Mitt sez: HALF uninsured are just deadbeats.

[K8-EEE]

They COULD afford it, but figure "why should I? We'll just get sick and go to the hospital for free!"

What fucking planet did this guy come from.

[Zynx]

1. Well, he thinks he gets a planet after he dies.

Ask him what he'll name it.

[acmavm]

2. The planet where greedy rich corrupt bastards make their fortunes off

the labors and on the backs of the working class and think they have it coming.

[DemoTex]

3. Just like the airlines (and ...). They get real sick and go to the government for free treatment.

WTF is the difference?

[Kittycat]

4. Sadly, I know so many people on another board that actually believe this.

I butted heads so many times with them recently, that I've pretty much stopped going there. I only found this out about them in the past month, after posting alongside for nearly 2 years (small parenting board). Makes me sick to my stomach.

[Critters2]

5. What fucking planet did this guy come from?

Kolob.

[K8-EEE]

6. In Mitt's world,. nobody ever loses their house because of hospital bills

And nobody ever gets dumped by the hospital in Skid Row in a hospital gown for inability to pay.

What an asshole.

[tech3149]

7. Might be Mittens never had to pay twice his monthly income

for a COBRA plan or got denied coverage for pre-existing BS. Just STFU and go away, uninformed opinions are worth no more than the smelly butt holes they emanate from.

[K8-EEE]

8. No kidding!!!! I was without insurance once

when got laid off, my Cobra (as a healthy young person) was going to be $750 and this was years ago. What unemployed person can possibly afford that while they're looking for a new job? Then you get the new job and there's this waiting period before you're eligible -- I think 6 months!

I HATED being uninsured....it scared me to death but I had no choice. I was counting the days til my eligibility came through and terrified of getting sick or being in an accident.

It's so insulting to hear them act like people who fall through the giant swiss cheese holes of this nutty system are just freeloaders.

[goodgd_yall]

9. He said this:

"We found out that about half of them could afford to buy insurance if it were reasonably priced; they could afford to buy it, but they weren't buying it. And we asked them why, and they said, well, why should we buy it? If we get sick, we can go to the hospital and get care for free. And we said, you know what? If somebody could afford insurance, they should either by the insurance or pay their own way."

"If it were reasonably priced"---the operative words. How cavalierly Mitt just assumes that---of course---we're all being provided reasonably priced insurance.

[calimary]

10. Keep in mind that what's "reasonably priced" for him is a king's ransom

for a poor family or a single head of household. Nice, shitty mitty. Thoughtful and compassionate of you. Who would Jesus disqualify? Does he forget that bush himself said that - hey? What's the problem here? Everybody has some sort of health coverage. You just go to the emergency room!

What an arrogant prick. How many people did YOU lay off when you bought up some ailing company, cut it up and sold its parts, and "outsourced" all the jobs with those annoying pensions and benefits packages, mitty? Shitty mitty. That's what I'm gonna call him from now on. Compassion my ass. Sounds like he interviewed mostly other greedy, selfish, shortsighted republi-CONS. That's the kind of answer they'd give. Why should I buy something when I can just go get it for free later?

Schmuck. And when ARE your five healthy, strapping, eligible, military-age sons shipping out to Iraq, anyway?

[raccoon]

12. Yeah, and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

"about half of them could afford to buy insurance if it were reasonably priced"

What a dipshit.

ANd then there are those who can't get individual insurance AT ANY PRICE because of pre-existing conditions.

[gratuitous]

19. Same principle operates for retirement

People would save for retirement if they were paid a lot more, too. While Social Security isn't a complete fix, it works about 1,000 times better than any voluntary system where the money is available before disability or retirement. But because wages lag far behind increases in worker productivity and the rate of inflation, people don't have more money in their pockets than they can spend each month. So, while everyone agrees that saving for retirement is good, the reality is that a lot of workers don't have any slack in their income.

Fortunately, we have a surfeit of overrich bastards sucking up the excess wealth from productivity gains and then blaming the workers for not having more. So, is Mitt going to voluntarily release some of that wealth, or do we have to take it from him with the same force he appropriated it from us?

