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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:34 PM Original message |
I must have missed something.. What is "an entry-level journeyman drafter"? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Dude prolly meant journeyman draftsman |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But.. journeyman level is earned AFTER you GET the job.. |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. No, these "experts" certainly do not live in the real world. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. And the part no one ever addresses is THIS |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's not that easy to get those jobs either |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. and even if there are some jobs, they are more liekly to take |
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livetohike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. That was the guy from Manpower and |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. problem is- they have autocad & computers in india and asia too... |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. to accept a $9-10 hr entry-level job... |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. Easy to figure out |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
11. The majority of politicians & ALL the talking heads are completely OUT OF TOUCH |
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JosephSchmo (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
12. Completely unscientific research |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. My son LIVES up there, & I KNOW what it costs to live there |
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JosephSchmo (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Why should I try again? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. What do any of those listings have to do with the OP? |
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JosephSchmo (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. About our hypothetical person |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. He was NOT an "experianced" draftsman.. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. What I meant was that the "low level" jobs you posted did not contain salary information |
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JosephSchmo (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 04:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I found the salary information |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. If you don't know the difference between a Draftsman and a Senior Architect... |
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JosephSchmo (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 04:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. just doing my homework. |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. That's John Wayne McCrazy's solution to use community colleges to train people for jobs that either |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. An Oxymoron? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. And how much does that training cost? |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
19. They might be trying to say that with previous experience they can skip apprentice |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
20. Well, our administration is working hard to make us a third world country. |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
27. face it, we live in a service economy, and if |
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