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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:01 AM
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Clint Eastwood: Ann Coulter, others, 'masochistic'
Clint Eastwood, actor, film director and producer and himself a smalltown mayor, sees a sense of masochism in the Republicans -- like Ann Coulter -- who say they cannot support John McCain's bid for the White House.

-snip-
In an interview with FOX Business Network’s Neil Cavuto live from Pebble Beach, Calif., at the site of the AT&T National Pro-Am Golf Tournament aired this evening, Eastwood talks politics.

Eastwood has this to say about Ann Coulter’s claim that she would vote for Hillary Clinton over John McCain: "Conservatives, often times, are very masochistic. They say, 'I’d rather not show up than have so-and-so. If it’s not my guy then I won’t show up’. You can’t be that way.”

http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/clint_eastwood_ann_coulter_oth.html

I don't quite get where he's going with that train of thought. But if conservatives are being masochistic when they say "no one but my candidate," then what are liberals being? Sadistic?

:rofl:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:03 AM
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1. It's funny, I've seen a lot of what Clint says right here at DU.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:15 AM
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6. I know
I've stopped voting in the "If you support X will you vote for Z if s/he is the nominee" polls because...yeah. I'm a Dem. This is Dem Underground. I'm the base, I vote Dem - must you ask?

But apparently for some it's still a challenge figuring out where their best interests lie.

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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:39 AM
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2. Excellent advice from Clint Eastwood
"They say, 'I’d rather not show up than have so-and-so. If it’s not my guy then I won’t show up’. You can’t be that way.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:16 AM
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3. He's right,and what he said doesn't apply just to Republicans
When we do the same, all we do is go ahead, and make their day.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:24 AM
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4. As a very liberal person, my opposition to corporatist candidates in a rigged system...
Isn't indicative of masochism or sadism - just common sense. If I'd like to see specific ideas, approaches and policies enacted by our rep govt for the benefit of all instead of the benefit of centralized corporate/state power, and I know that the "electable" {code} candidates absolutely will not have anything to do with what I think would help humanity, then how is it a fault of mine to not support them and what they stand for and represent?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:19 AM
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7. If you don't support the candidate that closest resembles your ideals
then you empower the one furthest away from your ideals. this is not a vacuum. You can't expet to walk away from the election because your version of Mr. Perfect isn't up for election, and have no consequences. The consequences are that the candidate who is completely diametrically opposed to everything you stand for is the one that wins, and you helped him win.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:35 AM
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8. You're so reasonable
How on earth do you survive? ;)

:hi:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:20 AM
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12. You're assuming I don't hold my nose with the rest and vote for the lesser evil
I have before ... can't say for sure if I will again.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:34 AM
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14. That's exactly what I'm assuming
That's what I gathered from your post. If that's not what you meant, I mininterpreted it and I apologize. But it does apply still to the people here who claim they will now refuse to vote because their guy didn't make it this far.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:41 AM
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10. Give me a break! Your so righteous! Don't vote but stop complaining because you haven't earned the
right!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:18 AM
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11. Was that directed at me? If so, since when do you decide who has "rights" to complain?
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:31 AM
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13. There are no perfect candidates. We all can hope that there will be someone running who will win
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 11:32 AM by Mountainman
and who will make the world the way we want it to be. That will never happen. What will happen in a less than perfect Dem and a repub will run for president. If the repub gets more electoral votes that person will call the shots for the next four years. If you could have done something to lesson that chance and don't. IMHO you take yourself out of the game. Since you don't play the game you shouldn't complain about the players.

Just stay on the sidelines hoping for mister or miss perfect then vote.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:37 AM
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15. If you were familiar with my posts, you'd know I detest the "hero/leader" mythos
That keeps people foolishly believing that repeating the same processes over and over will ever actually do any good. It's my view that "voting" isn't going to save us from the tyranny of centralized corporate/state power.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:49 AM
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16. Voting may not save us but not voting surely will not save us!
There's no guarantees that if you vote things will get better but if we all were to pass this November it surely will not get better. You can have your way simply because most others will vote which gives you the room to do as you wish.

I've learned that lesson a long time ago. Those fighting today will not see the fruits of their efforts but fight for those that come after them.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:21 PM
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17. how long must the lessons of the 2000 election be ignored?
:shrug:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:25 AM
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5. Dupe
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 08:26 AM by Echo In Light
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:39 AM
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9. I've heard many DUers say they won't vote if certain persons are the nominee.
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 10:40 AM by Mountainman
So I guess masochism works both ways.

If it were Nov and the elections were held today and a Dem who could have voted Dem but instead stayed home, he/she gave a better chance to the Repuke. I hope the repukes stay home and we get smart and all get the hell out and vote for the Dem! If we all voted the right wouldn't have a chance even if they tried to steal the election. I think that's why they failed in 2006.
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