While Prince Harry serves his country, Prince Willy plans another vacation with lazy girlfriend

[Darth_Kitten]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=523613&in_page_id=1773

hmmmm, must be nice to take several vacations a year without even having a job to go to.

[skooooo]

1. "William, 25, who is training with the RAF at Cranwell...."

He is training with RAF, whatever that is.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Royal Air Force

[Rene]

21. Did I hear Harry saying he felt like a 'normal' person while he was killing people as a soldier?

[skooooo]

24. He wasn't close enough to kill anyone..

...it was probably more like a field trip with the boys.

[AZ Criminal JD]

46. He was a forward air controller

He directed bomb attacks on enemy positions. In that job you often will take control of the bomb yourself and guide it in to the target. You have to be very close an enemy positions to do that job.

[Dorian Gray]

32. It's the

Royal Air Force. He's also going into the military.

(My first husband was RAF.)

[acmavm]

3. He's second in line to the throne and Prince Harry has said his brother is

jealous of the fact that he (Harry) has seen active duty and he (William) won't.

[skooooo]

6. Sounds like they live in some kind of fantasy world...

Maybe if they saw war up close in Baghdad they'd feel differently.

I'm sure their mother would be proud?

[supernova]

4. You do know The Daily Mail is little more

than a gussied up News of the World, right?

While your opinions about these young men might be valid, you undercut it by posting from TDM.

[Darth_Kitten]

9. Perhaps a little tabloid, but it's true.

:)

[supernova]

13. Two Links for you:

A little discussion in the UK Forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=191&topic_id=22736


The result here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2174684



My point is I don't know why you post stuff out of TDM when they are a deliberate rag that likes to incite people who aren't white, christian, and uptight.

[TheDebbieDee]

14. Wow! I swear I didn't know we HAD a UK forum....

I need to get out of GD and GD:P more often!

[supernova]

18. They're a cool bunch

our UK DUers.

B-)

[noamnety]

5. I don't believe his "lazy" girlfriend

has asked for publicity, or for your assessment of her worth as a human.

What is the point of tearing apart every woman who hits the media spotlight? Why do we do that in this culture?

[Darth_Kitten]

12. Are you kidding, she courts publicity??

Always grinning away in ANY photograph take of her.......don't care if she has asked for my assessment of her.....I think she's LAZY.

This gal lives for publicity......

[noamnety]

16. Oh, well, that changes everything.

I didn't realize she smiles a lot. Stone her!

If she wasn't smiling, people would have much to say about that as well. Welcome to the world of being female, and always being judged in a negative light in public.

Up until last fall, she was working as an assistant accessories buyer for a store. She could be doing more probably by spending her boyfriend's money on charities. But honestly if I had a crap job like that and an opportunity to take some time away from it, I'd have considered doing the same at that age, and I think many people would. It's not like the world is going to suffer, anyway, because now we've lost an accessories buyer. Maybe there are more important issues for you to attend to than outrage over one low/mid level employee taking time off from a job somewhere in another country.

[Darth_Kitten]

19. A part time job her parents' friends got for her.......

and she couldn't keep it, was too hard for her. Awwwh. The Tragedy of It All.
Some people have what we call in this world a WORK ETHIC. Kate is hardly some put upon victim. :eyes:


Also, I can attend to the important things in my life without your help, honey,remember I'm not the one getting all hot and bothered over the supposed injustices done to a shallow, spoiled, party girl. I doubt that I need a lesson in what's important in life from you, honey.

[noamnety]

23. I am not your "honey"

but thanks for that demonstration of condescension as sexism.

"Learn to relax a little and get that smug, know it all chip off your shoulder." <-- exactly what I was trying to say to you regarding your OP. :)

The issue is not that it's a big social injustice you are doing to her, specifically. The issue is that EVERY woman in the media is torn apart, again and again, even when they are not elected officials, for every offense imaginable. You wouldn't be criticizing this woman - except that she hit the media spotlight because *gasp* she presumably let a rich guy into her vagina.

Admit it - you don't have a reason to be interested in her life at all, except for the fact that she's female, unmarried, and has a sex life - and that the way we attack men we disapprove of is to attack the women in their lives. I suspect your real problem is with the guy, but we attack the woman. (The "Yer mom!" mentality)

Me, I don't know so much about the "work ethic" and how we apply it to life. If she still had her job buying accessories full time, would that somehow make for a better world? If she'd been working full time instead of part time, would that make the world better somehow?

I'm just at a loss to see why you put so much value on having a job that I consider fairly useless and maybe damaging to begin with. I mean I get the sense you'd value her more if she were still selling trinkets, but I see that as being part of a useless consumer cycle of unnecessary crap that objectifies people (primarily women) or glorifies materialism (depending if it was accessories for clothing or for houses) and ends up in landfills. If she can afford not to do that, that's great. That's not a job with inherent value except as a source of income for those who need the income.

Best is if she can find a way to work toward social justice, but most people don't, and I don't see any reason to single her out except for the purpose of attacking women as a way to express rage against men. We need to move beyond that.

[Dorian Gray]

33. I don't even know the girl

nor do I care about Kate Middleton at all, but how is it a negative thing to be grinning in photos? And how does that equal laziness?

It sounds like William will be going on with his career... in the RAF... soon.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. Just curious. The article mentions nothing of William's girlfriend as being lazy. Why do you say

that?

[Darth_Kitten]

10. That's the general opinion of her.......

she's more than educated and capable of holding down a job, but she even quit her part time job to devote time to herself. Takes vacations all the time.....everything she has has been bought and paid for by Mummy and Daddy.


She's lazy IMO and others I'm sure. :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. You called her lazy and yet you didn't say that William was lazy too. If they are spending

so much time together, isn't he as "lazy" as she is?

