Is the Secret Service obligated to "protect" the President from

[rzemanfl]

a lawful arrest for war crimes? Here? Overseas?

[SDuderstadt]

1. He can't be arrested without being impeached and convicted first...

read the constitution.

[rzemanfl]

6. Assuming that's true, other countries would be obligated to

follow our constitution because?

[Pavulon]

8. Because an attempt to detain ANY sitting president

in an foreign nation would end in an exchange of gunfire. At MINIMUM. Reality check time.

[rzemanfl]

9. So what you are saying is "protect" goes beyond physical

protection. If any sitting President is going to be detained in a foreign nation, it's the fraud who pretends to hold the office at present.

[Pavulon]

13. You are looking at a piece of bark..

the forrest is simple. A sitting president will be offered diplomatic protection while in any nation. If at any time a presidents safety or freedom of movement os impeded they service will use all means, including deadly force, to ensure his safety.

Really simple. There is no nation that is going to say, arrest a sitting president. Will never happen.

[fenriswolf]

19. will not arrest a president without a shoot out you mean.

[MADem]

14. He's our DIPLOMAT in Chief, too. Under Diplomatic and Status of Forces Agreements that

our State Department has worked out with other nations, we don't arrest their guys, and they don't arrest ours.

It's why a diplomat can run over a twenty year old in Dupont Circle and get away with it. It's why our guys can do the same shit, and the worst that happens is they get sent home.

[ConcernedCanuk]

21. I am always amazed at this "Diplomatic Immunity" shit - it's gone too far

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Breaking the laws of another country that hosts you is not forgivable IMHO

If we can't accept their rules, then just don't go there

But I'm just a simple Canuk,

Whadda I know . . .

[MADem]

22. Simple Canuks in the Canadian Diplomatic Corps enjoy the same benefit.

It's important, because it stops governments from fucking with diplomats for BS reasons. Most diplomats stay out of trouble. The ones that get into trouble are sent home.

[Xenotime]

18. They don't have to..so they could arrest

[rzemanfl]

10. Consitutional scholars disagree on this point as to violations of

U.S. law. I'm glad you're so sure of yourself though.

[L. Coyote]

11. Precedent would advise that a foriegn authority just kidnap. It has been upheld in US courts

when we do it elsewhere :rofl:

[rzemanfl]

12. They could hold him for ransom and we could pay them to

keep him.

[L. Coyote]

20. LOL I knew it would be funny! Do onto others in law making as you would have others do.....

[fenriswolf]

2. from what I gather

protection of their "ward" is a fetish to the utmost magnitude. They are willing to take a bullet to him, I think his heath, wellbeing and freedom are their priorities, not adhering to the law.

[More Than A Feeling]

4. Is that psychologically healthy?

I wonder if they've ever had to give former agents special therapy to get rid of that kind of attachment?

[thunder rising]

3. Nobody will grab him while he's in office, but after that the SS will not break a law.

[ReadTomPaine]

5. "When the Secret Service breaks the law to protect The Bubble"

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14279.html

This article touches on some of your concerns, I think.

[rzemanfl]

7. I am surprised they didn't charge the guy who told Cheney to

fuck himself.

[WillowTree]

15. You've got that backwards, too.

It was Cheney who said it. To Patrick Leahy.

[rzemanfl]

17. Here's a link to what I was talking about:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/hurricanekatrina/v/cheneyfyourself.htm

It shows the video of Cheney being shouted at.

[rzemanfl]

16. No, this was later, after the Leahy thing. There was video of it

back in '05.