Wonkette: We Hate To Bring Up the Nazis, But They Fled To South America, Too

[Raster]

This SOOOOOO deserves it very own thread!

http://wonkette.com/politics/george-w.-bush/we-hate-to-bring-up-the-nazis-but-they-fled-to-south-america-too-208549.php

Our paranoid friends over at Bring It On have put together a story that hasn’t exactly made Washington Whispers. It’s real short and real simple:

The Cuban news service reports that George W. Bush has purchased 98,840 acres in Paraguay, near the Bolivian/Brazilian border.

Jenna Bush paid a secret diplomatic visit to Paraguayan President Nicanor Duarte and U.S. Ambassador James Cason. There were no press conferences, no public sightings and no official confirmation of her 10-day trip which apparently ended this week.

The Paraguayan Senate voted last summer to “grant U.S. troops immunity from national and International Criminal Court (ICC) jurisdiction.”

Immediately afterwards, 500 heavily armed U.S. troops arrived with various planes, choppers and land vehicles at Mariscal Estigarribia air base, which happens to be at the northern tip of Paraguay near the Bolivian/Brazilian border. More have reportedly arrived since then.

<snip, more>

http://wonkette.com/politics/george-w.-bush/we-hate-to-bring-up-the-nazis-but-they-fled-to-south-america-too-208549.php

[havocmom]

1. All those BILLION$ in cash gone missing in Iraq can buy a lot of immunity

And isn't that land over or near one of the largest aquifers in the (soon to be thirsty) world? Leave it to the BFEE to find a way to make a safe hide out also a profitable hideout.

[stickernation]

75. don't forget the gold from the world trade center vaults !!!

where's that linkylink... oh here it is:
http://911review.com/motive/gold.html

[Just-plain-Kathy]

91. stickernation, Welcome to DU and thanks for the link.

Now that Bush has made the dollar nearly worthless, all that gold is worth a lot more money.

[Mnemosyne]

95. Guarani Aquifer. Moon owns land there also. link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1847934.stm

[Raster]

2. Come on, GREATEST Page please!!! This deserves some legs!

[Angela Shelley]

3. Good thread, Raster!

[gratuitous]

4. Now you're just talking crazy!

That would be like saying, I dunno, the Bush administration would compromise a CIA agent's cover in wartime just for political purposes.

[seemslikeadream]

5. What's a war criminal to do?

[TheDebbieDee]

6. This land purchase is old news to most of us on DU.........

The land was purchased during the visit when Jenna was prompted by the US Ambassador to leave the country because of her raucus, drunken, slutty behavior in the hotel in which she was staying. This happened sometime in the fall of 2005, I think.

I'll check and see if I can find a link to a newstory........

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1928928,00.html

ETA: link to Gaurdian article.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Old news

Hey .... Wonkette ...... read DU, dude (yes, dude .... Wonkette I is long gone). This was known around here months ago.

[havocmom]

21. But watch, it will get 'debunked' yet again by corporate media

as soon as it hits enough blog pages again. They don't want it pointed out that their well planned (and well financed) escape and safe (from prosecution for crimes against America and mankind) retirement is actually a guilty plea for the crimes many have accused them of and which they continue to deny.

Given how short the collective attention span is (to be fair, millions are busy struggling to survive) it is good this all comes up again and again. Takes a lot of repetition of facts to get it sifted through all the veils of obfuscation the PNACers have laid over things.

[Raster]

26. The usual tactic is first labeling something "conspiracy theory," which in the era of

...cheney*/bush* means "HEY, look over there, don't look here!" Followed by "...now do you really believe that...?" Followed by "...do you realize how many millions of people blah, blah, blah...?" Followed by "I cannot believe you would even consider this crap...." Followed by attacking the messenger, not the message. And then finally, "no one told us, how were we supposed to know...?"

Yeah, been there, done that. Have the shitty pResident to prove it.

Wake up America!:kick:

[havocmom]

27. Yeah, that IS their style of "debunking"

Seems to be losing some of its former power lately.

