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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:01 PM
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Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck and Joe Scarborough have said much worse things
about the Clintons than David Schuster.

How come they didn't get suspended???
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:02 PM
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1. The candidates may be fair game
But their children are not.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:04 PM
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2. She's a 27 year old woman working for her mother's campaign.
She's fair game. If she were still a teenager no, but at this point, she is.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:17 PM
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10. Sorry
I'm a big Shuster fan but he was out of order. Notice he never used the words 'pimped out' for Huckabee and Romney's children. None of the MSM hacks used that term for Bush's daughters.

I'm no Hillary fan, but few politicians have been dissed by MSM like the Clintons. Enough!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:45 AM
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25. I agree
I'm sick of the attitude that it's OK to dis the Clinton's more than anybody else.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:14 PM
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8. It's not just the attack ... it's the SEXIST and VULGAR manner of the attack ---
which was intended not only to make Chelsea look foolish but her parents, as well ---

This was two birds with one stone ---
and hard to believe spontaneous comment ---


But these are people GE/NBC hires or asks on as guests ---
they know what these people are all about ---
you put them on mike and wait for the garbage to spill out ---

And, I'm amazed that there is anyone here trying to defend the garbage ---!!!
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:22 PM
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13. I agree. Sexism and misogyny seem to run rampant on MSNBC. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:24 PM
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14. Not by accident . . . that's for sure --- !!!! These are the people GE hires ---
Buchanan's long sexist, racist, homophobic career was sponsored by GE ---

GE is more right-wing than the John Birch Society ---

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MJJLWolf2 Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:09 PM
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3. Because they need to protect Tweety.
And #2: Queen Hillary lives on drama and division.

She saw an oppurtunity and went for it. We were all duped. What's new? When will Dems wake up and realize the Clintons don't care about progressive ideas. The Clintons only care about themselves.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:27 AM
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17. isn't that what repukes say?
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 05:29 AM by Skittles
why yes it is!!!!!
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:09 PM
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4. what did they say?
can you provide the actual quotes?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:20 PM
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11. ....
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:22 AM
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16. no - I meant, what did Tucker, Scarbrough and Beck say?
I agree they are cretins, but what comments are you comparing to Schuster's?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:24 AM
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21. Tucker, Beck
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 08:27 AM by RamboLiberal
On the July 16 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, discussing presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), producer Willie Geist described a Clinton doll being advertised at the website HillaryNutcracker.com that features "serrated stainless steel thighs that, well, crack nuts," according to Geist. He introduced the story by saying, "I think the metaphor in this next story, Tucker, is pretty clear. So I will just report the straight facts." He later asked, "What do you think they're saying about Hillary?" Host Tucker Carlson replied, "I have often said, when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs."

Carlson made a similar comment on the July 9 edition of Tucker in a conversation with MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan, during which Carlson said of Clinton, "She scares me. I cross my legs every time she talks." Later in the July 9 program, Geist asked Carlson, "Tucker, do you really cross your legs when Hillary Clinton talks?" Carlson replied, "Every time, involuntarily. It is like those pictures you see of the soccer goalie when they're about to get the free kick. That's me when she talks. I can't help it."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009

On the March 15 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Glenn Beck said: "Hillary Clinton cannot be elected president because ... there's something about her vocal range." He went on to say, "There's something about her voice that just drives me -- it's not what she says, it's how she says it," adding, "She is like the stereotypical -- excuse the expression, but this is the way to -- she's the stereotypical bitch, you know what I mean?" Beck also asked: "fter four years, don't you think every man in America will go insane?" and pleaded, "I'm sorry for being such a pig. But please, America. Please. I don't think I could do it for four years. I mean, sure the country is going to go to hell in a handbasket, but could we make this about me for a second? I just don't think I could take it from her." He also said that "there is a range in women's voices that experts say is just the chalk, I mean, the fingernails on the blackboard."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703150011

And I bet there is a lot more.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:12 PM
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5. Of course they do -- that's why GE/NBC/MSNBC hires them and keeps them on ---!!!
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:12 PM
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6. This raises the bar for all.
Future insulting language from all pundits shall be punished as per Schuster. If he is fired, as it seems the Clintons are pushing for, then that will be the go-forward rule for all, at least at MSNBC. It is up to us to see that it will be so.

