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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:01 PM
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The Unending Torture of 15-year old Omar Khadr
Legal proceedings by the U.S. government against Omar Khadr earlier this week, along with the long horrible story associated with those proceedings, illustrate a great amount about how far our country has descended from the humane ideals that our government and most American citizens profess to believe in:


The capture and imprisonment of Omar Khadr

Omar Khadr, a Canadian citizen, was captured by the U.S. military in Afghanistan in July 2002 at the age of 15. The U.S. Army had surrounded a compound containing Afghani fighters and ordered them to surrender. When they refused, an intense bombing campaign commenced. Following the bombing, as U.S. soldiers entered the compound a hand grenade was thrown by one of the surviving Afghanis, and one U.S. soldier was killed. By the time the consequent firefight ended, Omar Khadr was the only Afghani fighter remaining alive. He was taken into U.S. Army custody, labeled an “unlawful enemy combatant”, and sent to a prison in Afghanistan. In November 2002 he was transferred to Guantanamo Bay.

Here is a picture of him:


An article in Rolling Stone, titled “The Unending Torture of Omar Khadr”, describes some of his ordeal. This is a small sample from the 9 page article:

While he was at Guantanamo, Omar was beaten in the head, nearly suffocated, threatened with having his clothes taken indefinitely and, as at Bagram, lunged at by attack dogs while wearing a bag over his head…

When he was not being tortured or held in isolation, Omar spent virtually every waking minute of his captivity at Guantanamo alone in his cell


The torture of children under the Bush administration

Torture of detainees held in prisons operated under the auspices of the George W. Bush administration has been very common since Bush commenced his “War on Terror”.

Whatever restraints may exist against the torture of children, the torture of Omar Khadr is not at all unique in that respect: Just recently, Bush legal advisor John Yoo argued publicly that there is no law that can prevent the President from ordering the torture of children; video evidence exists of the torture of Iraqi children in our jails in Iraq; and former President Jimmy Carter discusses this issue in his book, “Our Endangered Values” (page 119-20):

After visiting six of the twenty five or so U.S. prisons, the International Committee of the Red Cross reported registering 107 detainees under the age of eighteen, some as young as eight years old…. The international Red Cross, Amnesty International, and the Pentagon have gathered substantial testimony of torture of children, confirmed by soldiers who witnessed or participated in the abuse….

Children like this eleven-year old have been denied the right to see their parents, a lawyer, or anyone else, and were not told why they were detained…


Legal proceedings against Omar Khadr demonstrate terrible holes in our “justice” system

After rotting in U.S. prisons for five and a half years, legal proceedings were held earlier this week to consider several charges against Khadr, including murder, attempted murder, conspiring with enemies of the United States, and providing material support to terrorists. These proceedings have thus far demonstrated several severe problems with the current U.S. system of “justice”, including the following:

Prosecutors claim that Khadr conspired with al Qaeda for five years. That would make him ten years old when he began his “conspiring”. He was initially taken to Afghanistan by his father. Government prosecutors have not even acknowledged the possibility that the association of a ten-year old boy with alleged terrorists may not have been completely voluntary. Prosecutors claim that under the Military Commissions Act of 2006, our government’s military commissions have jurisdiction over alleged “enemy combatants” of any age and that age provides no restraints against use of the death penalty.

The use of secret evidence (which the defense is not allowed to access) is another big problem with justice under the Military Commissions Act. Prosecutors claimed proof that Khadr had “murdered” the U.S. soldier noted above, by virtue of the fact that Khadr was the only Afghani survivor at the time that the U.S. soldier was “murdered”. However, a document that contradicted that allegation was mistakenly passed out to observers during the hearing on Monday. That document showed that Khadr was in fact not the only surviving Afghani soldier at the time that U.S. soldiers entered the compound.

This also exemplifies the absurdity of George Bush’s designation of “unlawful enemy combatant” – a designation that he uses to avoid having to comply with Geneva Convention requirements for the treatment of prisoners-of-war. The so-called “murder” of the American soldier was no murder. Clearly, he was killed during combat – vastly uneven combat that was heavily weighted in favor of the U.S. Army. Khadr was no “enemy combatant”. International law clearly designates him as a prisoner-of-war. The U.S. government was legally bound to provide him all the protections required for prisoners-of-war under the Geneva Conventions. But even if he could legitimately be classified as something other than a prisoner-of-war, the UN Convention Against Torture mandates that Khadr should have received infinitely better treatment than he did.

