Proposed West Virginia bill would require "Fetus Registry"

[theHandpuppet]

http://www.journal-news.net/page/content.detail/id/503967.html?nav=5006

MARTINSBURG — Thirty-five years after the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade decision, abortion continues to be high on some legislative agendas.

This year, 61 bills were introduced in the state Legislature attempting to change existing abortion laws. Delegates Craig Blair, R-Berkeley, and John Overington, R-Berkeley; and Sen. Clark Barnes, R-Randolph, were among those to introduce the measures.

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The measure, which was forwarded to the Committee on Health and Human Resources, aims to create an “aborted fetus registry.” The bill would require a “fetal death certificate,” and mandate that information about the fetus’ gestational age, the type of abortion performed and the age and county of residence of the woman receiving the abortion, be recorded. Any possible birth defects would also have to be noted, as would the “method of disposal of the remains,” the bill states.

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Margaret Chapman, executive director of West Virginia Free said such data is already collected and retained by state agencies.

Chapman’s Charleston-based organization is a nonprofit agency that focuses on increasing women’s access to reproductive health care, birth control and sexual education. She believes that measures such as HB 2149 would further limit access in a state that has only two functioning abortion clinics and one of the lowest rates of abortions in the nation....

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[Robb]

1. Clearly these Senators are in the pockets of Pottern Barn and Crate & Barrel. nt

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

41. I propose an "ejaculation" registry!!! It's a minimum 50-yr-felony for failure to report!!!!

All a woman has to do is go to a community clinic to collect and date the sample.

I guarantee,...all this "pro-fetus" stuff would take a dramatic turn,...guaran-fucking-tee!!}(

[lligrd]

2. Downright Scary nt

[BlueIris]

3. Ew. Just when you think you've seen it all. nt

[AlCzervik]

4. how about a jerking off registry, thats half a snow flake baby.

[NMMNG]

6. Every sperm is sacred

Can't let them go to waste, now.

[AlCzervik]

9. and i'm sure the (R) legislators that introduced this honk off regularly.

[NMMNG]

13. Probably because no woman would screw them

Hence their desire to control women.

[AlCzervik]

14. no doubt. This kind of shit makes my blood boil.

[tavalon]

19. Complete with samples

[NMMNG]

5. Damn control freaks

:banghead:

[theHandpuppet]

8. Yes, and it's crap like this...

... that reminds me I want a President who will, unequivocally and publicly, state that they will do everything within their power to protect a woman's right to choose. And that means no more Alitos on the SC as well.

These are the types of issues that should be raised in the ongoing debates.

[tavalon]

20. What!?

Are you trying to say this isn't about saving the precious little babies?!!!! This is about controlling women?!!! No.

:sarcasm:

[uppityperson]

7. k&r

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Time to re-read "The Handmaid's Tale" nt

[knitter4democracy]

11. That book gave me nightmares.

I read it two years ago, too, so I can just imagine the night terrors I would get if I re-read it now.

[knitter4democracy]

12. They haven't thought this through.

If a woman spontaneously aborts (miscarries) at home, how is she supposed to get the paperwork filled out? It wouldn't be hard to interpret that law as applying to miscarriages. Yeah, that's fair to a woman grieving that she lost her baby.

[tavalon]

21. And many people abort (miscarry) without knowing

Therefore, I think it would be best if the all the women just go ahead and send in their used sanitary supplies. The legislature can determine if an abortion has occurred and notify the woman to fill out the paperwork. :evilgrin:

This fucktardery must end.

[gratuitous]

29. That's where I come down on this

Put these three jerkwads in charge of microscopic examination of every used sanitary product in the state. That should keep them busy enough to quit introducing stupid-ass legislation like this.

[Angry Mollusk]

15. Why do middle aged Christian men feel they must control women?

Once again, radical Christian men are trying to control women-The idea of a woman having the right to decide whjat happens to her own body offends these christofacists to no end. If they could keep women chained at home, they would do that as well....

It's only a matter of time before they try and ban birth control, arguing that the sperm and egg are also lifeforms that need protection..

[tavalon]

22. Because they are terrified of us

We hold the power of life.

[Wizard777]

16. I often ask prolife women when they insist that the cells are human life.

Do you try to obtain a death certificate for every blob you find on a tampon? I find that to be an equally rediculous notion. Apparently not in West Virginia. I mean dayum!