Keep sounding the wake up call! :patriot:

[Raster]

28. I will and have for years. Yes, Jane and Joe America, it really is this bad.

The good news, WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Wake up America!:kick:

[defendandprotect]

58. Yes -- but a lot of time has been lost for these issues .... from Global Warming to

our decades of political violence and election steals by computer ---

[defendandprotect]

59. How do you just post 500 of our troops in Paraguay to protect a president's property --- ????

[peacetalksforall]

93. The military are there to take over Bolivia. They are hot after Bolivia.

Bechtel and a French firm privatized their water and the people took it back. They have a President that rose up from the people. They have gas, tin, minerals, gems, and lots of other things our tax paid explorations paid for. How can they let that go? Their problem is that Paraguay and Bolivia are the only two land locked countries in South America. On the other hand, the rising seas may not get to them.

The question to ask is whether other countries are going to allow them addiitonal air bases to circle around and protect those human hating monsters that we gave birth to.

Chavez is right for trying to talk to the other countries and help them become free of the World Bank and othe predator money lenders who went after the blood of those countries and left them with poverty and former Presidents who reside in nice places around the world. Think Marbella.

This article contains nothing new to us except the figures related to the military.

Also, if I remember correctly, Jenna acted up in Buenos Aires before or after her mission in Paraguay.

[defendandprotect]

106. Thanks for the info --- didn't know . . . should have known . . .

Chavez is right for trying to talk to the other countries and help them become free of the World Bank and othe predator money lenders who went after the blood of those countries and left them with poverty and former Presidents who reside in nice places around the world. Think Marbella.

Love Chavez ---
Loved the end "conclusions" of Naomi Klein's book "Shock Doctrine" --
Will have to go back to finish it --- a tough read!


Took Latin America more than 30 years to try to recover from all we have done there ---!!

I'm not sure that we created these people --- but they truly are monsters.

Thanks again for the info --- poor Paraguay and Bolivia!!

But --- doesn't the Congress have anything to say about 500 of our troops being moved to Paraguay?????

How can this be happening --- ???

[nichomachus]

98. Blackwater

How do you post "our" troops? You just send in Blackwater. If I were a fleeing dictator looking for someone to protect me, I'd call Blackwater. They're better equipped, more ruthless, without conscience, better paid. To foreigners, the US military and Blackwater are the same entity.

[defendandprotect]

108. Yes . . . but who approves this? Congress --- ? We're paying for this --

doesn't someone have to approve it?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

55. yawn...

We've always beat the MSN to the real scoops. :evilgrin:

:hi:

[otherlander]

67. I remember when the generals-want-Rumsfeld-fired story broke on DU.

Two weeks later, it showed up in my local paper.

We rule.

[NightWatcher]

8. if it walks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi...........

[Raster]

10. If it goosesteps like a Nazi...

I hear they've found a chache of vintage SS uniforms....Eric Prince has first dibs!

[Uncle Joe]

9. I have three questions

1. Has the corporate media reported on this yet?

2. I wonder how many of those special forces troops are Blackwater Mercenaries?

3. I believe this area encompasses one of, if not the world's largest fresh water reservoirs, does this mean Bush really believes in Global Warming and could this be his planned lifeboat?

[Raster]

11. No, probably a bunch and yes it does.

Blackwater: The 21st century fusion of the Praetorian Guard and the SS.

[Ilsa]

12. Running away for the upcoming depression * is throwing us into. nt

[Ilsa]

14. We need to start emailing this around: tell the recipients to Google

"bush buys land in paraguay" and look throw the surprisingly consistent results. I hope people start talking.

[Raster]

15. As I've watched this absolute train wreck called cheney*/bush*, I've thought to myself...

...surely this assholes realize the horrendous damage they are causing to this country. Surely even they recognize a complete cluster-fuck in process. And then I ask myself "why are they doing this, don't they care?" I have come to the conclusion that YES cheney*/bush* and their evil minions do realize the catastrophe(s) they have visited on the good ol" U-S-of-A, and NO, they don't care. In fact, cheney*/bush* can best be likened to "strip mining" and "scorched Earth" as they rape, plunder and pillage before the 747 leaves for Paraguay. The parasitical BFEE are sucking the value out of everything they can get their hands on before the exodus to South America.

