If the Bornagain Xtians believe in the Rapture.....

[Tyler Durden]

...Then why do they care WHO gets elected?

Seems to ME that if they're headed for the Wild Blue Yonder any second, they should be a little more concerned about personally missing the bus, and less worried if there's Universal Health Care, Abortion, or the War. Wouldn't you think?

I mean REALLY. If they are going to LITERALLY be popped out of their clothes and go shooting up like a squeezed watermelon seed, then why should they give two shits WHO the president is?

This just hit me a minute or two ago. Sort of like the Rapture.

[silverweb]

1. What wonderful imagery!

"...popped out of their clothes and go shooting up like a squeezed watermelon seed...."

You just made my morning with that!

:rofl:

[GoneOffShore]

6. Some of the ones around here

You wouldn't want to see that!!

[dchill]

2. Right. And why do they care about ...

amending the Constitution when they can just follow the Bible?

[kestrel91316]

10. Well, actually, the very existence of the Constitution interferes with

their ability to follow the letter of the Bible.

Thank God.

[Warpy]

3. The thought of shooting up into the sky buck nekkid

in front of the rest of us and hearing the ensuing hilarity has probably put more than one of them off hoping the Rupture happens soon.

I know it would be a distinct deterrent to me.

[spoony]

4. Did I wander into R/T? What's with the surge of religion bashing in GD?

[Kajsa]

7. And it's not even the holiday season

when you see thread upon thread
bashing Christianity.

[pink-o]

26. No one's "Bashing" Christianity

...I personally think Jesus was a wonderful human being with all sorts of progressive ideas, like helping the poor and treating people as equals, and not judging those who're different than we are.

It's the Fundie followers of Jesus that I'll bash every opportunity I'm given. Because they are the enemy of enlightenment, and America has given them power and validation. They will keep as many people ignorant to science and reality as they can, and I consider that a dierct threat to the way I live.

[Kajsa]

32. I agree, Pinko.

The Fundies are heretics to me.


Matthew 6:5

- And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love
to stand and pray at the street corners, so that they
may be seen by others.

Even Matthew had them down, pat.

[Tyler Durden]

8. Not bashing ANYTHING.

Believe it or not, I'm completely serious here. I'm not trying to be funny.

If I believed that at any second God was going to take me off to Heaven, I'd be thinking about THAT and not worried what the Heathens down the street were doing.

Seriously.

So...why to they bother with politics at all? Seems all rather silly and pointless viewed through those lenses.

[Kajsa]

19. Good point,Tyler.

The born agains do believe in the Rapture where everything worldly is
left behind.

The only thing I can think of is-

They aren't really sure when that Rapture is going to occur.

They want to cover themselves until it does.

That's the only thing I can think of right now.

:shrug:

[FiveGoodMen]

20. They're trying to impress god with how much they hate the rest of us.

Same with Fundy Islam (not all Islam -- just the extremists).

"Look Father, I hate sinners more than any of your other children!"

[Kajsa]

33. Speak for yourself, Five.

You sure don't speak for me.

[FiveGoodMen]

34. I certainly wasn't trying to speak for you.

[SidDithers]

13. Right on cue...nt

Sid

[kestrel91316]

15. Yeah. GET THIS:

Nobody ain't never allowed to pick on fundie mindsets and lack of logic.

So there.

[spoony]

17. Here's some logic: "born-again" is a very wide category

Not all "born-again" Christians believe in the Rapture, for one thing. There goes the OP. For another, even those who do believe in the Rapture are not necessarily nihilists like their extremist kin.

Going after the extremists is fine, but categorising all "born-agains" or even Rapture-believers as evil fundies bent on world domination is ignorant and quite in spite of that logic thing you seem to have a shine for.

[Tyler Durden]

24. "IF" goes the OP.

'scuse my ignorance, please.

ALL of the Born Agains around work (there are quite a few) have talked about "The Rapture" on some occasion or another.

However: we do not have to use Groupspeak, hence the modifier "IF."

[Dawggie]

36. Nope... It's jus that most rational people... n/t

[WillowTree]

37. It's nothing new.

Christian bashing is the primary source of exercise for a certain contingent on DU. The best you can do is ignore these threads because those most deeply involved are apparently not sufficiently thoughtful to engage in anything approaching a respectful discussion on the topic of religion and responding to them only serves as an encouragement.

[Bicoastal]

5. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Ned Flanders' house gets hit by a hurricane...

