Freudian slip? Cheney calls Iraq war a "venture"

[sabra]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2897919&page=1

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Asked whether it had been a failure to see more than 3,000 American soldiers killed and a virtual civil war raging, Cheney stood his ground.

"You wish there was never a casualty," he said. "Always regret when you have casualties, but we are at war. And we have to succeed where we've begun this venture. And we can."

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/venture.html

ven·ture


noun (plural ven·tures)

Definition:

1. new business enterprise: a business enterprise that involves risk, but could lead to profit

2. risky project: a risky or daring undertaking that has no guarantee of success

3. money risked: the money or property risked in a business venture

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/venture

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ven·ture /ˈvɛntʃər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -tured, -tur·ing, adjective
–noun

2. a business enterprise or speculation in which something is risked in the hope of profit; a commercial or other speculation.

edit: added Encarta definition

[rodeodance]

1. no F. slip.

[saltpoint]

2. Ha! That's right -- for Uncle Dick this is a money project. His pals

at Haliburton I'm sure are deeply grateful for their role in this "venture."

And speaking of Freud and his theory of penis envy, is there a corresponding disorder for other organs?

Cheney suffers from heart envy.

His doesn't work very well. The physiological one and the metaphorical one are near-junk imitations of the real thing.

[Double T]

3. The 'war'; the latest bush and cheney business enterprise where the American people;......

specially 'OUR' troops; pay the ultimate and high price and bear ALL the costs WHILE george, dick and ALL their corporate 'friends' make out like a bunch of psychopath greedy criminals.

[Igel]

4. And what was def. 1? n/t

[peace13]

9. In my 'Condensed' Webster it says...

n. A course of action involving risk, chance, or danger, especially a business investment.
v. To take risk

[WinkyDink]

5. "You wish there was never a casualty," he said. Note the pronoun.

"YOU".

[yellerpup]

6. What a breakthrough.

For the very first time, he ain't lyin'.

[plcdude]

Analyzing

this man responses is a gate to his pathology. He is beyond anything we can call remotely human.

[jollyreaper2112]

7. heh, I misread that

Thought you said he called it a vulture.

[peacetalksforall]

8. 80% of this country do not approve of him and he's off representing

us, countries are receiving hime, and he is admitting - shamelessly, arrogantly, pompously - as is usual way?

[gratuitous]

10. Well, ExxonMobil made nearly $40 billion last year in profits

So I think it's working out quite well for them.

[cgrindley]

11. Do you know what the word "venture" means?

Is there a reason that you'd omit its most obvious and usual meaning? Do you realize that this sort of shrillness makes us look collectively idiotic?

Cheney is an evil man, a source of horrible chaos, and has probably caused irreversible damage to the US economy, but to deconstruct every single one of his asinine pronouncements to reflect on Haliburton is to give our oponents ammunition to use against us. His actual words were clear enough.

Iraq was a "venture" in that it was an inherently dangerous, uncertain activity.

That's enough isn't it? We should ask: how does your assessment of the risks in Iraq balance against your initial view? How could you so clearly fail to understand what you were leading the country into?

[sabra]

12. Personally I don't care what the Freepers think of "our" posts...

One could say that either definition makes his choice of the word suspicious... IMO the word is commonly used in a business context?

Encarta:

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/venture.html

ven·ture


noun (plural ven·tures)
Definition:

1. new business enterprise: a business enterprise that involves risk, but could lead to profit

2. risky project: a risky or daring undertaking that has no guarantee of success

3. money risked: the money or property risked in a business venture

:hi:

[cgrindley]

13. I meant to the mainstream. Freepers will hate us no matter what

Sometimes I get the idea that people here want to sabotage any chance of promoting progressive values by being entirely too antagonistic. Deliberately reading more into a politician's words is just one of those things that makes us look overly shrill.

Cheney is NOT James Joyce.

[DefenseLawyer]

14. I beg to differ

I don't know anyone who thinks the "most obvious and usual meaning" of the word venture is "an inherently dangerous activity". Can you give me an example of the common use of the term venture in reference to something other than business activity? A business venture, a joint venture, the term is used to refer to business activity in its "usual meaning". That being said, I wouldn't make too much of evil Dick using this term. He is simply using the vernacular one would expect from a corporate whore.

[Richard Steele]

15. Yes, actually, I do. nm

[Mandate My Ass]

16. do you know what "concern troll" means?

Just askin.

[cgrindley]

17. Why don't you tell me what it is, Sunshine?

And you should be careful in doing it. Accusations of trollery are not taken well.

Listen. The more shrill and purposefully ignorant we as a group come across as being, the harder our task will be in the upcoming election. We shouldn't be doing anything to take the focus off the idea that Iraq has failed and that the troops need to be pulled out. Jumping on the Halliburton issue hasn't worked in the past, and it won't work in the future. Or have you forgotten every single Halliburton scandal that went absolutely nowhere? How many times has Cheney resigned for his twisted business dealings? How many times has he been impeached?

So stay on point.

The idea, also, that we would want to come across as disingenuously as we do arguing freaking idiotic semantics is utterly and completely retarded. Venture, first and foremost, means "dangerous endeavor". To pretend that it doesn't is stupid. To pretend that you don't know the most common meaning of venture is to admit to having an inferior vocabulary.

You want a progressive agenda to get ahead? You want it to get ahead when we're going to be facing Guiliani? Then like me, you'll stay on point, argue the facts, elaborate on key issues, and leave semantic crap to the assholes at Faux.