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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:03 PM Original message |
The Male Privilege Checklist |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. well sorry, how many lashes shall I recieve for being male? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I try not to either but it seems some need a reminder |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Try harder. n/t |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Thanks Lumberjack ....Dad |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
154. I'm comfortable... no... happy, with who I am. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Well, how many can you take without crying like a whiny baby? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
102. I'm sure only a few would teach him to take it like a man. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
66. That's kind of what I've been waiting for |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
125. how many do you deserve? |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
164. so i suppose you don't think white privilege exists either? we're all on a level playing field... yo |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #164 |
291. Why would you "suppose" that? n/t |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
208. You posted a sexist term about Hillary Clinton |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
230. I think acknowledgment might be enough . . . is that a stumbling block --- ??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #230 |
231. Great list --- needs to be understood/acknowledged --- |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks For Reminding Me. Now My Depression Is Complete. |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do you mean the "Male Accomplishment Checklist"? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. ????? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. See the "White Privilege Checklist" and get back to me. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
127. misogyny knows no color - world wide |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Suppression of an entire sex is indeed an "accomplishment." |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. What are you implying? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. 47. You can have dancing concubines if you wish. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. Nice post |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I place the other thread on the white checklist |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
67. I read everything he writes |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Let's add ' Male-Only ' Parking. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
10. and do you know what's even better than being just a guy in this world? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
109. But best of all is rich. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
134. Alright, already. We can't ALL be rich white straight guys. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #109 |
220. i OWN my house(not the bank) and i retired at age 38...but i'm not rich. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Now let me tell you about my privilege as a member of a matriarchal system |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Nice post sounds like you live in Scandinavia |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Nope, but I used to live in Texas, |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. hi Tavalon. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
192. Looking at your website, I would say it's a given that we run in the same circles |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. OMFG! Why have we not talked yet? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
191. Yeah, most people here are more confused by the word than anything |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #191 |
205. Hee. This is actually my first "real" poly relationship |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Hi heathen! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
188. Yeah, I know Thelema, though I'm not a Thelemite |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #188 |
195. You guys have the best gnostic masses ever. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
14. If you feel slightly nauseous, you won't be asked if you're pregnant |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. WOW! Hillary certainly has brought out the man haters |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. You wanna see what real manhating looks like. I gotcher manhating right here |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. thats good. i need to bookmark that. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Here's the entire document; it was a group project... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
108. Yeah. The manhating charge makes as much sense... |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
130. So because this woman believes all men are diseased and should be killed... |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I support Obama now |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
112. What does Hillary have to do with it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
160. Deleted message |
Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
177. WOW! This thread certainly has brought out the woman haters |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
181. So you consider sociological research and its discussion to be "man hating?" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #181 |
187. "statements of fact" |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #187 |
190. Each of the statements is backed up with statistics and studies. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #190 |
207. it appears that only the ones that say "more" have links for backup |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #181 |
211. Sociological research? |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R. Figure it out, people. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. Now if we could just swap bicycles with the women, we'd have it made! |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Keeeeriminey! Have you seen how far some of those bars on women's |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. i know. even when i was a kid i didnt get that. lol ah well. n.t |
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Lex Talionis (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
149. Ok, now thats funny! Kudos to you. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
317. you can have mine |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
19. We really need to do something about #5 |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
81. Yes, most guys do care if you're a slut. Especially if they perceive a woman as a slut, |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
198. You're right that a lot of women bash other women. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
23. All of these are incredibly useful. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. You're welcome |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. Dead on... except one, 25. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
246. I think it's simultaneously narrower and wider |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #246 |
337. That's very true - especially the shoes |
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Jeffro40 (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'm bored with reverse discrimination. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. This is not about liking you or not liking you, or wanting anyone to feel badly. |
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Jeffro40 (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. That's hogwash. It was overwhelmingly accusatory |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Wow. Intellectually dishonest and cowardly? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The presumption that this is a one-way street does tremendous damage. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
72. ANd for fileds dominated by men |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Amen |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. With power comes responsibility |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. my white boys are young and in talking about this i got the same whine from them |
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Jeffro40 (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I picked up on your "information sharing." |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. The information you shared was |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. there was no sly or trick to it. i thought it pretty obvious myself. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
131. "rude"? "cowardly"? goodness, get a grip |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
73. Sometimes people do use it to demean men |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. you know those little angels of yours, lol lol..... ahhhhh |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
144. You remind me of my parents |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. that's the spirit! |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
45. Wealthy women have long attempted to pretend that their wealth is not "privilege" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. a wealthy black has privilige. does that mean we ignore the racism against blacks? n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Nope. Neither should we insist that skid row whites are "privileged" relative to him |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
167. they are priviliged in a *racial* sense over blacks, and that of course is the issue, as with sexism |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #167 |
184. the subject used "whites" and lectures, black person..... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #184 |
264. "Whites" simply doesn't have the racial baggage "blacks" has. My request to you was specific. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #264 |
273. bullshit, you fucked up. inconsistancy or hypocrisy? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #273 |
276. No. "Blacks" is considered offensive by some. "Whites" is not. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #276 |
278. no it isnt. n/t |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. There is none so blind... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #167 |
265. In other words, you don't want people to talk about CLASS |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #265 |
327. by all means, start a thread about class if you want; this one is about gender. and your excuse |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
182. Skid row white men are privileged over skid row white women |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #182 |
267. People aren't "whole groups"--they are individuals. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #267 |
311. Yes, but privilege is about whole groups |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
119. there have been some "working class" presidents, haven't there? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
193. I've NEVER seen a person pretend wealth isn't privilege. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
46. One that was missed: |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. The figure is 77 cents, and it's misleading. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. You are quoting a Libertarian magazine? . Please. I was working as a |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
70. This is an issue near and dear to my heart. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #70 |
87. The American Association of University Women's study |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #87 |
143. In engineering, women and men are paid the same at the same rank |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #143 |
179. And you were guilty of it. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:18 AM Response to Reply #179 |
239. Sorry, but you don't get to play the "let bygones be bygones" card |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #239 |
297. What gave you the right to act as a one-woman affirmative action crew? |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #297 |
323. Oh, don't kid yourself. You're assuming PLENTY. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #323 |
324. Backpedalling is unseemly. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #324 |
325. See, you're unable even to grasp the concept. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #325 |
326. No, to "boys" like me, gender preference is unacceptable. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #326 |
331. Sure it is. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #331 |
332. Perhaps not, but you did fool me. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #326 |
338. If it were SO unacceptable to you |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #338 |
340. If you had known me for the last 25 years... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #340 |
341. If I were the principal at our school |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #341 |
342. What did the white men think? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #342 |
343. Well, congrats. You'd fit right in with them. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #343 |
344. Privilege is an odd thing. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #344 |
345. I don't have a master's yet |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #345 |
346. The difference between the three is that two of them exist. n/t |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #346 |
347. Wow. nt |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
148. most schmost |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. That's true. There are very few feminist sources which quote the fine print of the AAUW report. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
194. Not this crap again. The pay gap is AFTER adjustments. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #194 |
224. One at a time |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #224 |
225. Once again, the GAO study accounted for career choices |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #225 |
227. Yes. Truth is a valid purpose. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
50. 47. Because I recognize these realities, I do what I can to promote equality. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Why feel like shit? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Like I said, I recognize those realities. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Recognizing and being aware is the whole point. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #61 |
263. If you're not part of the problem, nobody is asking you to wear any |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Well, the thread did generate |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
58. On the other hand, you're allowed to show emotion, ask for help, etc. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It is about Human dignity |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I think we're talking about different things. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I wasn't referring to an individual experience. |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. We're talking about *institutionalized* privilege. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. There's a bit of defensiveness, yes-- |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #64 |
92. Schools? Family court? n/t |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
221. Schools? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #92 |
226. Family Court |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #226 |
302. The other side. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #64 |
105. By the way, many-- if not most-- of those items have nothing to do |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #64 |
272. 90+ % of my instructors at all levels of school have been women |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #272 |
307. One of the primary reasons for the dropout rate among boys |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #307 |
312. there you go jack |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #312 |
315. Absolutely agree. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. inequality can be rough on both parties ... yes, you are right |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
68. K, R & B |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
69. I don't think I have to apologize for being male. You can keep your guilt ridden hair shirt. Cheers |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
200. Nobody is asking you to apologize or feel guilty for being male. |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #200 |
219. Ask the others who responded the same way I did to apologiize. BTW I didn't call the OP a jerk. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
233. certainly not; nobody said you should. but if you're sexist you should, but probably won't. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
74. my fav priviledge is |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. "thousands of years of history". it isnt done. still happening. so.... |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. no? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. where are you being put down in this post |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. im being put down because its awful broad |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. sheeeit, too young? well hell i give it to my kids and they have barely |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. i only hope |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. blaming is weak. i dont believe in it. non productive, waste of time, useless. n/t |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
77. Dupe! |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
78. I'm both white and male. PrivilegesGalore! |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
79. K&R. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
82. i dont get this white male whining. i too am privileged in many ways and recognize it |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. White affluent americans, of either gender are privileged in many ways. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. no shit, that is what i just said, lol lol. so why pretend otherwise |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. I just said the opposite of what you said. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. i am a female and saying i have all kinds of advantages being white, american and upper income |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. In a thread dedicated to "raising awareness" of male privilege... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. post #88 was missin a whole lotta stuff. you have to actually say it..... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #99 |
