If Bush Attacks Iran

[SoFlaJet]

would it partly be Mrs. Clinton's fault for supporting (Kyl/LIEberman) what in essence to the Bush Administration's thinking is an authorization for use of force. Or...would she deny having ANY IDEA that they would use it as such? Does anyone know how Obama voted on that bill?

[Windy]

1. Absolutely! I went to a lecture given by Scott Ritter and others

He thinks Bush will do it either in June or in the fall. He believes that it will be massive airstrikes launched from inside Iraq... to comply with the language of Kyl/Lieberman.

[SoFlaJet]

3. and

would or SHOULD she be partly to blame if it happens

[Windy]

6. Yes, she should! no question. n/t

[indepat]

11. Wonder if any retaliation (terraist attack(s)) should be anticipated in response to such massive

air strikes and wonder if such massive air strikes would likely produce any collateral damage? Moreover, would such massive air strikes and any anticipated retaliatory response likely create the conditions for martial law being invoked, the 23+ thousand brown-type shirts being sicked on the public, and national elections being canceled, thus the official crowning of King and Emperor Junior. Naw, surely they would not do that, but such would be enough to make one wonder. :shrug:

Edited to add word

[demnan]

2. Obama was a no-show

for that vote.

[Windy]

7. She made it a point of showing up to vote FOR it!!!

I was going to pass anyway no matter what. She chose to go out of her way to support it.

Evidence of BAD judgment! More of the same from her.

[readmoreoften]

20. Great so we have a warmonger and a cowardly triangulator. I'm so excited to vote. /nt

[dflprincess]

14. Do we know why he didn't show?

It's not impossible he had a good reason, it's also possible he didn't. And, if he didn't it's as bad, if not worse, than Clinton voting for it - at least she took a position however stupid it was. But, before I start foaming at the mouth over Obama not being there, I want to know why.

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. how could NOT voting on the bill possibly be worse than

actually voting FOR it?

[dflprincess]

18. If he didn't vote on the bill because he was just avoiding taking a postion

that would show a lack of spine. (Again, I'm not saying this is why Obama missed the vote - I want to know why he missed it before I make any judgements.)

[RaleighNCDUer]

24. We do not live in a binary world.

Sometimes there are answers other than 'yes' or 'no'. No answer at is is also an answer.

[dflprincess]

25. Not on a bill like Kyl/Liebermann

and especially not without any explanation of why no vote was cast.

[RaleighNCDUer]

26. Let me rephrase that:

Most of us don't live in a binary world.

I, for one, can't get into the mind set of "If you're not for us, you're against us".

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Which means, he did NOT vote FOR it.

Nuff said.

[readmoreoften]

19. So if I don't vote for Obama does that mean I voted for him because I said I would?

I'll be sure to do that if he gets the nod against McCain...

"nuff said."

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. No, it means you did not vote for him. Nor did you vote for McCain.

What you are saying is that not voting for him IS voting for McCain. A logical infeasibility.

[ixion]

4. It would be any congress person who supported the IWR, Kyl / LIEberman and

all the funding resolutions. They are all responsible, because anyone who was paying attention could see what was going on.

[SoFlaJet]

8. one has to wonder

what a certain senator from NY's excuse will be THIS time...John Edwards said it would be naive for ANY senator to vote for it with knowing past history

[Windy]

9. another disgusting POLITICAL vote that could potentially cost lives

both american and iranian...and maybe more if the war extends beyond the borders of Iran/Iraq!

[readmoreoften]

22. So. In other words. He hid. He didn't make a stand.

Just like he hides behind the troops for further authorizing the war. Great. Congrats. Your candidate appears to be the least bad. Or so it seems.

[Subdivisions]

5. I've decided that they are all just one large and powerful

entity that has an agenda that we have little say in. The rest is semantics.

[SoFlaJet]

10. oh but we DO have a say TE

we can either decide to support candidates that vote pro war or not-I choose the latter

[readmoreoften]

21. Right, Obama's not going to support a war.

:eyes:

Yeah, he just wants to expand our military presence around the world and saber-rattle against Pakistan for the hell of it. Talk about an opportunistic move.

[LSK]

12. Obama did not vote

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00349

And Edwards lectured Hillary on this vote in a few of the debates.

[Truth2Tell]

13. I think Biden and others

have effectively prevented us from starting this with their threats of impeachment.

Israel is going to start it instead, although the plan (or hope) may be to drag us into it. Just listen to that freak show John Bolton.

[LSK]

15. the NIE killed it pretty good