Although an amendment was tacked on to the Military Commissions Act that prohibited torture, George Bush promptly signed a “signing statement” that said he “will view the interrogation limits in the context of his broader powers to protect national security.”
The Military Commissions Act allows the use of “evidence” obtained under torture prior to December 30, 2005, irrespective of the fact that experts agree that evidence obtained under torture is notoriously unreliable.

Here is a recording made by Amnesty International of a commentary on the above issues by one of Amnesty’s legal observers at Monday’s hearing.


Considering Khadr’s “war crimes” in perspective – comparing to the activities of Blackwater USA

I find it terribly ironic and sad that George Bush’s government has charged a 15-year old (or 10-year old) boy with war crimes. Let’s consider some of the activities of the Bush administration’s favorite mercenary soldier corporation, Blackwater USA.

On September 16th, 2007, Blackwater forces protecting a U.S. State Department official opened fire on an Iraqi vehicle. The incident is described in The Nation by Jeremy Scahill:

Inside the vehicle was… a young Iraqi family – man, woman and infant – whose crime appeared to be panicking in a chaotic traffic situation… Gunfire rang out in Nisour Square as people fled for their lives. Witnesses described a horrifying scene of indiscriminate shooting by the Blackwater guards. In all, as many as 28 Iraqis may have been killed…

Blackwater’s version of events is hotly disputed, not only by the Iraqi government, which says it has video to prove the shooting was unprovoked, but also by survivors of the attack. “I saw women and children jump out of their cars and start to crawl on the road to escape being shot,” said Iraqi lawyer Hassan Jabar Salman… I saw a boy of about 10 leaping in fear from a minibus – he was shot in the head. His mother was crying out for him. She jumped out after him, and she was killed.”

Or consider Scahill’s description of some Blackwater activities during their response to Hurricane Katrina, from his book, “Blackwater – The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army”:

The company beat the federal government and most aid organizations to the scene as 150 heavily armed Blackwater troops dressed in full battle gear spread out into the chaos of New Orleans… All of them were heavily armed – some with M-4 automatic weapons… What was desperately needed was food, water, and housing. Instead what poured in fastest were guns. Lots of guns.

In addition to its work guarding private companies, banks, hotels, industrial sites, and rich individuals, Blackwater was quietly handed a major no-bid contract… Instead of a serious government relief operation in New Orleans, the forces that most rapidly mobilized were the Republican-connected corporations…

A possibly deadly incident involving hired guns underscored the dangers of private forces policing American streets… The security guard said their convoy came under fire from “black gangbangers”… The guard said he and his men were armed with AR-15s and Glocks and that they unleashed a barrage of bullets in the general direction of the alleged shooters on the overpass. “After that, all I heard was moaning and screaming, and the shooting stopped.”

As countless guns poured into New Orleans, there was a distinct absence of relief operations, food, and water distribution…

Well, you get the picture. No charges were ever brought against Blackwater for the civilian deaths in Iraq or in New Orleans. A whole different standard of justice is used for Bush corporate donors as compared to 15-year old Muslim boys.


The U.S. Senate to vote on torture

The U.S. House of Representatives recently voted for an amendment to the Intelligence Authorization conference report that would require all interrogations carried out under the auspices of the U.S. government to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual with regard to torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners. With the recent confirmation of the use of waterboarding by the CIA, combined with the refusal of Attorney General Mucasey to admit that waterboarding is torture, a Senate vote that supports the House amendment is critical to stopping our continued use of torture. Therefore, Amnesty International urges us to “write your Senator and ask that he or she vote to end the use of interrogation techniques that amount to torture or ill-treatment.” Their proposed letter or e-mail says in part:

Over the past six years, the images of torture, the government memos redefining torture, and the public debates about the legality of specific interrogation techniques that have long been understood to be torture have done irreparable harm to the United States reputation and leadership abroad…

Revelations of the destruction of videotapes of the interrogation of two “high value” detainees in 2002 by the CIA has renewed the importance of legislating the parameters of CIA interrogation techniques….

Congress has taken significant steps to restore U.S. leadership and rectify the U.S. practices to prevent torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment by passing the Detainee Treatment Act. I urge you to support this important provision to close the CIA loophole and ensure uniform interrogation standards for everyone in U.S. custody. This clear statement can begin to repair the damage done by the public debates about insidious forms of torture…

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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:04 PM
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1. This is awful.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:30 PM
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28. Yes, it most definitely is
What makes it all the more awful is that this is no isolated case. It appears that this is happening to thousands of U.S. prisoners, maybe tens of thousands since George Bush began his "War on Terror":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2211837
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:04 PM
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2. Grrrecommended.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:07 PM
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3. And here's the REALLY hilarious part...
Britney Spears will still get more copy in American mainstream media than the plight of Omar Khadr ever will.

