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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:46 PM
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New Hampshire Sec. of State Appears to Lie to Media About Kucinich Hand Count
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5602

Bill Gardner Says 'Kucinich Satisfied With Recount' When Letter from Congressman to SoS Says Otherwise...
On Monday, New Hampshire's Union Leader editorialized as follows...

Whatever the recount's results, Gardner has opened the process to observers so there can be no question about the integrity of the count. Doubters on both sides should let this settle the issue. If they question Gardner's integrity, then we'll know for sure not to trust anything else they have to say.
While The BRAD BLOG has reported, in some detail, on the incompetence of New Hampshire's Secretary of State, Bill Gardner, his failure to track Diebold memory cards, and many more issues revealed during the course of the Election Contests following the state's recent Primary Election, we've yet to question his integrity.

However, if this report from today's Nashua Telegraph accurately quotes Gardner, then its time to begin questioning him on that score, because now it would appear he is simply out and out lying to the media about the hand count results, and Dennis Kucinich's position on it, at this hour, as stated clearly in a letter sent yesterday to the SoS.

Tucked at the end of the Kevin Landrigan's Telegraph piece today on the latest "recount" news, is the follow comments from Gardner:

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:49 PM
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1. a politician will never let the Truth get in the way of telling a perfectly good lie.
IMO
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:04 PM
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3. Are you speaking of Bill Gardner, Dennis Kucinich, or Brad?
Or perhaps all three???

Tesha
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:14 PM
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10. in this case, the SoS of NH
but ALL politicians lie at some point. It's part of the territory.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:50 AM
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15. Frankly, if I were you, I'd bet on Brad.
His track record (of hyperventilating and distorting
the facts) is much more sound than Bill Gardner's.

Tesha
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:49 PM
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2. They only recounted ONE county.
Dennis ran out of money, so they stopped the recount. They're basing the whole thing on the recount of Hillsborough County.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:14 PM
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4. Well, 1+ counties, and that one county...
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 05:15 PM by Tesha
Well, 1+ counties because they also recounted a portion
of Rockingham county. And even if it were just Hillsborough
County, that county has about 31% of the state's population
so it doesn't represent some sort of insignificantly-small
sample.

2006 Population, per http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/33/33011.html :

Hillsborough County: 402,789

State of NH: 1,314,895

Tesha
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:47 PM
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7. That doesn't make it a complete recount, though, does it? nt
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:49 AM
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14. Sure, I admit it. They completely stole Coos County, population 33,019.
Happy now?

Tesha
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:16 PM
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5. Kucinich Satisfied w/ recount ? - if he is not he has no data to stand on -it was a good recount and
proved the results being grossly wrong as implied by Brad was bull.

Indeed there were some minor improvements that could be done - and DK wanted the whole state to be audited (which he does not explain other than "closeness" - and it wasn't that close and the recount showed that further recount was not going to change anything as the part completed - the most likely areas per DK to have errors - had near zero change in percentages).

Brad has become an idiot ever since he decided to go to the dance with Bev on stopping audits in 08 that were required by the Holt HR811 reform bill.

Well - there will be no mandatory audits in 08 - Brad and Bev won - and Brad's continued inability to notice the irony involve in he and Bev pretending to be election reform folks continues to amaze.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:48 PM
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8. As I said, ONLY ONE COUNTY was recounted.
That's far from a total recount.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:01 PM
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9. 32 changed votes, with Obama drawing 18 votes closer to Clinton, - in 33% of the population
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:21 PM
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11. Who;s to say the rest of the counties would be the same?
Different counties--different voting machines.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:30 PM
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13. The other counties unexpectedly went for Obama despite a lack of young and wealthy -??
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:08 AM
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16. That doesn't matter
What matters is that we get the count right. Otherwise, we won't have any hope of trusting any other primary or General Election outcomes. NH is small. It's the perfect place to get it right. I know what you're saying, that it doesn't seem that Obama should have won in the rest of NH, but Obama attracts alot of people who aren't young and professional, and Manchester is a conservative city.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:19 PM
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6. K&R
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 06:25 PM
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12. The local Shop 'N Save ran out of cardboard boxes....
so there was no was to transport the ballots....

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