Well, Praise the lord!

[underpants]

Joel, left, and Victoria Osteen, pastors of Lakewood Church, with their son, Jonathan Osteen, 13, between them, stand alongside former President Bill Clinton and his daughter, Chelsea Clinton, right, as they attend early services, Sunday, March 2, 2008, at Lakewood Church, Texas.
(AP Photo/Houston Chronicle, Steve Ueckert)

[leftofcool]

1. And?

I am not a Christian but I find nothing wrong with those who are attending their church or any church that espouses their beliefs.

[Deep13]

4. Yeah, but Osteen is one of those mega-church charlatans.

He's in the same mold as Jimmy Swagart and the rest of them.

[leftofcool]

13. And this has what to do with worship?

You are assuming that because Olstein is a charlatan, and I agree, that everyone who attends his church is not sincere in their Christian beliefs.

[Deep13]

14. No. I don't care if they are sincere or not.

What concerns me is that by being there, Bill Clinton is adding to Osteen's legitimacy. Gee, I had my doubts, but if someone like Bill Clinton goes there, it is probably okay.

[leftofcool]

16. Olstein sells snake oil

but, Bill Clinton is only one person and no one person can make the seller of the snake oil legitimate but you can believe in the snake oil itself.

Left of Cool

[long_green]

15. I believe Swaggart was affiliated with the Assembly of God

churches which was run of the mill evangelical Christian. At least it was run of the mill something. Osteen and ilk are more like Christian flavored self-help gurus.

[leftofcool]

17. Yes he was

and that does not mean all who attend his brand of church are bad in the same way those who attend the guru church are not bad. They are just buying the snake oil.

[Deep13]

2. Jesus Christ, Bill, what the fuck?

x(

[spanone]

3. praise the lord and pass the votes

[underpants]

6. Yep

and there is nothing wrong with that... I guess.

I just thought it was an interesting shot. Honestly.

[spanone]

9. well, at least it's not john hagee

[underpants]

10. That's setting the bar REALLY low

it is also not Marvin Olansky (W's spritual adviser-look HIM up)

[leftofthedial]

5. Osteen is a conman POS

ferfucksake

[Deep13]

7. I'm afraid I have to agree.

But now he can say that even a former president attended his Church Inc. Damn.

[Lance_Boyle]

8. First ya's get the prosperity, then ya's get the gospel. n/t

:puke:

[paparush]

11. One Giant *UGH* from me..

That pastor's wife looks..um..kinda scary...as does the Pastor himself.

Note - Bill is standing next to the babe (pastor's wife). Old habits die hard.

[Deep13]

12. How much Pepto-Bismol did Chelsea drink before starting? nt