for Obama, as he continues to cut into Clinton's superdelegate lead. Rumors are that many more are on the way, too. Overall, despite her wins tonight, at the end of March, Clinton will probably be further behind in delegates than at the start of the month."

[Tarc]

15. Clinton won 3 of 4 and stopped Obama's momentum

and showed that he is unable to respond effectively to criticism (3am ad) and controversy (NAFTA memo).

[lonestarnot]

16. Nutshell!

[stewert]

17. Tarc

Clinton won 3 of 4 and stopped Obama's momentum and showed that he is unable to respond effectively to criticism and controversy.

That's not being political?

All she did was win 2 states, one by 4 points, and one by 10 points. But they split the delegates and Obama is still ahead by 130 delegates.

All her win in Texas and Ohio did was keep her in the race, if she had lost one or both she would have been done.

Basically yesterday changed nothing. Obama is still ahead by 130 in the delegate count, and he will most likely stay ahead until all the primaries are over. Then the superdelegates will vote for him and give him the nomination.

Hillary would have to win something like 65% of the remaining delegates to overtake Obama, which is virtually impossible. And after the last primary he will have more delegates, so the superdelegates will have to vote for him so they do not over-ride the will of the people.

I like Hillary and Obama, and I am not one of these Hillary haters. But if you take politics out of it, it looks impossible for Hillary to end up with more delegates after the last primary.

So all she did yesterday was keep herself in the race, but in the big picture she is still losing in delegates, in money, and the popular vote.

Which means Obama is most likely going to win the Nomination, but if by some miracle Hillary ends up with more delegates after the last primary she will win it. The problem is the numbers show it will almost be impossible.

[LSK]

18. Look at this site for results

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2008/by_state/US_Page_0304_VD.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS

Its linked off the CSPAN home page.