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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 05:57 AM
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Imus says after they hang Cheney
they should court marshall all the generals linked to Walter Reed. He is really angry about Building 8.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:03 AM
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1. Wait till he finds out about Abu Ghraib.
He'll really be pissed about the Iraqi kids they raped and tortured over there.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:04 AM
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2. It ain't over yet....peeps are gonna burn when the investigation is through
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:10 AM
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3. Prolly just another bad apple.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 06:12 AM by Hubert Flottz
Nothing is ever anybody at the top's fault. The Top Brass are like little lambs.

EDIT...to GOP government hating bean counters, broken people don't count, just beans count.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 02:44 AM
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45. Corp Greed has infected our Gov't Minds...its all about SHINE...
Between Pain and Profit....Guess what wins 90% of the time

Too many of us are in pain and no one cares enough to reverse the trend....it keeps getting WORSE
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:14 AM
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4. gotta love the imus!
he's brave, and he speaks what he feels... I love when he talks to Kerry and chides him jokingly, and when he's pissed, boy does he let it rip. like with this building 18 deal!
thanks for the info!

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- antibush prodem stickers/shirts
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:28 AM
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5. I can't stand Imus
but every now and then he delivers some great rants.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:31 AM
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6. He has really been outraged about the Walter Reed fiasco.
I have started watching him on MSNBC because I just can't stand CNN anymore.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:40 AM
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7. I never watch CNN in the morning
Local news, BBC or CSpan. The TV was on MSNBC since KO last night.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:06 AM
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27. How did you make it through the Scarborough
AnnaNicole-Brittany-American Idol-Oscar Hour? I listened to an NPR podcast.
I agree, CNN has become unwatchable.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:07 AM
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39. Scarborough has some very good anti-war rants,
and all of his guests in the Iraq War segments lately have been dead on and very well-spoken. He's the only right-wing show I can stand to watch when the topic is the war - and those parts are very well done. But to your point, the annabrit stories are too much for me and I turn the TV off -- but in fairness, even KO does segments about celebrities and entertainers in a mocking way - and Scarborough is mocking them too. And even I admit the story last night about the judge on the Smith case breaking into tears WAS bizarre and sort of interesting.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:57 AM
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9. Me either
But you are right, every now and again he does deliver. He was instrumental in getting the death benefits for the families of fallen soldiers raised by embarrassing members of congress. He also chided many famous people into raising money for the Fisher house for the wounded soldiers. Even Bush senior who ended up donating something like 5,000 dollars which Imus blasted at the paltry amount.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:53 AM
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8. where's imus outrage about the reason why walter reed is full of wounded soldiers?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 06:59 AM
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10. Valid point but isn't that why
he's recommending a hanging for Cheney. And yes he's way late.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:08 AM
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12. He's against the war from what I've heard
What I like about Imus is when he's on the right side of an issue he's just as outspoken as when he's in the wrong. Like Lou Dobbs, when he's good he's very very good but when he's bad he's horrid.
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:08 AM
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28. Against the war but supported Lieberman. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:40 PM
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43. "hang cheney" and bush slides
AGAIN? Did anyone twist his arm to go out and act like our little dictator?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:04 AM
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11. Something got this guy looking in the right direction
For the last six years he has been on the bush buttkissing side. It is a shame he had to have his eyes opened by something like this. It is a shame he could not see what the two monsters in the white house have been doing all along. Sending out military into battle with half the equipment and protection they needed, while Halliburton is gorged with money. It sure is a shame but I am so glad people like him all around the country FINALLY have their eyes opened at last.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:21 AM
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15. Not exactly true
He stated publicly in 2004 that he was voting for Kerry.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:18 AM
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13. The Silent Rage...
I was surprised the other night...in an online chat I've participated in for many years, there's an Iraqi vet who stops in. When I first encountered him several years ago, he was about to go on his first tour and was as rabid a flying monkey as one could hear. He couldn't wait to go "kill A-rabs" and "revenge 9/11"...and worshiped anything and everything booshie and Repugnicans stood for. A year ago, he went back on his second tour. His bravado was still there...but no longer for booshie, but strictly for his buddies and the military. The war problems were all because of Clinton and while he was still spewing the talking points, it was no longer with the furvor it had...and he was ridiculing booshie; saying it was Rummy who really was in charge.

