Live On C-Span, Chairman of JCS Confirms Kerry's View Of Iraq

[ThomWV]

John Kerry said it should be the goal of US forces to reduce terrorism to the point where it represented insignificant events that would hardly make the news. Republicans ridiculed him for saying it.

General Raymond Odierno, former Commander of multi national forces in Iraq confirms that we now have al quida (sp?) to the point where they are insignificant lawbreakers and no military threat.

[karynnj]

1. I really think the Democrats should have all continued using Kerry's words

as their view and continued saying it even after he lost, making their common view. In addition to being corect, it is infinitely more hopeful and positive than the Republican view that it will forever be a black cloud hanging over us. In 2004, too many people were still too traumatized to break away from fear and accept that we could move, as other countries historically have, to that point. (Think Ireland or Spain (Basques) etc)

Kerry was there before anyone - likely because he had already worked on these ideas for a decade - and in his book, "The New War" spoke of globalized crime - including non-state terrorism, which he saw as a subset of this - and what the world had to do. The international drug rings and the Russian MAFIA were covered. (Sad, that given that Bill Clinton didn't mention it when describing Kerry's achievements when discussing the 1996 race.)

Had we continued pushing that idea - it would have helped when people like George Will said Kerry was right in 2006 - it would have backed the Democratic policy. We would have gone a long way by now in at least neutralizing the issue by now. I wonder if it was a case where it is likely the Clintons didn't want to give Kerry credit for anything because they feared he would be in the race in 2008.

[YvonneCa]

3. I wish they had done that, too. n/t

[YvonneCa]

2. John Kerry once asked...

..."Where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership?" (1971)

The current leaders of this country are not in the White House. :) Senator Kerry is a true leader.

Thanks, Senator Kerry!:patriot:

[karynnj]

4. That is so true - I am forever amazaed at the graceful way he has continued

to keep fighting for the things he knows are right. He is as good a person as he is brilliant. It is sad that he ran in a year when people were too scared to see how good a President he could have been - in the words of this year - he offered both transformational change and experience. At least as much change as Obama and far more real experience than HRC.

[YvonneCa]

7. I could not have...

...said it better, karynnj.

[blm]

5. Yet, most news media mocked Kerry for that view along with the RNC ads. Most Dem bignames

sided with Bush's view of how to deal with terrorism.


Gee - why would any Dem side with Bush when it was wellknown in DC that John Kerry had the longest and toughest record of any lawmaker in the tracking of terror networks and their funding operations?

[karynnj]

6. You wonder what would have happened had clinton pursued the leads

that Kerry and his committee worked so hard to raise. Kerry's "New War" book is scary in its discriptions of countries that international criminals controls - either directly or indirectly. With the cold war over, imagine what would have been had Clinton used his abilities to lead an effort to deprive international crime rings, including both drug and terrorist groups.

[blm]

9. Yep - I wish this nation had kept Bush1 in 92 so he could be impeached with ALL of his

illegal operations revealed - and then have Kerry run in 1996. Kerry/Gore would have secured the nation, the world, and charted the right course for the environment. No 9-11. No War on Terror.

[YvonneCa]

8. We both know the answer to that...

...right? He might have actually worked to solve these problems. :)

[blm]

10. Yep - there would have been no growing global terror movement - fully exposed it

would lose all credibility in nations and with people all over the world.