...and his wife says "Oh Neddy, it was terrifying! I thought I was headed for the eternal bliss of paradise!" :scared:

[Der Blaue Engel]

9. Because they need Armageddon to happen first

They're positively frothing at the mouth at the idea of World War III.

(And again, I can say this because I've been there, and I know.)

[Tyler Durden]

14. Oh yeah. forgot about that freaky "Antichrist vs Hulk Hogan" thingy.

Now I AM making fun of them, because that's just plain dingy. WHERE do they get this stuff? I've read the KJV several times and even in that trippy REVELATIONS stuff it's a big reach to draw that conclusion.

[The Straight Story]

11. Because of the belief you don't when, but will when it is close - so life your life as usual

So that if jesus does come back he won't find you have wasted your time sitting on your ass.

[Beausoleil]

12. Don't they have to have someone

who can bring on Armageddon first? And the temple in Jerusalem rebuilt before they can be zapped?

I'm not too familiar with extreme fundy myths. My question is what happens if you're on the can when "it" happens? Could be embarrassing.

[Tyler Durden]

16. I have GOT to read up on this.

This shit has GOT to beat "Harry Potter and the Electric Thong Panties" any day of the week for fantasy.

Well, Maybe not.

[Kitty Herder]

18. Do you ever think that all this rapture and end-of-the-world

shit that the fundies froth at the mouth over is due to somebody's bad trip? The world would be a better place if John hadn't written down his bad trip and called it prophecy.

[LeftinOH]

21. All the Jews have to go to Israel first...or something; ask Rev. John Hagee for details.

[bryant69]

22. Slactivist's review of Left Behind is an interesting exploration of this

There are some contradictory thoughts in Evengelical Republicanism.

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/left_behind/index.html

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Tyler Durden]

25. How do you read that stuff?

I read a couple of pages, and said to myself "Well, there's a couple of minutes of my life wasted that I'd like back. Who do I call?"

[bryant69]

27. Slactivist's stuff or the Left Behind books?

I've not really looked at Left Behind too much more than the Slactivist's stuff. But Slactivist is a good writer, I think.

Bryant

[Tyler Durden]

39. Good writer, but the exploration of those books is well....

...I don't know...trite?

Deep Analysis of absurdism (believed in or not) catches absurdity from the subject...

[LanternWaste]

23. it seems to me that making the our world the healthiest it can be

Many Christians, although believing in the Rapture in one form or another (from simple death to your dramatic Watermelon Seed scenario), do not pretend to know when it will happen (repeat: 'many', not 'all'), much like we all know we will die, but simply do not have knowledge of the date. Thus, we try to live our lives righteously as though it really is the last day-- and doing as many good works as possible both directly and indirectly in the meanwhile.


If that is indeed the case, and we are called to make every day count, it seems to me that making the our world the healthiest it can be (e.g., environmental stewardship, social programs, etc.) is not only the most effective way to do that, but something we are called upon to do. And as I see it, voting for candidate A or candidate B is one tool among the many we have to accomplish that.

Just my opinion... :shrug:

[yardwork]

28. I grew up among them. Logic is not their strong suit.

You can't expect logic and rationality from people who have been brainwashed.

You'll end up so frustrated you'll be pounding your head against a wall and they'll still be praying that you'll find God while they do everything they can to kill you.

[GreenPartyVoter]

29. Because many of them think their "salvation" is tied to how many people they save and to

doing God's will on earth. So that means, yes, they care about gov't and explains why they are so into creating an American Taliban.

[Mountainman]

30. They believe in war that will end the world so they need a hawk to start

Armageddon.

[Megahurtz]

31. Lol Watermelon Seed

it's more like the Earth will finally shit them out. :hide:

You're right. So why do they care?

[and-justice-for-all]

35. That is my thought too...

If the babble stories are real, the rapture is imminate, why do they even bother with messing up their 'gawds plan'?

Their actions only shows that they do have some doubts, even the hardcore babble thumpers. Because if the rapture was literal and the other fables in the babbles were real, then all they should be doing is staying home and going to kult meetings to prepare for their magical flight into the sky.

[ileus]

38. Maybe it's five years away???

[NMMNG]

40. I've wondered the same thing

I've also wondered why, if their God is so powerful and is going to punish the evil sinners in the end anyway, do they feel the need to screw so much with us while we're here. Do they think God will reward them for being such utter dirtbags to us or something?