Btw, I'm prochoice and I choose life. But being a man. What I think doesn't legally count for anything. My only legal choice is to pay or go to jail.

[havocmom]

42. Your only choice is to pay or go to jail? There is another option...

Talk to your gym teacher. Maybe he can recommend a book.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Great.

Just fucking great. :eyes:

[tavalon]

18. Time to start sending them used pads and tampons

You never know if a miscarriage might have happened. Don't want to miss any of those aborted feti.

Jackasses, every one.

[TalkingDog]

30. Ah, yes. Reviving an oldie goldie.

I remember in the 90's when this was proposed for a similar bill in.....(? brain fart)

That bill went down in flames. This one probably will too.

But if not, envelopes at the ready.

[Lasher]

33. This bill isn't going anywhere.

Legislators said they recognize that the initiatives are not likely to make much progress this year.

“That hasn’t been taken up, and the committee chairman isn’t going to have that on the agenda,” Overington said of House Bill 2149, for which he was the lead sponsor.

There are 23 Democrats and 11 Republicans in the WV Senate. In the House of Delegates, Democrats have a 72 to 28 majority. And this fall I think this will get even better.

Like somebody said upthread, these Republicans are just pandering to the fundies.

[MountainLaurel]

36. Here are the addresses of the three mentioned

Craig P. Blair
(R - Berkeley)
Room 150R, Building 1
State Capitol Complex
Charleston, WV 25305

John Overington
(R - Berkeley)
Room 258M, Building 1
State Capitol Complex
Charleston, WV 25305

Clark S. Barnes (R - Randolph)
Minority Whip
Room 203W, Building 1
State Capitol Complex
Charleston, WV 25305

[sutz12]

23. Where do I go to register my sperm? nt

[JerseygirlCT]

24. Hasn't Kansas tried something like this, too?

Jerks.

[MountainLaurel]

31. Virginia n/t

[Iris]

40. It's probably something written by an anti-abortion group. These bills seem to make the rounds

in a lot of fundy states. We've had it presented in GA and they just tabled a fetal rights bill last week.

[smokey nj]

25. Kick

[Solly Mack]

26. Well, damn. You mean we can't register the fetus at Bob's Bait and Tackle??

Maybe even a Fetus-land General!!! Call'em the real cabbage patch dolls ...and adopt the blobs and squishy masses out, complete with certificate of death and adoption. They could have cool names like Suctioned Sally and Shredded Pete.

[HuffleClaw]

27. "61 bills were introduced in the state Legislature attempting to change existing abortion laws"

what an utter waste of time, grandstanding for the fundies. disgusting.

[theHandpuppet]

32. Yeah, it's not like we have any real problems here in WV

Like poverty, hunger, homelessness, unemployment and lack of quality education.

[eppur_se_muova]

28. YET ANOTHER reason to leave WV. No wonder WV has ...

the oldest population of any US state: http://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/hsc/briefs/ten/default.htm

[MountainLaurel]

35. I have to admit

It's shit like this why I'll never move back.

[ThomWV]

34. This is West Virginia, Republican sponsored bills do not pass in this state

[SoCalDem]

37. New elected officials? The Menstruation Magistrates?

They show up monthly at each home with a fertile female, and perform a monthly blood test?

or maybe they could take a page from the old "Show Us your Larks" cigarette commercials?? (Ladies, show us your..er...um...you know..)

or have the grocery stores track "ladies stuff", and report to the MMs if purchases drop "suddenly" in a household..?

Recalcitrant females may have to be taken into "protective custody", until the young'un is born..and then the Mom & child would be released back into the "wild", with no additional contact or support?

or maybe if the baby is particularly cute & white, it could always be "sold" to a deserving wealthy, but childless couple who are god-fearing Christians? (God wants them to have a child, so he made sure they had enought money to buy a cute one)

[Firespirit]

38. One of my sisters began as a triplet

The other two failed to develop and were absorbed by the surviving fetus.

Wouldn't that have to be reported? Not just ONE aborted fetus, but TWO, and they were cannibalized by a female, to boot! Clearly, this is the business of the State.

[Iris]

39. After Bush, what state has excess resources to use for something like this?

Wouldn't they be better of spending the money on prenatal care for poor women and funding DFACS or some other social services that could actually help a living child?