It just seems that you are being very judgmental, passionately so, in regard to this young woman. We each live our own lives and take our own paths, and as long as someone else's path doesn't harm others, why should we care and further, be critical?

[Karenina]

55. Get a life, D_K.

:eyes:

[MiniMe]

8. I believe that William is barred from serving because he is 2nd in line to the throne

In other words, he couldn't even if he wanted to.

[Darth_Kitten]

11. All he does is party........

He's close to 30, he should do something with his life.

[PunkinPi]

15. maybe he's taking a page out of *'s book and partying into his 40's...

:shrug:

[WillowTree]

27. Actually, William *is* preparing to go on active duty.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/royals/article858482.ece

And will be going into active serivce in a hot zone, albeit on a ship, just as Prince Andrew did when he was second in line for the throne.

[MiniMe]

34. Good for William. I meant barred from serving in the war.

And I have great respect for Harry for going.

[Ilsa]

52. I thought his remark about feeling like a normal person

gives us some insight. It sounds like there is some character building, since they don't have a regular life, baths, etc, in the field. Sounds like he is eating and drinking like everyone else in his unit. I'm glad he got to go. Now, if we could just get them ALL home...

[MiniMe]

56. Agree 100%

[tuckessee]

17. At least Willy isn't out trying to committing murder.

Unlike little Prince Harry with his soldier boy fantasies.

[treestar]

20. They're not going to send the heir into an unnecessary war and

with the spare at that. Why would they risk them both?

Those royals always seem to be on "vacation." They work so hard. :rofl:

[Rene]

22. One man's enemy is another man's freedom fighter

[High Plains]

25. Who gives a shit about either one of them?

[Midlodemocrat]

28. Wow. Lot of hate on this thread towards people who haven't done anything to you.

:wow:

[mondo joe]

30. A number of DUers could use a hate-thermometer check.

They're radiating.

[Darth_Kitten]

40. Yeah, maybe the SAME people who are so ready to ACCUSE others?

n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

39. Not hate, just a bloody posting.......

why is everybody flipping out for crying out loud? :eyes:

[noamnety]

44. perhaps in part

because they can see the inherent sexism in your OP, and perhaps in part because they see a major flaw in the attitude that if rich people were better people, they would "serve" their country by killing Iraqis or selling accessories full time.

[mondo joe]

47. "why is everybody flipping out for crying out loud?"

Please accept this as a sincere and friendly answer, which is how it's intended.

I have no issue with William or Edward. They're not angels or saints, but neither are they doing anyone any harm. They're two young men who were born to roles they've then been trained for since birth, which strikes me as a very unfortunate ting for them. They also lost their mother at a very early age, and with her the one person who might have advocated for them having anything like a normal life.

That doesn't make them heroes, or immune from criticism. But it makes them sympathetic figures, which makes uncalled for attacks yet more unfair and... worth a response.

And I'm thinking that might be how others here feel.

I'm sorry if my response seemed over the top to you. I don't have anything against you, but I felt I needed to say something.

[Midlodemocrat]

49. 'lazy girlfriend' seems pretty unkind.

[mondo joe]

29. So Edward is demonized for "hunting humans", and William for not doing so.

Fucking amazing.

[spoony]

31. How two-faced are you?

The other day you were slamming Harry, saying "big deal" about him serving, and that he's a drunken elitist who has to be forced to do anything, now you're using his service as an ideal with which to slam his brother! A brother who, by the way, not only has a job but does a great deal of charity work.

[Darth_Kitten]

37. He still is a partier, but at least he's serving his country......

in contrast to his brother who has to be forced to do, well, anything of note.

Maybe get your facts straight.

[spoony]

42. That's rich coming from a tabloid gossip

[BuddhaGirl]

53. How do you "know" they have to be forced to do anything?

what about your "facts?" Do you get them from Star or People?

Lots of projection about people you know nothing about! :shrug:

[MrsMatt]

35. I'd suggest that you try to walk a mile

in his shoes, before you condemn him.

I think his life would be miserable to live, having people on internet sites bitch about people whose lives they know shit about.

[Darth_Kitten]

36. I suggest finding someone whose life is actually hard and worry more about them.

Geez.

[mondo joe]

38. Worrying about hard lives would be more worthwhile than overanalyzing the lives of the royals.

If you ask me.

[Darth_Kitten]

41. I just posted something, by the way, WHY are you here then?

this is getting funny.

I love all the self-righteousness that comes out. Oh, I'm just too noble all the time, and I NEVER have a contrary opinion unless it's sure to change the world. :sarcasm:

[mondo joe]

43. I'm here because I answered the OP and then was checking up on it later.

And after having seen Edwards accused of "human hunting" in the war, I wondered what new shit was up.

[Darth_Kitten]

45. Edwards human hunting?

:shrug:

[mondo joe]

48. It was a sick little thread started yesterday that compared Edward in the war to the millionaire in

The Most Dangerous Game short story, implying he was only in action in the war was so he could hunt humans.

[MrsMatt]

50. Well, I guess I just feel that despite the obvious

privileges, the life of a royal has to be a hard one. Imagine if you were never accorded ANY say in your career - you were "born" into it. If you sucked a public speaking, too bad. If you wanted to be a farmer (like Charles), too bad. There is always the threat of kidnapping and assassination. I think the pressures of that lifestyle is more than any of us can imagine. As would be the pressures of being homeless - unless I've lived it, I don't feel qualified to judge the lifestyle.

Personally, I'd rather have my life than William or Harry's - I may not have their monetary resources, but my life has been much less disfunctional than theirs. I actually feel sorry for them.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

51. Looks like Prince Willy is the smart one in the family.

Having been a GI "serving my country" and been on vacations with girlfriends, I'll take the vacation any day.

Good for him.

[Thothmes]

54. jealous