[Snarkturian Clone]

11. Way to win supporters, Catcher's Mitt! NT

[TexasObserver]

13. Mittens is out of touch with poor America.

That video of him with black people saying "who let the dogs out?" and the one where he says "you got some bling-bling" show how far from reality this guy lives. I would wager that is the closest he has ever been to a black person.

He claimed half of those who don't have health insurance could afford it. Bunk!! Half the people who HAVE health insurance can't afford it! When health care and television news are strictly profit based, the public is not served.

[bluedawg12]

14. By dead beat: he means net worth $5 million or less? n/t

[SoCalDem]

15. Take his money away...make him work at a normal job..let him keep the 5 kids

and then give him ...say...diabetes.. He'd be a deadbeat too ..

republicans have "shoe" problems.. they never can see themselves in anyone else's shoes..

[gollygee]

16. Half? Where'd he get that statistic?

I can guess.

[EFerrari]

17. He has to say that. He's a Republican.

Blaming people for what they need while you bilk them is the Republican way.

[me b zola]

18. Mitt can kiss my uninsured ass. n/t

[RB TexLa]

20. He's talking about the hated single male, who by not buying insurance doesn't help to lower the cost

for their precious families. Because families are the only ones who matter.

Don't you know everyone has to sacrifice for children, whether you have them or not, and this is especially true for Republicans, they think they are just the greatest damn things in the world.

[mvccd1000]

21. I think the half figure is way off, but...

.... surely most people here can admit that there are SOME people who can afford insurance and choose not to.

I can afford it, but I don't have it.

[K8-EEE]

22. If the govmen't MAKES you buy a product,. isn't that like a "tax?"

Why are the people who are so opposed to single payer, OK with mandating people buy this overpriced ins., especially since they don't mandate the insurance to actually cover you if you get sick -- instead they can have the ins. do opposition research on you to find a loophole to get out of paying (a la Sicko!)

[Iggo]

23. Rich people are just so cute when they try to think.

[guitar man]

24. Mitt can kiss my ass

My "employer provided" health insurance premium increased by $102 a month at the first of the year, jumping from $271 to $373. Now that might be mere pennies to a powdered and pampered aristocrat like him, but it has caused much pain, suffering and grief for my family.

I laid awake at night during the open enrollment period trying to decide what to do, keep it, drop it, alternatives and the like. At one point, my wife and I considered getting a divorce so we could get our 2 year old daughter onto the state run healthcare. Now,Mittens, what does that do for your "sanctity of marrige" bullshit that you right wing assbags like to trot out for applause from the fundie crowd?

Ultimately, I wound up biting the bullet, keeping the insurance and filing Ch 13 bankruptcy so I could pay for it and we can continue to live. The fuck I could just automatically "afford" it! :grr:

Mitt, kiss my hairy white ass!!!! :mad: :grr:

[yurbud]

25. If Mitt is nominee, it would be criminal malpractice if Dems didn't use this clip in a commercial

[yurbud]

27. this should be his Papa Bush amazed at grocery store scanners moment

Remember back in 1992 when Papa Bush made a campaign stop at a grocery store and was amazed at the scanners they had had for years, clearly showing he hadn't done his own shopping for a while, if ever?

[K8-EEE]

33. It should be but the librul media will let it go and focus on something important like

who really didn't shake whose hand....you know, something real important like that,.

[K8-EEE]

32. I think the Dems need to hit this HARD AT THE DEBATE! KICK! N/T

[rucky]

26. what a dick.

[yurbud]

28. Is this the passage you mean? He doesn't say ''deadbeat'' but the idea is the same

But then secondly, with regards to my health care plan, let me describe what I think is the ultimate conservative approach. In this country you have today about 47 million people that don't have health insurance. We went out and tried to find out why they don't. We found out that about half of them could afford to buy insurance if it were reasonably priced; they could afford to buy it, but they weren't buying it. And we asked them why, and they said, well, why should we buy it? If we get sick, we can go to the hospital and get care for free. And we said, you know what? If somebody could afford insurance, they should either by the insurance or pay their own way.