That's my prediction, and I hope to God that I'm proved wrong, because my heart is groaning right now.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:49 PM
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33. No doubt your prediction will be correct
The US corporate news media doesn't even consider the death toll of Iraqi civilians from our war to be the least bit important. I have never heard them even mention it. Maybe they're afraid that it would make some people feel guilty if they knew that we've killed over a million civilians there.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:09 PM
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4. Omar Khadr is a case that is inexcusable........
Moreover, I would like to point out that the gentleman who found Khadr shot a wounded man and then shot Khadr twice IN THE BACK.

The fact that he did so is a war crime; you don't kill the wounded and you don't shoot kids who may be non-combattants in the back according to international law.

Sorry guys, it's just more war crimes...and Khadr isn't the perpetrator.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:24 PM
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36. It reminds me of the Bush's reference to the "terrorists" we are fighting in Iraq
We invade a nation that poses no danger to us, and then we define anyone who defends their country against us as "terrorists".
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 03:09 PM
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37. Worse than the label of terrorists
Is the fact that the government founded and funded the taliban, al Quaeda, AND The Northern Alliance.....who are now being labelled terrorist organizations.

I've been accused of being "anti-American" so often it's becoming true. However, lookng carefully and with clear eyes at what the US has been doing around the world makes it very difficult to support those actions.

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:13 PM
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5. ironically, your post features the pic of a congresswoman who knew about
waterboarding, and said nothing. NOTHING and did NOTHING.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:33 PM
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7. But Tom J, the woman in tht picture has had far more
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 11:35 PM by truedelphi
National Security information made privy to her - than to you or me.

She has obviously been scared witless about the fact that this fifteen year ol Al Queda could attack New york at any time.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:55 PM
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8. If you're referring to Nancy Pelosi, that 's not who my avatar is
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:22 AM
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12. Barbara Boxer, right? A woman of integrity, in my view. nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:12 AM
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14. Yes
The only US Senator (as far as I've heard) to advocate for the impeachment of the most lawless presidential administration in our history:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/24602

And the only US Senator to contest the 2004 election:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0106-02.htm
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:09 PM
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31. Let us clone her! nt
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:24 PM
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21. sorry, i did think it was Nancy, and my mistake.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:38 PM
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30. No problem
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:33 PM
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6. Shame on Canada for doing nothing for one of their own.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:47 AM
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18. shame on Canada is right.
We have ignored Khadr, and we are ignoring the plight of war resisters in Canada. We have also joined the US in criminalizing war resisters.

I'm disgusted with this admnistration, both here and there, and am hoping that the Liberals are able to bring down the government over the budget; Dionne seems to be willing to do so.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:01 AM
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9. K & R
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:36 AM
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10. Jesus fucking Christ.
The poor kid.

Jesus Christ.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:53 PM
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35. It's so sad and so shameful
Yet there is so much resistance by Americans to facing up to what our nation has become

:cry:
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:41 AM
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11. I`m ashamed at what we`ve become.
It sickens me.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:26 AM
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13. Blackwater: The war crimes brigade, and beloved of the Bush administration.
Brown shirts, wearing black this season. They are equally to be feared abroad and here at home.

Another revealing and instructive article. Thanks TFC!
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:50 PM
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24. Thank you puebloknot -- What makes this even worse is that the Bush administration
has ruled that they (or any other war profiteers... I mean contracters) cannot be prosecuted for crimes by the Iraqi government. I suppose that it is theoretically possible that our government could prosecute them for war crimes, that that is something that our thoroughly politicized Bush administration Justice Department would not even think of doing. Nor would they think of prosecuting them for any crimes committed on U.S. soil.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 06:14 PM
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32. They're all drinking from the same cup. And besides, they're relying on...
...the biblical injunction that says: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

It's not nice to fu*k with Holy Writ! Otherwise, I assume they'd be about the business of bringing democracy to the New World!
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:56 AM
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15. Our politicians don't care. nt
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:14 AM
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16. Why Has the International Community Not Imposed Sanctions Against the US?
Cut off trade?
Cut off oil?

Established and embargo?

Something!!