The other night I ran into him...and how the worm has turned. He may get the call anyday to start getting ready for tour #3...and its wearing on him. His limbo status makes it impossible for him to get a job and those who've seen him say he's aged a great deal and is a lot quieter than he once was. Last night the discussion was about Walter Reed and the veterans situation, and he just let loose. His benefits had been cut (a year earlier he denied that was happening) and the revelation of the mess at Walter Reed started him on a rant of how "boooosh never cared about the military" and "we're getting spat on" (including Democrats and us evil "libruls" as being the cause...you can't win 'em all). Someone asked him if he would favor boooshie's impeachment...he went a step further...he called for a court martial.

The chickenhawks have overplayed their abuse of the military. From the contractors to the back door draft to the cuts in assistance for families and medical benefits to extended stays...our military is exhausted and boooshie wants to stick them into more dangerous situations. There's a silent rage going on in the military...how it plays out will be determined on how much longer this regime abuses the military.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:35 AM
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19. ...he called for a court martial.
Thats an interesting idea.
I wonder,as commander in chief,could he be court-martialed?

Probable not but it is an interesting thought.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:41 AM
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21. I Thought So, Too
Maybe there's a military law expert around who knows how one removes a "Commander In Chief". Or if this has to be done with votes in the House and Senate (like an impeachment).
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:09 AM
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29. no
he is a civilian that is in charge of the military. no court martial is possible as he isnt in the armed forces, just in charge of them.


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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:17 AM
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31. I know
A guy can dream though.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:28 AM
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33. That is correct..
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:21 AM
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14. He just said that Susan Sarandon supports the troops more than these Generals
He said the Sarandon had been talking to him weeks ago about the deplorable conditions that these soldiers are forced to live in. He said he didn't know if she knew about the article ahead of time. Nice to see him give props where props are due.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:22 AM
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16. That was a great point
In fairness to Imus, he has always supported post-war care for the troops. Indeed on this matter, he has been a leader on MSM.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:30 AM
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17. Yes, he has
And this isn't something that he just jumped on the bandwagon with either. This has been a long running theme with him. Good for him. He does have a big listener-ship and hopefully those that are listening to him regularly will start to see the hypocrisy of "supporting our troops" as the rhetoric that it is.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:31 AM
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18. That's why the Walter Reed scandal is
so important. It exposes Bushco big time. They don't give a fugg about the troops.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:35 AM
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20. Yep, Bushco can have all the photo ops in the world with the troops
But the Walter Reed conditions says it all. The wait at VA hospitals says it all. Sending soldiers back into combat with severe mental conditions says it all.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:48 AM
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24. That's an interesting point.
His audience isn't huge, and it tends to be people who are not progressive democrats. They tend to be people who, like Don, are republicans who are okay with conservative democrats .... or who are fairly rigid republicans, like Bernard.

So, progressive democrats do not tend to listen to Imus to expand their consciousness. The show may provide some entertainment, and an interesting guest every now and then. But for his usual audience, who would have largely supported President Bush and VP Cheney in 2003, having Imus focus on some of the issues that he has recently -- including the Libby trial, the VA, and especially the horrors of the war -- he is without doubt influencing their perception.

The country isn't going to end the war and reject the neoconservative/OVP agenda because those who are the usual Imus listeners transform into progressive democrats. The change will come when, as the recent polls show, those people in the middle no longer support the Bush-Cheney administration, and move in the direction that the progressive democrats have been for so long. That's the value of the Imus show.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:12 AM
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30. Well said H2O man
That is the value of Imus.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:33 AM
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41. Good Point....but ayyyyyy it's hard to listen to him cozying up
with whore media and some whore politicians who fawn all over him while he toys with them.

Given we have so little political comment (expecially now with the latest "crackdown") I listen to him if he has someone on interesting to me. But, I always feel cheated after listening.

Might be because I'm one of the Progressives...you speak about. :D

Anyway..good point about who he might influence. But, I remember the early Radio Imus when he truly poked fun at everyone and hypocracy...before he became a RW and Media tool...so I guess i'm one who is more startled by his Pimpdom.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:44 AM
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22. Some people have more patience and are better with words than I
ever will be. Thank God for Sarandon.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:47 AM
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23. KO should interview her n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:56 AM
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25. Especially since Imus is mainstreaming her views.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:01 AM
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26. I agree n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:23 AM
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32. The administration won't allow Imus access to entire Walter Reed facility
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/22/imus-reed/

This morning, Imus updated his audience, reporting that administration officials called him and said he could take a limited guided tour of the facilities. Imus explained, “They will cherry pick some places for me to go look at, but they don’t want me just going down there looking at the entire facility. I’m not interested in having that.”
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:55 AM
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34. Would you think that Imus would be more angry
if he were a vet?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:16 AM
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36. Imus was in the Marines
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:52 AM
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38. He played bugle or something in the Marine band or corps or something n/t
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 11:20 AM
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40. but that didn't make him a vet
and I don't think that 57-59 (according to Wikipedia) would have had him in Vietnam ... if it were today, he'd have been shipped off now ...
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:16 AM
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35. visualize nuremberg impeachment.
ohm.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 03:24 AM
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47. How about The Hague for the war criminal? n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:45 AM
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37. sL-IMUS is slime, pure and simple. He's just grandstanding on a real issue for his own benefit
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 10:09 AM by UTUSN
He's just a circus FREAK, with apologies to freaks. Whatever actual good he does with his charity, I compartmentalize that over in some corner.

I was going to answer some negatives posts in my thread of a couple of days ago, or start a new one about he's-at-it-again-today, but I'll just piggy-back and not clutter.

sL-IMUS is just latching on to this one, OCCASIONAL REAL concern for his own grandstanding. I said (in the other thread), he habitually, continually absolves Shrub-CHEENEE by skipping over their responsibility (for anything) lightly, while devoting 99% of his rants to a long list of Dems.

In today's performance/act, after the legitimate news reading about the senate Dems initiating a binding resolution to replace the Iraq-Attack-resolution, sL-IMUS immediately DISTRACTED from this by demanding that the Dems abandon this and do something about the Walter Reed situation. Repeating, his constant shtick is to interrupt legitimate points and DISTRACTING with his antics and changing the focus away from Shrub-CHEENEE's responsibility and accountability.

In the previous thread a poster said I had left out his "introduction" to sL-IMUS's rant where he said the blame "started with (Shrub-CHEENEE)," but I plainly said he uses the Libertarian model of skipping over Shrub-CHEENEE by saying "I'm not for Shrub BUT they-ALL-do-it", giving Shrub-CHEENEE ONE SECOND of air time while BLASTING Dems for 5 minutre rants and repeating the rants endlessly.

One poster blessed my thread by saying that he didn't know why we have to endure DAILY sL-IMUS threads because sL-IMUS only is seen/heard by "TWENTY people". Uh, I don't have the numbers, but he's in 3rd place in biggest audiences, something like that? Plus, it has often been noted here that he is the gateway to the White-male demographic (Zeus help us). Why is that person NOT posting to carp HERE in THIS thread? I sure wish such blessings would hide my threads or put me on IGNORE.

Somebody else carped that I should just NOT listen and quit my griping, that all I'm doing is helping his ratings. I am not a NIELSEN household and have NO impact on his ratings. Plus, a large part of DU discussions has to do with opposition research. If all of the threads about LIMBOsevic, Faux, Tweety, sL-IMUS, et al., were disappeared, most of the threads would be gone.

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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:32 PM
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42. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

:kick:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 07:41 PM
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44. "Court martial."
Just FYI.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 03:04 AM
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46. Not a bad idea, especially for Imus.
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