May I suggest a new label for this country? Cormockracy?

[peacetalksforall]

The United States of America. Not a Democracy - it's a Cor-mock-racy. It can also be interchanged with Cormuckracy - for all the muck fed to us - by corporations, for corporations. We must address what we are. We must decide - how much longer will we live under what has become a delusion - that we live in a country of, for, and by the people.

We must stop lying to our children or let their teachers lie to them. Our student-children are being lied to every time they learn a civic lesson out of the books or the mouths of parents, teachers, leaders. Lies, in fact. Lies that every vote counts, that we are an honorale nation that has a military to defend us, that we believe in our well thought out Constitution and Bill of Rights and honor it and preserveit against those who want to rewrite it, that every person is provided a trial by jury - for example.

We must be honest with them - and tell them that we have changed and that we now live under nearly complete corporate rule. We should tell them that they will be learning this by the ancient form of learning - through verbal workds becaue school books haven't been written yet. We have to tell them that books for adults have been writting, but the school books haven't been rewritted, yet. It is optional whether we want to tell them the reason - that many people don't want to admit it yet.

We can even tell them that the name of our country will probably change to reflect the truth - the United States of Corporations.

We can tell that our first Revolution was about the people winning the country from kings. We can explain it to them that this Revolution (causing a change in name) is because the people lost to a new form of kings.

The day of reckoning with our little and big student-children is looming and a lot of paper will be needed if we're honest and rewrite their books to teach the truth through books.

Depending on their age - they will learn more words - cor, short for corporations, mock, muck.

Something for all of to reread:
1 a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2: a political unit that has a democratic government
3capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States <from emancipation Republicanism to New Deal Democracy— C. M. Roberts>
4: the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5: the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges

Merriam-Webster

[Junkdrawer]

1. I've been using the term Pseudo-Democracy for, what, 5 years now...

an ENORMOUS effort is made to put a Democratic face on, basically, fascist imperialism.

Here's the $64 question: Is the country better off with Pseudo-Democracy, or with outright, open, brutal Fascism?

[catmandu57]

2. Give it time

Before long the mask will be thrown away then we'll be an open brutal fascist country. It's already too late to turn back without pain and blood, I just hope these kids coming up behind have some major good mojo to pull us out of this crap.

[Junkdrawer]

5. I think you're onto something...Why do we get CNN/Fox etc. while Chile...

got death squads and Iran got SAVAK?

Part of the answer has to be that Chile and Iran had a larger class of radicalized poor. But the attack on our middle class grows more effective every year. So I guess it depends on how radicalized a dispossessed middle class becomes.

[peacetalksforall]

3. Interestng. Does the question imply that if we don't stay in a state of

Pseudo-Democracy, that we will get brutal Fascism?

[Junkdrawer]

4. Historically, it means that without the veneer, fascism is much more brutal....

but shorter lived.

In other words, cut the shit and more people get killed, but, eventually the fascists are overthrown.

Who knows how long this illusion can last.

[dajoki]

6. "During a fascist shift from democracy to dictatorship...

daily life often seems normal and even pleasant"---From Naomi Wolf's book "The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot."

Ed Tant's blog
Book says U.S. on its way out
by Ed Tant | January 19, 2008 - 9:19am
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12258

"There are 10 steps that are taken in order to close down a democracy or crush a pro-democratic movement ... Impossible as it may seem, we are seeing each of these 10 steps taking hold in the United States today," warns writer Naomi Wolf in her frightening new book, "The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot."
More...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2720806

[libodem]

7. I've been thinking about the same subject

and was thinking about starting my own thread. Yours gives me a platform, however, to try and make my point. I was talking with a friend yesterday and he mentioned that Bush is much like Hitler. (I'm thinking genocidal maniac) He went on to say, he meant, in the way that Europe had 'Socialism for the Corporation'. Corporate Socialism. My new concept. By God, we won't Socialize any programs for the People, but we'll grant tax breaks and social welfare to corporations. We most certainly are no longer a Democracy but are Fascist in every sense of the word. Hi-el Bushitler. Our government has become a mix of government with corporations, its a corporate government. And when you think of the ordinary man, perhaps with a family, working for someone else, he has lost his rights. Now if you think of another man and he owns his own business, and perhaps incorporates that business, he suddenly has all the rights an privileges of a corporation. Do we, as individuals have to incorporate ourselves, to have the same rights and privileges as a corporation? A corporation has personhood. When it comes down to it a corporation is only the person running it. Make any sense to anyone else or am I way off the mark?

[peacetalksforall]

8. So if we could incorporate ourselves we can compete with the

corporations, hire our own lobbyists instead of relying on a vote (delusional gesture that it has become), pool all our campaign donation money to promote and support our own candidates to compete against the corporations candidate? Alas or at last or at least - we could come up with a better idea for us and the idea that those who want to control us have against us. It may be a faster way of getting people to acknowledge what is happening to us. ??? Or am I way off track in interpreting and running off on a 'therefore'?

(With acknowledgement that not all the corporations have become our enemy by their choice.)

[libodem]

10. It is food for thought

we might all have to incorporate ourselves or lose our constitutional representation. I know this is going a little to far but your personal lobbyist idea would be the logical consequence, if we carried the idea to an extreme. Thanks for playing along with my crazy thoughts.

[Bright Eyes]

9. America has become a plutocracy, oligarchy, and theocracy

All rolled into one.

[libodem]

11. you are right

on that one my friend.

[lonestarnot]

12. What does it cost to incorporate these days?

Application? Draft and publish articles, blah blah... how much?