Not trying to pass the buck of responsibility, that lies squarely on our (we the people) shoulders but I'm kind of surprised at the general lack of outrage.

Maybe there is outrage and I don't see it. I don't have a TV, and get 99% of my news online. The M$M probably wouldn't deem any outrage abroad newsworthy over here.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:27 AM
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17. There IS outrage, but not enough
I think that the international community would be happy to impose sanctions on us. The problem IMO is that our country is just too powerful, and individual nations are afraid to antagonize us. They recognize that the Bush administration is vindictive and they are afraid of incurring its wrath.

But if we continue on our present course much longer, anti-American opinion will continue to increase. As that happens, and as our power wanes, I believe that eventually the world would unite against us and begin to take actions. I would hope that they do if we continue like this. Hopefully things will change a good deal with the election of a new president.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:54 AM
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19. did anyone see the right wing talk show host (don't know his name)
on tv yesterday re: waterboarding?

"Hell yeah, we should waterboard, we should torture. If it saves one American life, do it, I encourage it."

Dude, where's my country?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 12:23 PM
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20. "Hell yeah, we should waterboard, we should torture. If it saves one American life, do it."
I didn't see that, but whoever said it is an idiot and is advocating war crimes.

I believe in freedom of speech, but there are legitimate limits to it. I think that at the point where people publicly advocate war crimes, responsible news media should not allow that on their news broadcasts. The fact that that occurs is an indication of how far our corporate news media has descended into irresponsibility.

Furthermore, our use of torture does not save American lives, to the contrary, it arouses intense anti-American hatred, increases the likelihood that our own soldiers will be tortured when caught, and contributes to the recruiting of anti-American terrorists.
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ConcernedUS itizen Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:33 PM
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22. War on Terror
I think that you should also remember that these children locked up are not innocents. They were captured commiting acts against our military or commiting other actions against the countries have missions in. Regardless of what you think of the war in Iraq or the War in Afghanistan, these childern can be dangerous. Who are we suppose to release this child to? Back in the the same hands that gave him a weapon to fight against his own country, so he can wound harm or kill those that are innocent. After you have been there, then come talk about the horrors. Did you know that a church gave clothing to a small village and that every person wearing those clothes was killed and it is children such as this one that are raised in a close minded society bent on the destruction of everthing you hold dear.

Sure we should have some independant sources insuring that we do the right thing, but do not forget this is a war and that child may very well be the one that kills you.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:40 PM
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23. "These children are not innocents. They were captured commiting acts against our military "
Committing acts against our military, right. That's called war. If country A invades country B, and soldiers from country B commit "acts against country A's military", those are acts of war. People who commit such acts and who are captured are designated prisoners-of war, according to the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is a signatory. Prisoners-of-war are required to be treated with a modicum of decency, which George Bush has refused to do. If we refuse to do that, our soldiers can be expected to be treated in similar ways when they are captured.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:19 PM
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26. How the hell do you know?
Who the hell are you to say that these children aren't innocents? Did you witness them committing these acts? Do you condone the torture of these people? I assume you HAVE been there, or else wouldn't have the hubris to make such a boneheaded comment. It seems to me that you're advocating the wholesale disregard for the Geneva Conventions.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 03:29 PM
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27. Reading your post again...
I'm even less sure of your ability to put together an even somewhat cohesive argument. Why the hell are you talking about a murderous church? Even if what you say is true (which I highly doubt, kind of sounds like a stupid republican urban legend to me), what the hell does it have to do with the OP? Being the good 'itizen' that you are, can I ask you what brought you here to this site? You should know that what you are advocating will lead to the death and torture of American citizens (aka the only ones you give a damn about).
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 04:37 PM
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29. Nothing? Nothing?
Do you care to defend your post in the slightest? Or did you go through all the trouble of creating an account just to post that single ignorant comment? I'm amazed you can talk about 'close minded' societies without laughing. Let's roll indeed.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:55 PM
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25. Inhumane actions like this which are traceable right back to
the commander-in-chief and his Vice President is why Nancy Pelosi has to allow impeachment of these criminals to happen. We need investigations into their illegal policies if this nation is ever to regains some stature as a world power with principles. Other than that America and Americans abroad will be in grave danger for some time to come.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:53 PM
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34. Damn right
The longer we wait before holding these criminals accountable the more difficult it's going to be. If we don't hold them accountable how are future Congresses going to justify the need to hold future criminal presidential administrations accountable. Our country is in a very precarious situation indeed, and I'm not at all certain that they will leave voluntarily.
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