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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:07 AM
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Freeper Email I got today
How Amazingly Stupid We Are

If this is even half way true, we are a sad lot. This has to be the defining issue in the coming election.

It's time we wake up. Boy am I confused. Listening to the Partisan "politicals ", I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

Now .... I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.




1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year.

http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html



3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html



5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt. 01.html



6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html


7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html


8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &social services by the American taxpayers.

http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html



9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in
the US

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html



11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
aliens from Terrorist Countries Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine,
meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern
border. Homeland Security Report:

http://tinyurl.com/t9sht<http://tinyurl.com/t9sht >


12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf



13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back
to their countries of origin.

http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm





14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".

http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



The total cost is a who pping ;
$ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A " YEAR "


Are we THAT stupid???

If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five
times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

.
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:10 AM
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1. Typical Repuk BS
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:33 PM
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21. So ... The point is what ???
The budget deficit is due to illegal immigration ???

What party had COMPLETE control of all three branches of government during the period when the majority of that this all occurred ... TOTAL control of the government ...

The republicans ...

So, based on this information, you would want to hold what party responsible for all of this ???

These people are just batshiite crazy ...
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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:11 AM
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2. I hope the sender received a reply along the lines of...
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 11:11 AM by RedStateShame
"How Incredibly Stupid YOU Are!"

Also, remind the person who sent this to you to post the time and address of the upcoming Klan meeting in the next e-mail.

edited for a spelling error
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:11 AM
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3. i just love how all the links go to
non verifiable sources hehe. What a riot. How do you calculate how much you loose in wages due to illegal aliens? you can't calculate that.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:23 AM
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5. One fact I can refute off the top of my head... 30% of Fed. prisoners...
they don't factor in local and State prisons and jails (cause the illegals get sent to fed prisons, they have jurisdiction). When you do factor in the other populations it turns out there are LESS illegals in jail (per capita) than US Citizens.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:20 PM
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12. They'll just argue that illegals are getting preferential treatment
Since they've already made up their minds, they will use every fact to try and justify why they are right.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:48 AM
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9. {in mock hateful tone} "Wull what are ya, STUPID?!"
:sarcasm:
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:20 AM
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4. One feeper makes up a line of bull shit and the other freepers use it as a reference source.
Anyway if it were true isn't it better to spend money helping people get a life than killing people?


I am really glad there are freepers in the world. Using freeper wisdom as a base, every idea from someone else is up!

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:33 AM
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6. Love some of the sources.... Lou Dobbs! LOL!! Typical BS, but even if it were all
the email is full of it. Counts the cost of 'welfare' twice and includes the amount of money taken out of the US (has the writer looked to see how many billions corporations take out of the country?) and the cost of deporting all of them. Makes no sense.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:33 AM
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7. Xenophobia: It's that ol' time racism all dressed up and carrying a fancy new title.
Bigots and patriots: Huge growth opportunity! Get in on the ground floor and retire in six months.

Make big bucks organizing hate rallies and harassing the wetback scum who are taking our jobs, scaring our women and children, driving beat up turquoise cars on our streets, using our hospitals and schools for free, draining the local economy, drinking and using drugs, and living 12 to a room like rats in a nest.

If they aren't stopped, the terrorists win.

Hoods and robes optional.


wp

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:46 AM
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8. They make the assumption that all immigrants are illegal. Legal
immigrants can get welfare and other services, not illegals. I had a lot of migrant farmers on my mail route. They kept their home clean, were very friendly, and worked like demons. Occasionally a health professional would stop by just to check for communicable diseases. Other than that, I saw no government checks, or food stamps.

Tell your friend that supply and demand applies to the illegal aliens. If there wasn't a demand for slave wage workers, there would not be a supply. Throw a few CEO's in prison for hiring illegals and maybe the demand will dry up. Many of the illegals have jobs promised before they even start their trek. US businesses and farms send recruiters to Mexico and beyond.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:51 AM
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10. They are not ALL unverifiable--at least one is a legit government report
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 11:56 AM by MindPilot
Number 11 goes to this report from DHS. Of course I realize this is the same government that brought us Saddam had WMDs and Global Warming doesn't exist, but this looks like a pretty objective study and makes for interesting reading.

http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

It shows just how complex this issue is and actually refutes some of the chainmail's anti-Mexican racist bullshit.

And BTW, you might point out to the sender that the kind of heroin they are concerned about doesn't have an "e" on the end.

On edit: Also tell the sender there are two movies they really need to see: Fast Food Nation & A Day Without a Mexican. Basically if they don't want migrant workers coming over the border; they kind of need to stop eating.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:16 PM
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11. And what has their hero done to stop the flow of
illegals to this country? Not . one . damn . thing.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:31 PM
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13. So what? They're just doing the jobs Americans "won't" do..
that's what the freeper in chief told me anyway. Who's going to pick our lettuce? Should we just make slaves of all of them? That's it, bring the gulag to the good old U.S.A.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:32 PM
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14. looks like lou dobbs is busy sending around emails along with
doing his crapy ass tv show
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:35 PM
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15. $100 billion a year on the war in Iraq
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 12:36 PM by LSK
and how much of those programs ALSO BENEFIT AMERICANS?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:38 PM
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16. Here is one they forgot
US spends as much on defense as the rest of the world!!
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 12:51 PM
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17. of course they never mention how much illegals contribute to America
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 01:36 PM by Neo
which is a great deal

in addition to Iraq's enormous financial drain, there's the enormous financial and military aid thrown away to Israel
http://www.peacenowar.net/Palestine/News/US%20aids.htm
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:19 PM
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18. How much was funneled to Blackwater and Halliburton?
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:20 PM
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19. 338 Billion is still far less
Then what we spend on the military every year....
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:24 PM
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20. Got the same crap
Hit Reply to All and said; "Here's an exercise I'd like you to try. Please use the same equation to determine what we spend for those same services for 'legal white Americans'". I think you'll be shocked by the results."

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