121. BUT.... |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
169. Black affluent americans, of either gender are privileged in many ways... so racism doesn't exist |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. Racism does exist, and it manifests itself in powerful and obvious disadvantages. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #172 |
189. Spoken by a clueless white man. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #189 |
210. A well-known discussion tactic, unlike the high-road of name calling? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. But somehow you find it within your purview |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #214 |
215. Thank you for the kind wishes. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:15 AM Response to Reply #172 |
234. the manifestations of sexism and racism are different, but to suggest as you did that sexism essenti |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #234 |
314. I've been spoken harshly to on jobsites as well. I didn't like it either. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #314 |
328. O.M.G. case closed. how many times have you been spoken harshly to about your *gender* by a boss, |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #328 |
329. A) they're not "my statistics" they are from the group which purports to advance your interests |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #329 |
334. alright dude, you win. i'm sorry. there is no sexism, or if there is, it's anti-male. nt |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
85. Thanks! |
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86. Deleted message |
AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
89. What a steaming pile of stewed fewmets. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
153. No one should feel ashamed to be a woman or a man. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
170. wow, i bet men love you, don't they? nt |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:25 AM Response to Reply #170 |
339. I have no idea. Nor do I care. It's completely irrelevant. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
94. 6a. And I'll be paid more. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #94 |
106. Yes, commercial fishing pays reasonably well. n/t |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
95. I just don't get this - I have no problem seeing a White Privilege Checklist and acknowledging |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Thank you -- I just skimmed some of the replies and the defensiveness is odd to me. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #95 |
107. White men, like me, are privileged by being white. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. even my old fashon, corporate, business ownin republican father knows their is gender discrimination |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Out of every 10 college graduates this year, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. i guess on that we will have to agree to disagree jack.... but then i live in the panhandle |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. I found two or three with which I agree. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. you are wrong. there is no diplomatic way of saying it |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. The OP wasn't wearing your shoes, it was predicated on wearing mine. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #126 |
136. lmao..... |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #107 |
173. wow, Clueless, thy name is white male. honey, if you don't think you're privileged by being male |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. If I told you which stereotypes fit you |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:26 AM Response to Reply #174 |
235. well, if men were denied the right to vote, i would be the first to support "VotesForMen." you know |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
129. Thank You... |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
171. i think it's easier for whites to acknowlege white privilege because most white people don't have in |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
98. for the record |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
103. "I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam"... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
113. Thank you. I appreciate your sincerity. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
114. the list is NOT accurate, because it is written in first person |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #114 |
118. The OP in no way ascribed negative characteristics to all members of a group |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Stereotype: n |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Gee, thanks, Webster! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. I find intriguing how vitally, earth-shatteringly important this topic is... |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. And I find it patronizing and disingenuous when someone copies and pastes a dictionary definition of |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #133 |
138. in response to a specific denial that the OP list is a stereotype. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:44 AM Response to Reply #133 |
237. Perhaps you should try, therefore, to have a better vocabulary |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #237 |
240. Are you basing your assessment of my linguistic shortcomings on a single post? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #240 |
241. Well... you did seem unfamiliar with a pretty common word |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #241 |
242. let me ask |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #242 |
244. That's really offensive |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #244 |
247. whats the lie. women are raped. men are not raped. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #247 |
248. Why don't you educate yourself? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #248 |
249. to suggest men equally face rape is pathetic. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #249 |
253. How fucking dare you |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #253 |
256. i fucking dare |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #256 |
268. listen |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #268 |
274. there is little racism in America.... i disagree with you on this also. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #274 |
287. What's wrong with your reading comprehension? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #287 |
294. it wasnt clear and since you believe men are raped as much as women i figured you believed |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #294 |
299. It's pointless |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #268 |
277. there is little racism in America.... i disagree with you on this also. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #256 |
335. you might add that rapists are usually men. nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #253 |
290. This topic is ill-served by turning into a flame war. n/t |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #290 |
295. I totally agree |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #241 |
243. And you really put me in my place, big guy! |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #243 |
245. So you respond again with outright disgusting sexism? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
178. So, are you ever afraid to go out to talk business at bars with male sales clients |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Have you ever had a conversation with a person... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #180 |
232. I wasn't really trying to have a conversation. /nt |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #232 |
330. That much is apparent. n/t |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #118 |
135. that you deny this kind of list is intended to describe "all men" |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. It's not describing men at all. It's pointing out some things that women deal with. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #140 |
151. "The MALE Privelege Checklist" |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #135 |
146. It isn't describing men. It's describing society. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. your subject is patently, literally and emotionally not true. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #152 |
156. It is absolutely true |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #156 |
183. read the damned subject line; |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. It is about men as the objects of the privilege |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #135 |
336. almost all men enjoy male privilege; doesn't mean that all men are sexist, though. nt |