[NJCher]

13. former Paragyayan posted on the blog thread

3) The land which Bush allegdely (sic) bought is not located on the Guarani aquifer itself, but it's located on the northern, arid portion of Paraguay. So let's not fan any more conspiracy theories by stating that is an attempt to "seize the strategic guarani aquifer."



Cher

[Raster]

18. Hmmm, maybe someone should tell Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaran%C3%AD_Aquifer

Concerns of U.S. strategic presence
The Argentine film called Sed, Invasión Gota a Gota ("Thirst, Invasion Drop by Drop"), directed by Mausi Martínez, portrays the military of the United States as slowly but steadily increasing its presence in the Triple Frontera (Triple Frontier, the area around the common borders of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil). The overt reason for the increasing presence of U.S. troops and joint exercises, mainly with Paraguay, is to monitor the large Arab population which resides in the area. However, Martínez alleges that it is the water which brings the Americans to the area, and she fears a subtle takeover before the local governments even realize what is going on.

Similar concerns were lifted following both the signature of a military training agreement with Paraguay, which accorded immunity to U.S. soldiers and was indefinitely renewable (something which had never been done before, while Donald Rumsfeld himself visited Paraguay and, for the first time ever, Paraguayan president Nicanor Duarte Frutos went to the White House), and the construction of a U.S. military base near the airport of Mariscal Estigarribia, within 200 km of Argentina and Bolivia and 300 km of Brazil. The airport can receive large planes (B-52, C-130 Hercules, etc.) which the Paraguayan Air Force does not possess. <2> <3>. The governments of Paraguay and the United States subsequently ostensibly declared that the use of an airport (Dr Luís María Argaña International)<1> was one point of transfer for few soldiers in Paraguay at the same time. According to the Argentine newspaper Clarín, the U.S. military base is strategic because of its location near the Triple Frontier, its proximity to the Guaraní Aquifer, and its closeness to Bolivia (less than 200 km) at the same "moment that Washington's magnifying glass goes on the Altiplano and points toward Venezuelan Hugo Chávez — the regional devil according to the Bush administration — as the instigator of the instability in the region" (El Clarín <3>). The U.S. State Department firmly <2> these allegations.

[AikidoSoul]

57. U.S. Military in Paraguay Prepares to "Spread Democracy"

http://upsidedownworld.org/main/content/view/47/44/



U.S. Military in Paraguay Prepares To "Spread Democracy" (Sept 2005)

Controversy is raging in Paraguay, where the U.S. military is conducting secretive operations. 500 U.S. troops arrived in the country on July 1st with planes, weapons and ammunition. Eyewitness reports prove that an airbase exists in Mariscal Estigarribia, Paraguay, which is 200 kilometers from the border with Bolivia and may be utilized by the U.S. military. Officials in Paraguay claim the military operations are routine humanitarian efforts and deny that any plans are underway for a U.S. base. Yet human rights groups in the area are deeply worried. White House officials are using rhetoric about terrorist threats in the tri-border region (where Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina meet) in order to build their case for military operations, in many ways reminiscent to the build up to the invasion of Iraq. (1)

The tri-border area is home to the Guarani Aquifer, one of the world’s largest reserves of water. Near the Estigarribia airbase are Bolivia’s natural gas reserves, the second largest in Latin America. Political analysts believe U.S. operations in Paraguay are part of a preventative war to control these natural resources and suppress social uprisings in Bolivia.

Argentine Nobel Peace Prize laureate Adolfo Perez Esquivel commented on the situation in Paraguay, "Once the United States arrives, it takes it a long time to leave. And that really frightens me." (2)

The Estigarribia airbase was constructed in the 1980s for U.S. technicians hired by the Paraguayan dictator Alfredo Stroessner, and is capable of housing 16,000 troops. A journalist writing for the Argentine newspaper Clarin, recently visited the base and reported it to be in perfect condition, capable of handling large military planes. It’s oversized for the Paraguayan air force, which only has a handful of small aircraft. The base has an enormous radar system, huge hangars and an air traffic control tower. The airstrip itself is larger than the one at the international airport in Asuncion, the Paraguayan capital. Near the base is a military camp which has recently grown in size. (3)

"Estigarribia is ideal because it is operable throughout the year…I am sure that the U.S. presence will increase," said Paraguayan defense analyst Horacio Galeano Perrone. (4)