They don't have to buy insurance if they don't want to, but pay their own way. But they shouldn't be allowed just to show up at the hospital and say, "Somebody else should pay for me."

And so we said no more free riders. It was like bringing workfare to welfare. We said if you can afford insurance, then either have the insurance or get a health savings account, pay your own way, but no more free ride. And that was what the mandate did. It said you've got to come up with either the insurance or health savings account or alike.

I think it's the conservative approach to make sure that people who can afford care are getting it at their expense, not at the expense of the taxpayers and government. That I consider to be a step towards socialism.

[K8-EEE]

31. Yes,. exactly,. "no more free riders" HE NEEDS TO SEE SICKO!

No more free riders -- even people WITH insurance can lose everything due to a health crisis! THAT'S the "conservative" view, if you're not rich there's no real protection for you, to hell with you if you get sick!

[TCJ70]

34. So he wants people who can afford it to have it?

Why isn't that reasonable? Who pays the bill for someone who goes to the hospital without insurance and doesn't pay? The hospital does...and those costs add up.

[Virginia Dare]

40. Medicaid covers a lot of them..

I think Romney is turning a blind eye to the working poor here. Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there who have to make a choice between paying their bills or buying health insurance. I think he's ignoring that fact.

[Vinca]

29. Yep, I'm just living the high life and don't want to give up my

condo at the beach to pay for health insurance. Is this guy out of his fucking mind? Our last quote to buy it was almost a third of our net income. Now, since one of us has been diagnosed with a chronic condition, it isn't available at any price. The "deadbeat" meme is right up there with "most of the uninsured are illegals." I really, really despise these people. Their silver spoons need to be shoved up their . . . you know.

[jmowreader]

30. Then there are people in my situation...

We have health insurance. In fact, we have the very best health insurance Home Depot offers its employees, which is Blue Cross & Blue Shield's top plan. We're paying about $160/month for it.

What we DIDN'T have, at least until I found a job that pays better, is the money to cover the deductibles and copays.

Now let me ask you something, Mitt: if I have insurance, really good insurance, and I can't afford to actually use it, am I insured or not?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

36. I am in the very same boat you are...

I have insurance through my employer. I have a abdominal mass that will need imaging, surgery, and possible follow-up treatment, depending on what it turns out to be.

My very smart Mom -- who used to work for a company that specialized in creating employee benefit plans for large companies -- asked me what my plan covered and how much my co-pays were. Having never actually used my healthcare plan for anything this major, I had no idea. So, I check it out. And I promptly got scared. Very scared. The $400 co-pay per day for hospitalization for the 3-4 days I will need alone is more than I have on hand right now. Let alone the co-pays for the imaging, the surgery, etc.

Finding the mass didn't make me cry. Finding out how much I was going to have to pay DID made me cry! :cry:

[SOS]

35. Where are these hospitals that don't send bills to the uninsured?

Does Mitt have a list for the uninsured? They would surely like to know where these free hospitals are.
Maybe in Sweden?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

38. San Francisco General Hospital...

I am very proud that SF has a healthcare system that will service the low income and uninsured for free. I was in that system for almost four years during a time I was uninsured. They have a sliding scale, and I qualified for free or low cost healthcare through the city clinics and hospital. I got doctor visit, tests, procedures, mental health care, and medication all at low or no cost. The care I got was amazing -- much better than when I was with Kaiser -- and I felt very taken care of.

So, it is possible -- I just with the rest of the country would catch on...

[dysfunctional press]

37. and they'll go to the hospital in their new cadillac with a trunk full of government cheese, right?

:eyes:

btw- if the hospital patient without insurance was charged the same prices for everything that the insurance company pays- MOST people COULD afford it.

[yurbud]

39. Randi Rhodes just played the clip

[Javaman]

41. mittshit reminds me of perry in texas, high on the stupidity, low on the brains. nt

[Disturbed]

42. Compoare McCain's Health care Plan with other Candidates.

McCain health plan aims to give options - John McCain News- msnbc.com
John McCain is proposing a sweeping health care system overhaul aimed at giving ... The Republican presidential candidate’s plan, to be outlined in a speech ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21243223/


I suspect that McCain will be the Rethug Nominee.