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negativenihil (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
116. every time this sort of thread comes up... |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
124. The lines are shorter to pee at a public event! |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #124 |
137. Bwahaha! |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
139. When was this written and how much of it is still relevant? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. It reads like it was written in 1972 |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. Here's a link to the blog where it was originally written |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #145 |
157. Seems to have some misandrist crap on there |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. I'm not familiar with the blog, I just googled |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
141. That's stupid and offensive |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
147. Link to lots more privilege lists |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
150. I Am A Woman Who Was Fired |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #150 |
159. I got fired once for calling out a former boss for staring at women's breasts when he talked to them |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #159 |
176. I Appealed My Firing To The EEOC |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #176 |
196. One of my bosses refused to hire a woman |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #196 |
213. During Most Of My Career, I Was Paid Less |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. I didn't stand up for the other woman either |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #150 |
236. yep; women are their own worst enemy, many times. nt |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #236 |
269. Often they are, and a lot of that has to do with the politics of power. |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
155. it is so interwoven into |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
161. 37 - not really the case anymore - especially in the US |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. bah hahaha. you don't live in the religious belt do you. inevitably |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. No, I don't. But truly the fundamentalist - wife-submitting types of |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. i am from calif. moved to panhandle of texas. i did not know this world existed |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Well, certainly there are areas like that, unfortunately |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #162 |
284. It's not even just the fundies. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #284 |
285. wow, isnt that interesting and there you go. not hard. not painful. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
165. don't you know you're not supposed to talk about that stuff; it's not lady-like. nt |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
175. I don't think 16 is really true. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #175 |
202. Documentation for #16 |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #175 |
203. Documentation for #18 |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #175 |
204. Explanation of 41 |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
186. Thanks for number 44! |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #186 |
228. just for you |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
197. As a woman I agree with all except #24 |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. You can't win either way |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #199 |
201. It doesn't! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
206. Okay, this deserves the point-by-point treatment |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
209. hmmm, let's see |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #209 |
218. GTRMAN......I love you. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #218 |
250. *blushes* |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #250 |
261. Understandable! Sometimes we forget that as Democrats we're supposed to be on the same side. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #261 |
266. sometimes? |
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McHatin (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
212. What do you want to bet... |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
217. Why is this post still going? I ordered your chemical castration hours ago. |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #217 |
222. I'm also wondering why it's still going. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. and lookie, you posting AND continuing it on..... lol lol n/t |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #223 |
304. I know. I cannot help myself. |
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Luna_C_06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
229. Thank you for posting this! |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
238. This list is symptomatic of the generational divide on DU |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #238 |
251. They graduate at college at higher rates |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #251 |
252. this poster also says rape is not only a woman issue, but equally a man issue too. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #252 |
254. Deleted message |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #254 |
257. men are as concerned about being raped as women? n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #254 |
258. whats the lie. women are raped. men are not raped. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #258 |
271. Deleted message |
gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #254 |
260. In the list in the OP, it specifically says "If I'm a teen or adult" |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #260 |
270. Excluding the south, there's little racism in the US |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #270 |
275. Yeah, right. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #275 |
293. Why must I explain the obvious? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #270 |
279. I live in Michigan, and I can tell you that's simply not true |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #279 |
289. Do you need reading lessons too? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #289 |
296. sure everyone else has the problem, cant be that you werent clear..... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #296 |
300. No I wasn't unclear |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #300 |
303. You are being willfully obtuse |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #303 |
308. See, you missed it again |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #289 |
301. It's limiting to instances of male privilege |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #301 |
305. But that's utterly irrational don't you see? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #305 |
306. Your logic is all screwed up |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #306 |
309. But limiting a discussion of popcorn to only include chocolate covered popcorn |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #309 |
313. Not if the whole list is about chocolate |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #313 |
316. But it is statistically idiotic to focus on chocolate-covered popcorn |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #301 |
321. Yet, if you were a male, you'd be 50% more likely to be the victim of violent crime. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #270 |
333. jeezus h. christ. nt |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #254 |
262. Is it really EQUALLY an issue for both genders? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #262 |
283. dear god in heaven...... if you dont believe you=dumb. dontcha know. stupid women |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #283 |
292. No one is calling you a stupid woman |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #292 |
320. oh gosh, yes, that's exactly what this entire list was about. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #262 |
310. Would you agree that rape is intolerable, regardless? |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #310 |
318. Rape is intolerable, yes. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #318 |
319. Agreed. Thank you for helping to seek common ground. n/t |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #251 |
259. The problem isn't a lack of understanding of statistics |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
255. kick |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #255 |
286. Don't worry, it'll still be here when you come back. |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #255 |
298. Thanks, but it really was a selfish reply closer to 1000 posts |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
280. I'll add to #32 |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #280 |
288. Good point. I try but don't always succeed. n/t |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #280 |
322. That's funny. |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
282. I'll add to #32 |
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348. The problems of talking about Privilege |
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