Denials and Immunity

"The national government has not reached any agreement with the United States for the establishment of a U.S. military base" in Paraguay, states a communiqué signed by Paraguayan Foreign Minister Leila Rachid. The U.S. Embassy in Paraguay has also released statements officially denying plans to set up a military base in the country. (5)

The Pentagon used this same language when describing its actions in Manta, Ecuador, now the home of an $80 million U.S. military base. First they said the facility was an archaic "dirt strip" which would be used for weather monitoring and would not permanently house U.S. personnel. Days later, the Pentagon stated that Manta was to serve as a major military base tasked with a variety of security-related missions. (6)

Paraguayan political analyst and historian Milda Rivarola said that, "in practice, there has already been a (U.S.) base operating in Paraguay for over 50 years." The U.S. armed forces have had an ongoing presence in the country, she said. "In the past, they needed congressional authorization every six months, but now they have been granted permission to be here for a year and a half." (7)

On May 26, 2005 the Paraguayan Senate granted the U.S. troops total immunity from national and International Criminal Court jurisdiction until December 2006. The legislation is automatically extendable. Since December 2004, the U.S. has been pressuring Peru, Ecuador, Venezuela and Paraguay into signing a deal which would grant immunity to U.S. military. The Bush administration threatened to deny the countries up to $24.5 million in economic and military aid if they refused to sign the immunity deal. Paraguay was the only country to accept the offer. (8)

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

[AntiFascist]

77. My pet theory is that...

they will explode a terrorist nuke in the US, blame it on some country like Venezuela, then launch an invasion. Isn't the Bush property right next to that owned by co-fascist Sun Myung Moon?

[Judi Lynn]

84. The Bush family friend, Rev. Sun Myung Moon owns a huge tract of land right above the Guarani

aquifer. It's been discussed at D.U. exhaustively. Here's a quick google grab, something published in Buzzflash:

Subject: More Impeachable Offenses Ignored by Congress

More reasons to impeach Bush for abuse of power:

He doesn't believe in Separation of Church and State. He uses our tax dollars without Congressional approval (Rumsfeld, too). They haven't been excused of criminal prosecution by the UN, World Court, or US citizens.

August 9, 2005 -- U.S. base in Paraguay established to protect Sun Myung Moon's water and land resources.

With U.S. troops currently protecting Halliburton's oil operations in Iraq and the CentGas pipeline in Afghanistan, U.S. troops are now being sent to Paraguay, complete with immunity from criminal prosecution by Paraguay or the International Criminal Court, to protect the millions of acres of Paraguayan water and land resources bought over the years by religious cult leader Sun Myung Moon. It is not coincidental that Moon's Unification Church has many followers within the Bush administration. Last month, 500 U.S. troops arrived in Paraguay to expand the Mariscal Estigarriba air base to handle large U.S. military transport planes. Moon's land acquisitions in Chaco Province are just north of the huge Guarani aquifer, one of the world's largest sources of fresh water. In addition, Moon has acquired large tracts of land on the Brazilian side of the Paraguayan border. Local villagers in Paraguay and Brazil claim that most of Moon's land acquisitions were fraudulent and illegal. Moon's World Unification Church operates in Paraguay under a corporate contrivance called the Victoria Company. Paraguay has also announced that everyone entering and leaving Paraguay will be photographed and fingerprinted. Not coincidentally, the new border control system is being financed by South Korea.

There is clearly a split within the Paraguayan government, with the Vice President and Pentagon neo-con ally Luis Castiglioni negotiating, along with a majority in the Paraguayan Congress, close bilateral military ties with the United States, apparently without the concurrence of President Nicanor Duarte. It is no coincidence that considering the oil-centric Bush administration, the Mariscal Estigarriba air base is close to large Bolivian natural gas reserves in the neighboring Bolivian provinces of Santa Cruz and Tarija.
The U.S. move in Paraguay comes at the same time the U.S. is stepping up its "counter-narcotics" operations from its Manta, Ecuador base and Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez is accusing the United States of using Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) personnel in Latin America as espionage agents trying to destabilize his government. In addition, the Paraguayan military operations are seen as a Bush administration attempt to intimidate neighboring Bolivia, where MAS Socialist party and coca farmer (cocalero) leader Evo Morales is poised to become the next President in scheduled December elections after years of popular demonstrations which saw Bolivian workers and peasants deposing a series of pro-U.S. presidents. A Morales government would add another anti-U.S. and free trade government in South America, joining Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, and Venezuela.

