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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:58 AM
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Poll question: Who has been the BIGGEST Dem dissapointment?
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 08:06 AM by rndmprsn
...in terms of not standing by democratic ideals and caving into and compromising with repulics bullshit.

please feel free to write in anyone you believe fits the bill
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:59 AM
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1. Aren't Nancy and Harry a matched set?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:59 AM
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2. Liebermann doesn't count
He isn't really a Democrat
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:11 AM
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7. He isn't a democrat at all - he's an independent.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 08:11 AM by El Pinko
I have no idea why he doesn't go whole hog & join the GOP...
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:02 AM
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3. Only one candidate?
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:05 AM
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4. Barack Hussein Obama
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:07 AM
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5. Good job, Rush...
:eyes:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:11 AM
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8. Yet, we see the word "Billary" here every day.
At the anti-Clintonits' BECK and call.

--p!
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:16 AM
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10. You'll never EVER read THAT in my posts...
...nor will you see me bash ANY Democrat ('cept Lieberman, of course ;)) on this or any other website. I've been sickened by some the things I've read here lately.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:46 AM
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22. On that, we both agree
:thumbsup:

--p!
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:12 AM
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9. Seconded. Obama's done some disappointing things...
...but the Limboid swipe at his name is pathetic.

And I would say the same to the people who deride Hillary's voice, face, figure or supposed "insincerity".

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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:16 AM
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11. Sorry I don’t understand your point, his name is Barack Hussein Obama
Hillary Clinton's name is, well, Hillary Clinton.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:17 AM
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13. Puleeze...
:eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:19 AM
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15. I don't have a problem with anyone calling him Barack Hussein Obama
It is his name. But don't fool yourself for a minute that people don't see through your shit.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:28 AM
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18. I dont see any problem calling Barack- Barack Hussein Obama either
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:19 AM
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25. Neither does the rw
Obama, as I'm sure you are aware, is having to defend against swift-boat e-mail attacks which use his name as a weapon against him.

Can we just stick to policy and relevent info to express our feelings about a candidate/elected official and leave out the meaningless slimey attacks that the rw uses?
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:58 AM
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24. It's Hillary Rodham Clinton, if you're gonna be picky.
And all the right-wing radio hate jocks ALWAYS make a point of including "Hussein" when they refer to him, just to get in the implication that he's seomehow related to Saddam Hussein and/or an Islamic extremist pretending to be a Christian or WHATEVER. It's BS aimed at the most moronic of voters, and yet here you are doing the same thing.

If you find him disappointing, why not mention his failings as senator instead of using RW radio smear techniques?

I personally think Obama's a bit too friendly with big business and I don't think he's been quite as consistent against the Iraq war as he says, but overall I think he's a good candidate and not a disappointment.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:32 AM
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28. Sure you do.
And by the way her name is Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:10 AM
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6. John Kerry, for his half-hearted run for the presidency.
Although, for the life of me, I never could figure out what primary voters who picked him were thinking.

(I think he does a fine job as senator, though)

Reid is a close second for me, then Pelosi. I expected both of them to show much more backbone and leadership than they have.

Lieberscum is not a democrat.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:17 AM
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12. Pat Leahy did go beyond investigations and subpoenas,
And he single handedly stripped telecom immunity out of the JC version of the FISA bill, wrote and sponsored the Habeas Restoration Act, wrote and sponsored the very tough War Profiteering Prevention Act- just to name a few things he's done in the last year. He also passed contempt citations out for Rove and Bolton out of the JC. But you say, the legislation he wrote didn't pass- though all the Senate dems voted for the HCRA, and they haven't voted on contempt and jeez, he isn't pushing inherent contempt. Bad Pat, bad.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:17 AM
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14. They can all go take a leap...
..and I mean both Presidential candidates on that list as well. Maybe it's not fair to them but because of the performances of the rest of them my level of trust is not too high.

I've heard "trust us" so many effing times over the past 7 years and been kicked in the gut time and again.

"Oh, don't worry if Harry Reid is a conservative dem from a red state. He's a fighter." Yeah, right.

"Oh, trust the dem leadership because when they get supoena power that's when it's all going to come together." Yeah, right. And don't fucking tell me about the "only have 1 vote margin in the senate boo hoo. That has nothing to do with controlling the committees and issuing supoenas and enforcing them.

So unfortunately for the two triangulating candidates for president who remain, I'm not too big on "Trust us." right the fuck about now.

But my answer to this question would be Bill Clinton. I expect the active politicians to do and say anything to keep their power. I'm used to that. But his performance on behalf of his wife this primary season has soured me on him and his legacy. I didn't expect much of the rest of them so dissapointment is a relative term. But I expected a lot more of him. And maybe that's my problem.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:20 AM
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16. Buckled like a belt
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:27 AM
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17. D.U.
For the bitching, the whining, the crazy accusations, the calling each other war-loving, baby-eating freaks-- seriously, now. You need some slapping. The party of compassion, of my parents' era, is dead.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:29 AM
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19. All of DU, eh?
:shrug:

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:41 AM
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21. That's a rather broad slap
Frankly I keep reading these threads where the poster decries all of the vicious fighting here at DU, and decides to announce they're official departure, often with a back-handed swipe at all of the new posters, who, in their mind, are apparently guilty of ruining their insular DU buddy echo chamber ... and although there may be some of that, or the perception of it is certainly appreciated by some, I also perceive some of it as sour apples over the fact that other independent minded thinkers are allowed to espouse their views, which, being independent minded, more often than not involves being less than enthusiastic about the favored, top tier candidates/corporatists ...and so any form of criticism of said candidates, and the systems they belong to, apparently smacks of "bitching, whining, and crazy accusations," even if it's often far more substantive than simply that.

Just an observation.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:36 AM
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20. I am torn between Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, and the others
Because personally I am quickly coming to the conclusion that none of them is worth runny shit.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:57 AM
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23. All of the above. nt
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:19 AM
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26. I have to say that it's the candidate I'll be voting for.
Doesn't that suck? It's not because Obama is a bad candidate--not really. It's just that my hopes for him were so damned high. If Hillary is Republican Lite, Obama is looking more and more like Clinton Lite. I can only hope that he still remembers what it's like to live hand-to-mouth, and that his activist past will drive him to exert some small effort on behalf of America's most needy.

I don't think that I can count on Clinton for any of that, so I am a distinctly underwhelmed Obama supporter.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:30 AM
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27. Democratic Primary Voters
who have opted for more of the same once again.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:07 AM
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29. Other...
whining, useless shits who blame Democratic officeholders for Republican obstructionism.

Pelosi's marathon session working out a deal for the stimulus plan doesn't count.

Not getting enough Republican votes to overide a veto is the Democrats' fault.

Not getting Republican impeachment votes is the Democrats' fault.

Not walking away from Iraq is the Democrats' fault.

Getting into Iraq in the first place is the Democrats' fault.

My cat has fleas, and that's the Democrats' fault.

Go ahead, blame it all on useless Democrats. Is that easier than placing the blame where it belongs?



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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:01 AM
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30. Conyers.
H.R. 333 calling for the impeachment of Dick Cheney has been sitting on the Judiciary Committees desk for nine months without a debate or a vote to move it to the House floor.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 AM
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31. Al Gore for not running
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:10 AM
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32. obama to me and to a large part of the gay community. nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:02 PM
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33. You forgot, "all of the above". nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:03 PM
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34. william jefferson clinton.
nt
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