Is Levin arguing FOR immunity on FISA? (on the Senate Floor Now). nt

[gateley]

[Subdivisions]

1. He's against the retroactive immunity amendment. n/t

[Deny and Shred]

7. Hope you all still got your ears on because Chris Dodd has

just delivered among the most comprehensive, convincing and impassioned denuciations of Bush Administrtion hubris I've heard. He is just finishing speaking now, and has destroyed, point by point, each argument for retroactive immunity over the course of two hours.
I can't help but note the stark difference between listening to an intelligent Senator and our beloved (ha ha) President, who can't spit out two sentences when he's reading from a teleprompter.
Although long, this speech was on point, quoting Tom Dasche's blunt refusal to approve the authority that Gonzo granted Bush, and deliniating exactly why this country ought to let this decision be made by the courts. 3 co-equal branches, and Congress can't decide to forgo the courts any more than Dodd himself can call Bush's action unlawful, AND no more than Bush can say it is lawful. It is for a court to decide, even a crap-ass judge he appointed.
It's rare that I get a quality gut feeling anymore that justice can actually be done, but I got it tonight. I can't find the transcript yet, but if available tomorrow, I'll be glad to parse it for y'all in a General Discussion. That is if I can create one, I guess I still considered a newbie who can't be trusted with that sort of thing.

I doubt it's available at CSPAN now, but...

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

This post should be at later (10:00 PMish). Replied to the wrong thing.

[Deny and Shred]

2. Not to my ears. I gotta say that he, Whitehouse and Dodd are

making some great points. I love to hear disclosure, proper assessment of blame, truth and justice defended.
Yo Senate, where was this before Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Iraq Authorization, among many others. It seemed like Kuchinich vs. 99. I know it wasn't, but he was the only zealous speaker.
This is good to see.
Also, how big a boob is Orrin Hatch anyway?

[jkshaw]

4. A very big boob

And we, in Utah, are stuck with him.

[gateley]

3. Thanks for setting me straight, guys - I THOUGHT I must be wrong!

:hi:

[kristopher]

5. Thanks for the heads up

CSPAN is actually playing a piece of classical music (don't know the name) that most people know as *the* funeral dirge.
dum dum du dum du de dum du du de dum...

[gateley]

6. I heard that! Wonder what's going on behind the scenes -- the music has

been playing for a LONG time! Deal making, no doubt. :eyes: