I am watching police with drawn rifles escorting children with hands on heads from a school

[Stinky The Clown]

In California.

Apparently a school shooting.

Children.

Hands on heads, fingers intertwined, like criminals.

Live teevee.

Only in America?

Probably.

(in cut-aways on MSNBC at 4.35 PM EST)

[htuttle]

1. Well, I'm sure that it happens all the time in Myanmar, too...

[tridim]

2. It's practically a weekly occurrence now

But of course we don't have a gun problem here. No way no how, eh NRA?

[slackmaster]

5. It seems that most "gun problems" occur in unenforced gun-free zones

Why is that?

[sepulveda]

11. but

we all know if guns were allowed on campus, they would become free fire zones, like happens at the University of Washington, Evergreen State College, and other Washington universities where guns are allowed.

oh wait...

nevermind

[Ghost in the Machine]

12. No, it's not a "gun problem", it's a "mental health" problem, and "an enforcement of laws" problem..

Our society has become numb to violence since it is glorified on TV, in movies and in todays video games. Violence has become the answer to everything.

It's a mental health problem because far too many people are going without treatment, or slipping under the radar during screening for purchases. Many parents aren't seeing the warning flags in their child's behavior and they keep guns in their homes where a troubled teen can access it.

It's an enforcement of existing laws problem because there doesn't seem to be a checks and balances system to keep the guns out of the hands of criminals. I'm a gun owner, but I personally think that anyone using a gun during the commission of a crime should have their sentence automatically doubled, then, if a person convicted of a crime involving a gun is ever caught with a gun again, it should be an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole. They've already proven they can't play by the rules... twice. Or they could have their hands chopped off so they could never pick up a gun again. Would that be too cruel?? Who gives a fuck! It's a violent criminal we're talking about, fuck 'em...

Time now to trot out the other argument... drunks kill a lot of people every year with their cars... should we ban alcohol, cars... or both?? These people intentionally drink, intentionally get drunk, then intentionally drive, which means they are intentionally breaking the law. They show no regard for our laws or for human life.

Does this mean we have a "car problem"? NO, it doesn't, does it? It means we have people who ignore laws that are already on the books meant to protect us from these people, but these people disregard those laws.

I get tired of hearing the same old tired crap all of the time, blaming the gun, which is an inanimate object incapable of doing ANYTHING on its own accord, instead of blaming the PERSON who committed the crime, the societal issues that pushed him over the edge, and the lack of mental health treatment that could have possibly helped the person.

Here's a free bit of advice to anyone who would use a gun to harm another person in cold blood: Seek mental health counseling NOW! You aren't thinking right. It's NOT normal to plan to kill someone, then carry that plan out. Besides that, it makes you a wimp! What's wrong, little man? Are you too weak and cowardly to face someone and take them on, hand to hand, face to face, one on one? That's what I thought.... WUSSY! Using a weapon is a COWARDS way out. If you feel a need to shoot someone, shoot yourself save other families a lot of pain & grief, you chickenshit coward.

[elehhhhna]

14. THIS POST should be its own thread. Well put!

[Stinky The Clown]

15. Please post this as its **OWN** post. It belongs on the Greatest Page

[tridim]

16. Have you seen "Bowling For Columbine"?

We have a gun problem and a "Keep the public scared to death" problem.

It is NOT a movie, music, video game problem.

[Ghost in the Machine]

18. Have you seen real life with your jaded glasses off?

How's the weather in fantasyland?

[tridim]

19. Please watch the movie.

[timtom]

17. I haven't owned a gun since I left the Marine Corps in 1966

and I have to say, I agree with you!!

I've been waiting for someone to breathe rational thought into this debate.

Frankly, I don't trust myself with a weapon.

[Sugar Smack]

3. No cable. What's happening?

[Stinky The Clown]

8. Its unfolding .... "developing" as they say ........

Blair HS in Pasadena, CA. Reports of a shooter on campus. They're escorting kids in small groups from the main school building to the gym. The kids are led by a cop with his rifle at the ready, followed by the same. The kids all have their hands on their heads.

[satireV]

4. It was Hillary's fault. no! it was Obama's fault

Let's blame anyone but the real cause of hate in this country..... GOP conservatives.

[liberalnurse]

6. It is the procedure for safety.

Getting blown-up or shooting other children is a worse scenario.

Blame the gunman....thank the Officers for keeping the others children safe.

[LSparkle]

7. Blair High School in Pasadena, CA

Don't know if that's public or private ... ???

[SouthPasadenaDem]

13. It's a public school,

Pasadena Unifed School District, and literally a few blocks from my apartment.

Hope everyone there is safe ...

[lpbk2713]

9. I don't care to go and look ...

... but it wouldn't surprise me if some freeper a-hole has already started a thread on their

nutjub website that starts off with the words "If teachers were allowed to carry guns ..."

[The Straight Story]

10. I would draw my rifle as well

If someone started shooting at the kids I would want to be able to react quickly.

But I get your point (just saying, it is somewhat practical to have your gun on the ready in such a situation - still sucks to see it).