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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:43 PM
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Missouri House gives first OK to constitutional amendment emphasizing the right to pray


JEFFERSON CITY – The Missouri House gave preliminary approval Monday to a proposed constitutional amendment that would emphasize the right to pray in any public setting, including public schools.

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Rep. Ray Salva, a Sugar Creek Democrat, tried to insert a requirement that all sporting events include a time to pray between recitation of the pledge of allegiance and the start of the event. That proposal was ruled out of order.

The sometimes wild maneuvering reflected the feeling of most Democrats that the proposal was nothing more than meaningless verbiage designed to go on the ballot to drive religious conservatives to the polls in November.

Republicans, including the proposal’s sponsor, Rep. Mike McGhee of Odessa, acknowledged that the new wording would not change the law. But McGhee said it was needed to highlight that children had the right to carry Bibles on school buses and could write about Jesus in class.

Rep. Jim Lembke, a St. Louis County Republican, said “you can’t get much clearer” than the current Missouri Constitution’s guarantee of religious freedom. But the new wording would be a rebuke to people who have tried to outlaw prayer in public schools and sought the removal of the Ten Commandments from public places.

“This will send a clear message to people who might want to mess with those rights to keep their hands off,” Lembke said.

Rep. Trent Skaggs, a North Kansas City Democrat, demanded to know where Bible-toting children had not been allowed to ride school buses. McGhee said he didn’t know the location.

more . . . http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/10102#comment-12927
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:48 PM
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1. The Top 3 prayers in public school:
"Oh, God, please let me pass this test"
"Dear God, please let us win the championship"
"Please Lord, let me meet that gorgeous hunk/babe"
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:49 PM
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2. I hope Muslims take them up on this...
...numerous times a day.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:58 PM
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4. My thoughts exactly!!
:toast:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:58 PM
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6. Oh, my. Yes.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:56 PM
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3. GEE
when they took "prayer" out of the public schools?

I was in grade school back then, and I went to a Catholic school BECAUSE our church said Catholic kids were not allowed to go the the public school since they said the WRONG LORDS PRAYER and they USED THE WRONG BIBLE! Somehow, I suspect Jewish families said similar things too. It seems that the only religious group that was happy with having prayer in schools were those who were members of a religion that was being promoted.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:58 PM
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5. This seems to be about praying out loud on public grounds.
In other words, it's an end run around any public nuisance noise laws that might be on the books.

Pray away. Just keep it between you and your god of choice.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:00 PM
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7. One of the reps claimed a kid had complained that he couldn't take a bible or talk about Jesus
on a school bus. But he had no details, couldn't say where this had happened or who the kid was.

And we all know republicans would NEVER lie. :)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:03 PM
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8. Christian Nazis Pretending to be Oppressed
Fucking liars make me sick
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:21 PM
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9. If anyone's interested in forming a Jackson County separatist movement, I'm in.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 11:23 PM by Telly Savalas
These assholes have repeatedly demonstrated that they have no business touching my tax dollars. If Representative Hotdamn from Cousinfucker County wants to "govern" like this, then he needs to be doing it on his own fucking dime, not mine and not those of other Kansas Citians who own calendars and are aware what century this is.

Jackson County should secede from Missouri and form its own state. We've got enough problems of our own without these stupid hillbillies trying to drag us down further.

Hell, we've got more folks in KCMO than there are in Wyoming. We deserve two senators in Washington also.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:01 AM
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11. Sounds good to me!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:29 PM
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10. O Lord! How much longer 'til the Rapture? Take them! Now!
:puke:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:15 AM
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12. Let us pray!!!
:rofl:
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