Let them make new rules, but let them live by them. It's that second part that will be the most inconvenient for those at the top (as usual).
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:13 PM
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7. with my mom hat on..let me scratch my head and tell you what i always told my children
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 06:13 PM by flyarm
while raising them...


TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT..........

i will stand by that.

fly
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:16 PM
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9. Carlson, Beck & Scarborough are Republicans
so, that makes their comments ok.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:21 PM
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12. lol
i think you're onto something here, Jeff

:)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 06:25 PM
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15. They are employees of NBC/GE/MSNBC and we should note that --- and not accept this crap !!!
Turn off your TVs, folks --- !!!

You're only getting garbage delivered thru them ---
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:01 AM
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18. The Shuster Suspension Was A Warning Shot...
You forgot to mention Tweety in the Clinton bashing...

The political winds are turning and so are the rating winds. MSNBC has seen their ratings rise over the past two years...mostly on the back of Keith Olbermann...but also as being seen as the "fairest" of the networks. The brass at NBC are making money off the increased ratings and they don't want to mess up a good thing. This was a warning shot at all at the network to keep their tongues in check...enough is enough.

The sad problem is for nearly 15 years, the corporate media has portrayed the Clintons is broadbrushes...Bill as the slick womanizer, Hillary as the manipulative shrew...and they assume that we all agree on this characterization. It's time to stop this crap...the Clenis "jokes" and outright slandering of these people by the chattering class...while they would never go after a booooshie twin...that's not "fair game". As they say, IOKIYAR...

:hi:
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:14 AM
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19. Shuster is not the best presenter of his own reporting.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 08:15 AM by mwb970
I like The Dave a lot, and I respect the depth of his reporting, but I have noticed a certain amount of verbal sloppiness in his on-air conversation. He throws out other (less) inappropriate phrases on a regular basis.

Shuster also has a verbal tic that causes him to say "sort of" once or twice in every sentence when he is off-script and giving his opinion. In fact, if you read the actual quote of what he said this time, it was “Doesn’t it seem as if Chelsea is sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?” That's one "sort of" and one "some weird sort of" in a single sentence. There's also a "seem", and the comment is worded as a question as if he is uncertain about it. That's a lot of qualifiers in one sentence!

I think Shuster is uncomfortable stating certain facts or opinions directly and straightforwardly, hence the many "sort ofs". He was probably mortified to discover that he inadvertently offended someone.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:23 AM
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20. I do wonder why they never called out McCain on his joke
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

I don't think there was any audio or video of it .... still.

And of course Clinton kind of buddied up to McCain. Well if Hillary ends up the nominee McCain better watch his mouth. He could easily slip. And he should've been called out on the "bitch" comment when he didn't say boo to the questioner on it.

At a campaign event in South Carolina, a McCain backer stood up to ask the senator, “How do we beat the bitch?”

In response, McCain said, “We have our differences with our Democratic rivals, but I believe in treating people with respect. It’s why I don’t refer to women as ‘bitches,’ even when I disagree with them. I’m sure all of us believe we can debate the serious issues of the day without name-calling and degrading language.”


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13582.html


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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:16 AM
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22. I like David alot..
.. even more knowing that he came from FAUX News.

He's always been kind'a nerdy to me and says things trying to be hip. Maybe he used the wrong comparison, I don't know, but to me pimping out isn't offensive at all.

Stupid of MSNBC to suspend him and if Hillary is pissed or won't go on debates there because of that comment, so be it. She can go hang with her bud Murdoch on FAUX.

Shoot, worse things have een said about other president and candidate's kids.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:30 AM
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23. "They all do it" shouldn't be an excuse for bad behavior.
GE is a Corporation. It's time they did some diversity training for their management. But, then, we all know about GE and their corporate policies from the environmental lawsuits. Makes sense that the "fish rots from the head," in GE's case.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:36 AM
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24. That doesn't justify what he said
It was wrong, and you know it.

Should we promote this sort of journalism just because a more liberal reporter was punished for saying something utterly inappropriate?

We all know that liberals have a higher standard for their reporters than Republicans do. Should we lower our standards to protect one person? Should appalling sexist remarks now be OK? Schuster is a good reporter, not just another hack - let's keep it that way.
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