So soon, the mothers and fathers of U.S. military personnel will be able to take comfort in sacrificing the lives of their sons and daughters for a self-proclaimed Messiah, a non-English speaking Korean who claims to have saved the souls of Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Buddha, Stalin, and Hitler and communicates regularly with others in his departed flock of adherents, including all the deceased Presidents of the United States (who, Moon claims, appointed Richard Nixon as their spokesman from the "hereafter").

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=3447

http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/06/05/mai06118.html

[earth mom]

16. Old News...but important nonetheless. Guess we should trot out all the MIHOP/LIHOP stuff too

and all the other crimes of the BFEE for all the newbies and those who aren't paying attention and are supporting Obama & Hillary because Oprah & Bill & the corporate media whores told them to. :puke:

[mod mom]

17. Don't forget Rev Moon figures in here:

Investment firms snatching up power plants, plus three more industry trends explained by Hoover's Editors. Read more or download a free report.

Europe Intelligence Wire/October 14, 2004

Paraguay -- The Reverend Moon has carved out a section of Paraguay that is twice the size of Luxembourg. Seamus Mirodan went to see it

Reverend Sun Myung Moon, spiritual leader of the Unification Church, self-proclaimed Messiah, multimillionaire and a generous contributor to the US Republican Party, has been showing a strong interest over the last five years in little-known Paraguay at the centre of the South American continent.

Since 1999, Rev Moon has built his personal empire which begins on the marshy banks of the River Paraguay and stretches beyond the hazy, level horizon through 600,000 hectares of arid land - equivalent to more than two Luxembourgs - punctuated by solitary clusters of withered trees and sad bushes which struggle desperately for air.

The scorching sun beats relentlessly on one of Latin America's most desolate zones. It is here in the northern province of Chaco, directly above the GuaranI aquifer, the largest resource of fresh drinking water in the world, where Moon's associates claim he wishes to build an ecological paradise.

Nevertheless, national Senator Domingo Laino sees a different pattern in Moon's acquisitions. "There are two principal branches to Moon's interest in Paraguay," he said, "control of the largest fresh drinking water source in the world and control of the narcotics business", which is so prevalent in this area. "President Lula told me that Brazil took serious measures to curb Moon a few years back as it became evident that he was buying up the border between our two countries," said the senator.

-snip

Paraguay is the major drugs port through which virtually all the cocaine produced by Bolivia and Peru passes. In the world's second most corrupt country, "the ease of buying influence is second to none", said Montiel. "Corruption reaches dangerous levels and he who wants transparency in Paraguay is a dead man. Indeed the famous Iran contra affair was operated from Ciudad del Este" on the south-east Paraguayan border with Argentina and Brazil.

-snip

http://www.rickross.com/reference/unif/unif240.html

[Karenina]

22. Moon? You mean THIS Moon???

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04179/337795.stm

[loudsue]

72. Is that Gonzo? Third from left to right?

That whole scene was sick sick sick sick.

[wintersoulja]

23. lotta Coke, yep I was gonna say

My uncle's connection was from Paraguay. Dead bodies, violence, addicts, local politicians, suicides. How many suicides in the 80's from Coke addiction?
I know of half a dozen myself, including my uncle's fourth wife.
He died of throat cancer. Lotta benzene in that stuff back then.
How did everyone else do in the Bush drug biz 80's?

[jeff30997]

51. "Paraguay...world's second most corrupt country"

And #1 is...? The U.S? :hide:

[gaspee]

19. Isn't Paraguay

One of those countries without US extradition?

[Raster]

20. !DING! We have a winnah!!!!

