So, Obama thinks Republicans will help give him a landslide?

[Labors of Hercules]

Obama's saying he wants to bring about a landslide election for change, and to do that he needs:

1)an enormous voter majority behind his objectives, (He used a BAD word: "coalition")...
2)a magnet personality to bring people together, (He used an even WORSE example: "Reagan"):scared:...

and 3)a broad and open inclusion of the BEST IDEAS to make transformative change, (He royally screwed the pooch by using the WORST POSSIBLE and wholly RIDICULOUS example of HORRIBLE transformative ideas IMAGINABLE: "Republicans")
:wtf:...

So, I know what Obama's been trying to say, but I don't respect the way he's been trying to say it, the means he is willing to use to get it, or what that may reveal about him as a potential president.
Trust your gut people... (If it waddles, splashes and quacks, it's probably a duck. )

[polichick]

1. He used those bad examples because he was kissing up for a conservative endorsement...

We do need a BIG WIN ~ but ass kissing isn't the way to get it.

[Labors of Hercules]

4. The problem is...

There is no way to be honest to the American People about a progressive agenda, and appeal to conservatives at the same time. Somebody's gonna have to be sold something they don't want, and I'd prefer it be them, NOT US.

[polichick]

6. I don't agree - most Americans are more progressive...

...than the Republicans running (for instance, most are self-described environmentalists) ~ and the desperation that comes with ass-kissing is a turn off. What's really seductive is a strong sure confidence that doesn't need to pander.

[Labors of Hercules]

8. exactly, so why try to sell the majority?

He's trying to sell the majority on the idea that we need the minority to make a transformative progressive change in Washington. That's what Reagan did, only he sold the majority a load of shit.


I just hope Obama isn't trying to do the same thing.

[polichick]

10. At this point, I don't trust Obama...

It's hard to tell what he's up to, but brown-nosing Republicans is stinky business!

[Labors of Hercules]

12. VERY stinky...

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[polichick]

14. LOL - great emoticons!!

[orleans]

2. nice duck you got there. n/t

[Labors of Hercules]

3. Thanks!

[OHdem10]

5. It might have been better to go after Democrats rather than

Republicans.

Some Liberals feel "Sista Soulja'd" by Obama.

[Johonny]

7. So he should have used

the land side victory of who instead? Nixon? Johnson? I think Reagan registers the correct image in baby boomers.

[Labors of Hercules]

11. So, there's no example of a progressive rolemodel for a transformative victory?

Reagan registers the "correct image" of positive change? :wtf: If that's true, then I was right to buy an apartment in South America...

[LSK]

9. so does that right wing tool Randi Rhodes

Its called winning elections.

:eyes:

[orleans]

16. yeah--randi--

she's such a "right wing tool!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Blarch]

13. Hillary's campaign also

made it crystal clear that they were courting the Reagan democrats

Obama made her attack the very voters she was courting....genius.

[Labors of Hercules]

15. oh, is THAT what he was doing?

kissing up to Reagan democrats so Hillary would be caught in a catch 22?
Sneaky...

didn't work out too well for him though, did it? :shrug: