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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:38 PM
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Pat Buchannan sparked a thought for me ......
He was yakking at someone tonight ...... maybe KO? In any case, he postulated that one possible outcome of the internecine hatred of McCain would be a Ford-like candidacy and a Carter-like outcome. The country is in deep shit, he thought, and the Repubics could come roaring back in 2012, much as St. Ronald did in 80.

Taking that a step further, maybe **that's** the real source of the monumentally UnRepubicLike hatred of their presumptive nominee. Set Johnny up to lose and take things back in 2012 .....

..... maybe with another Bush?

Or maybe not. The reason they might be setting Johnny up to lose (they really do hate him) is that they KNOW Bush screwed the pooch beyond belief and they want the Dems to take the fall when the salami makes its way through the slicer over the next few years. And the Bush name just ain't Reagan.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:42 PM
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1. The first thing our new President should do...
is give as thorough an analysis of how fucked we are, and then outline their initial plans to mitigate the damage done by bush.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:29 PM
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11. good idea
a full bill of particulars. Start with Kucinich's bill of impeachment for background, and fill it in. The new president could request air time, and go down the list. Honestly, if something like that isn't done, Dems are fools.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:31 PM
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12. Ding! Precisely. Non-wonks have no idea just how effed up we are.
Start with a strong offense and it's very hard for them to overcome it.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:42 PM
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2. This has been suggested many time. Bush leaves a pile of shit and the next President
has to clean it up. To walk a fine line between progress and debt payment (which is our only way out) is going to take a very smart person. Barack is my choice on this alone. We don't need anymore saber rattling to force the world further away from us. We need a leader that can do a little sweet talking around the globe to keep them from foreclosing on our debt.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:42 PM
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3. That could turn out to be accurate!
Pat's one of those guys you love to hate. Even KO tonight, "Pat, I always agree with you for the first 4 minutes, it's the last 20 seconds where we disagree!" (paraphrased) Too funny!

Pat and Rachael Maddow get along great. Pat's an odd bird...
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:45 PM
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4. I was just thinking about Carter, but not in the same way....
I guess Pat gets to be on TV because he makes up preposterous analogies that are never accurate, enabling him to come on the next day with yet another preposterous analogy. Most of you don't want to know what I was thinking about Carter -- someone with great ideas but without the clout to realize them. One can draw one's own analogies to the current political scene.
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:48 PM
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5. Gotta love the 'let the Dems win and Americans will see just how
terrible they are' strategy. As if the past 7 years was good and the previous 8 were poor.:crazy:
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:49 PM
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6. Rush has actually said this on his show, but
he said the 'liberal' would screw it up so bad, they would win back Congress mid term then the White House in 4 years. He didn't blame the state of the nation on Bush, but on what a future 'liberal' President would do.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:00 PM
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9. Wow... that's mind blowing...
What kind of drugs does Rush have to be on to realize that not only the past but the future affect the present? What a trailblazer! I want whatever he's taking. :sarcasm:
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:49 PM
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7. Pat ain't my kinda guy...but he is smart, and when push comes to shove...
will generally have a crystaline analysis, whether you agree or not, whether he is totally right or not. He is always good to play the pit bull. But one thing you gotta remember about Pat...he's been around the power since the late '60s...wrote speeches for fuckin' Nixon...he knows what's up, and he knows his team can lose this game and still end up winning the Super Bowl for another 8 or 12 years if the Democrats can't fix the mess the NeoCons are leaving US. The Repubs DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO FIX THIS...the only thing they are truly worried about is the SCOTUS.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:49 PM
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8. If there are no trials and prosecution I will vote out
whoever is elected. If they don't restore the constitution, I will vote them out. The economy is going to tank and global climate change will get worse, if they don't set the record straight when whoever comes in they will justly deserve their fate.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 09:24 PM
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10. He's gonna tap Jeb as his VP and probably get the presidency... for a short time
until one of these rabid wingers that Rushco is whipping into a frenzy gets a lucky shot.

Presto!

President Bush #3

Look at MyPain's Advisers:

Henry Kissinger

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Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state, covert operative and lifelong Bush ally

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Robert “Bud” McFarlane, Reagan/Bush national security adviser, Iran, Contra

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William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard (neocon)

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Alexander Haig, Reagan/Bush secretary of state

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George Shultz, Reagan/Bush secretary of state, Hoover Institution, Bechtel

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Brent Scowcroft, Ford, George H.W. Bush national security adviser
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James Woolsey, former CIA director

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Lawrence Eagleburger, George H.W. Bush secretary of state

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William Ball, Reagan administration Navy secretary

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Colin Powell


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7...
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