[mod mom]

30. Look at this:

US-Paraguay Extradition Treaty

Snip from Letter of Submittal 1999

As is customary in extradition treaties, Article IV incorporates a political offense exception to the obligation to extradite. Article IV(1) states generally that extradition shall not be granted for a political offense. The article expressly excludes from the reach of the political offense exception several categories of offenses:
(a) a murder or other willful crime against the physical integrity of the Head of State of one of the Parties, or of a member of the Head of State’s family;
(b) an offense for which both Parties are obliged pursuant to a multilateral international agreement to extradite the person sought or submit the case to their competent authorities for decision as to prosecution; and
(c) a conspiracy or attempt to commit the offenses described above, or participation in the commission of such offenses.
Article IV(2) provides that extradition shall not be granted if the competent authority of the Requested State determines that the request was politically motivated.
Article IV(3) provides that the Requested State may refuse extradition for offenses under military law that are not offenses under ordinary criminal law (for example, desertion).

oas.org

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1743

[proud patriot]

64. Wholly Cow

:grr:

[OneBlueSky]

24. Paraguay: Global Headquarters of the New World Order . . . n/t

.

[oasis]

25. the slimy snake.

:puke:

[Cleita]

29. Hmmm. I hope they enjoy life among the headhunters. n/t

[lebkuchen]

31. Bolivia continues to be exploited by the likes of the Bushies

I feel so sorry for the Bolivians.

[malaise]

32. Who will arrest these bastards? n/t

[FiveGoodMen]

35. Not Hillary. She SAID -- OUT LOUD -- that she'd send GHWB on world diplomatic tour!

[defendandprotect]

62. You're kidding --- !!?? Hillary couldn't have said anything like that --- could she????

[peacetalksforall]

100. Maybe worse - on her website - front page - a paragraph listing her favorite

Presidents - two of them are George H. W. Bush and Ronald Reagan. I am still hoping it's a fraudulent site.

[jwirr]

46. It wasn't to long ago when there was a much easier way to get rid

of people they did not like. I would be very afraid if I were *ss.

[personman]

82. No one. Ever.

If the republicans don't see to it, the democrats will, good commissars that they are...

Also, it's not really "fleeing" if no one is after you.

I'd love to believe that karma exists and that war criminals will spend their remaining days hiding in seedy alleyways and sewers, constantly looking over their shoulders for members of groups they've been oppressing...In reality, he'll probably live out his incurious, arrogant, wretched excuse for a life in the sort of luxury 99% of us could never dream of.

[peacetalksforall]

101. He will be kept safe by a circle of females - mother, wife, daughters and Rice, maybe Perino .

and Matalin, Coulter, and Malkin.

[BuyingThyme]

33. You are not safe, Bushees.

We will find you and send you to prison.

[bvar22]

34. Paraguay will NOT escape the Bolivarian Reforms

which are currently sweeping across South America. (The BEST news never reported in the US Media) :)

The current Right Wing Oligarchy of Paraguay will be over thrown, and rich white war criminals trying to hide there will meet their deserved fates.

[juno jones]

39. A-MEN!

Been contemplating this myself...just wait until the tides of history catch up to them.

[frog92969]

41. Hope they pick up the pace on that

or we may have to invade.

[puebloknot]

87. Play it again, Sam! nt

[upi402]

36. I'm sure Wolf Blitzer is all over it

phlechk<:eyes:

[defendandprotect]

60. Wolf may be going with them . . . Remember when Nixon left . .. Diane Sawyer was on the plane!!

[upi402]

65. True. And maybe why she was suspected of being 'Deep Throat' n/t

[defendandprotect]

68. Well, first I don't think she had the knowledge --- it had to be someone

inside the LEGAL system --- someone reading the transcripts witness questioning, etal ---

Second, I think Diane loved Nixon to the end --- didn't she?

Remember the funeral they had for the bastard?

[upi402]

85. Mark Felt was a far cry from her

as the FBI's #2 man he was a world away from her.

[smoogatz]

37. It just keeps getting creepier.

What's new here is the Moonie connection. New to me, anyway.

[vanboggie]

69. If you really want to get creeped out

Google rev moon + bush and you'll find lots of reading material. :yoiks:

[0007]

96. Rev moon + bush + Ken Lay + little dick + who knows = Kingdom of Heaven

[liberal hypnotist]

38. The first ex-patriot president?

Paraguay is a great place for George W. I think there are many people in this country who would love to give him a good whack up the side of the head . The New Nazi movement will rally around young George and finally, he will receive the accolades he has so long deserved. Will Condi be allowed to go? How about "Lies" Powell? Of course, Dickhead Chaney will want his own country too. A couple of real princes.

[Joanne98]

40. He can't hide in Paraguay. there's a LW Catholic Bishop that's gunning for him

[defendandprotect]

63. Yeah, but Bush will probably be "born again" --- so that will even everything out!!!

[puebloknot]

88. Puts abortion in a new light, doesn't it? nt

[sarcasmo]

42. Corporate Whores already have their no extradition hideout. Rec #60

[scarletwoman]

43. This news is from October 2006. Look at the dates on the comments.

I remember well when it first came out. I've been hoping for an update with maybe some further information, but this Wonkette post is not an update, it's the original year-and-a-half-old story.

I'm pointing this out so that the other DUers reading this do not mistake it for new information.

sw

[peacetalksforall]

102. The new things for me are the names of people reproting and objecting and the numbers

involving the military. There are new places to link to. It's almost a very long article-booklet or more. If include everything about Moon and GHW Bush and their other supporters, it's about a 15 volume set.

[CaptJasHook]

44. Start the monitoring

As long as the astard is out of this country. He was never really American to begin with. I feel the same about all NAZI sympathizers and 50% of Texas. We should have given it to Santa Anna.

That being said. In order to prevent his crime family from fatally infecting out country, we need to carefully watch the money and connections.

BushCo. another reason to reject the existence of a just God.

[nikto]

45. Perhaps someday...

...we will be sending in the U.S. Marines to capture the Bu$hCo
gangmembers & thugs as we did with Noriega in Panama.

After that, massive trials, disclosures of astonishing revelations
previously covered-up, followed by executions and, for the
lesser-figures, incarceration.

I can dream, can't I?

[Mnemosyne]

99. A wonderful dream nikto!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[rucognizant]

47. And WHO is Hillary going to send around as emmissary with Bill?

BUSH 41 was the first bigshot politician to go prancing around with Rev. Moon in public. Especially in South America:

“In the early stages of the Reagan Revolution that embraced the Washington Times and Moon’s anti-Communist movement, it was embarrassing to be caught at a Moon event,” wrote The Gadflyer last year. “Until George H.W. Bush appeared with Moon in 1996, thanking him for a newspaper that ‘brings sanity to Washington.’” That was while on an extended trip to South America in Moon’s company. A Reuters’ story of Nov 25 of that year describes the former president as “full of praise” for Moon at a banquet in Buenos Aires, toasting him as “the man with the vision.” (And Moon helped Bush out with his own vision thing, paying him $100,000 for the pleasure of his company.) Bush and Moon then traveled together to Uruguay, “to help him inaugurate a seminary in the capital, Montevideo, to train 4,200 young Japanese women to spread the word of his Church of Unification across Latin America.”

[LiberalFighter]

48. Why are our troops being sent there?

[LiberalFighter]

49. If he does move there after leaving office he should lose his SS protection

[bonito]

50. More info here

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/28/2544/07385

My guess Dubai 2

[Laelth]

52. Interesting.

But not surprising. k&r

:dem:

-Laelth

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. Jenna must be booking her honeymoon in Paraguay?

[sce56]

54. Error: You've already recommended that thread.

The Nazi enablers at work! And don't forget from Hillary's site

But no president can do it alone. She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. As expected, Bill Clinton was also included on the aforementioned list.

[Olney Blue]

56. Isn't he supposed to run a "Freedom Institute" in Dallas?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/090907dnmetbushhome.2b7f51f.html

[mojowork_n]

61. "Paraguay: A Brief History of National Suicide (Gary Brecher, from The Exile)

Before you read:

1.) "The Exile" is kind of like Russia's answer to The Onion, if The Onion's brand of satire had any actual teeth and claws.

2.) Gary Brecher is a pseudonym for the Internet's foremost critic of that leading neo-con pseudo-historian, Victor Davis Hansen. What Stephen Colbert is to Bill O'Lielly, Brecher is to Hansen, only funnier and sadder at the same time. G.B. is also known as 'The War Nerd', and focuses almost exclusively on military topics.

3.) Reflecting the zeitgeist of it's immediate post-Soviet era founding (when just about the whole damn country was "for sale"), the "Exile" happens to feature an exceptionally degenerate 'adult' section, which may cause flutters and palpitations among some of DU's gentle readers.

Introductory excerpt:

FRESNO, CA — Name a country that lost at least two thirds of its male population fighting three countries at once, and nearly managed to beat all three before being ground down and damn near wiped out. Second clue: this happened during the second-bloodiest war ever fought in the Western Hemisphere.

Whatever country you nominated, I bet it wasn’t Paraguay during the War of the Triple Alliance, 1864-1870. To most war buffs the War of the Triple Alliance rates a big shrug, and Paraguay is more like a punchline than a country, a tiny landlocked South American sweatbox full of Nazi escapees creaking around cursing arthritis and the T-34. Paraguay is like a country by Mel Brooks.

But Paraguay is the correct answer, and I’m here to give the place its long overdue due. By the way, if you’re wondering what the first-bloodiest war in the Americas was, shame on you! Blue and Gray ring any bells? Gettysburg? America’s still got #1 all locked up, thanks to the Civil War, just possibly the greatest war ever. More than 600,000 dead, and most of them soldiers who died honorably, in open battle. Until you’ve been studying real war for a few years, you don’t realize how rare that kind of high, clean body count is. Like I’ve said before, most conflict is massacre and counter-massacre. Battles are rare.

And that reminds me, I have to quibble with these rankings, even though I feel dirty saying anything that could lower the ranking of our Civil War. What worries me is nobody seems to count the Spanish-vs-Aztec or Spanish-vs-Inca wars in the rankings. Nobody’s very sure how many people died in Mexico, but the simplest answer is “Most of ’em,” and since the Inca have been fighting the Spanish for 500 years at last count, they deserve an entry in the numbers game too.

http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=15578&IBLOCK_ID=35

[stickernation]

79. awesome

hysterical and tragic, like a pitbull on a freeway, angry and stupid.

-s

[mojowork_n]

97. Matt Taibbi's another, although he's an ex Exile columnist.

By the way, I checked out Sticker Nation to see what it was, and had one question...

How sticky are they? Is there an indoor, post-it note sticky, and an outdoor, bumper/glass sticky? Magnetic sticky, extra cost? Maybe a no-adhesive at all edition?

Have a good one.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

66. JUST MERCENARIES FROM NORTH CAROLINA, Y'ALL

[ursi]

70. unbelievable! but true?

[desertflamingo]

71. hmmm...

1) i was JUST talking about this fact about 2 days ago and googled it last nite to refresh my memory. weird to see it pop up again. 2) isn't there some kind of constitutional thing about sitting presidents buying land in foreign countries? 3) we better be jumping on cheney/bush real soon or those bastards (and i mean that in the most respectful way, fbi, cia, secret service ) will skip out of the country down to their stronghold in paraguay and that'll be the end of that. 4) we NEED to start knocking this story around - i think many more people today would be much more interested than they were in '05, no?

just sayin'... :eyes:

EDWARDS '08

[pingzing58]

73. It seems like Bush is setting himself up to grown corn for sale to the U.S. for biofuel. His family

will make a killing since we don't have the land to grow enough grain for ethanol here in the U.S. Just wondering????

[Kablooie]

74. So Bush is going to get away with EVERYTHING!

At least our children will learn the truth about life.

Crime pays a hell of a lot better than anything else you can do.

[colorado_ufo]

76. Wait a minute - didn't this transpire several years ago?

Please check the archives! It seems to my memory that several of the Bushes bought property there. Unless it was Poppy who bought before and now Jr. Please check the records.

[Fiendish Thingy]

78. um, this is from October 2006 (scroll to bottom of link) n/t

[stickernation]

80. i'm scared

largest fresh-water aquifer ? is this something to do with the water supply ?

[progressoid]

81. They also posted this little bit of "news"

http://wonkette.com/344052/george-w-bush-is-a-battered-spouse :eyes:

[Djinn]

83. Not neccesary

Nazi's fled because of the Nuremberg trials and an enormous European population who'd love to tear them limb from limb.

Whoever becomes the next US President will not seek to bring the crimes of the Bush administration to justice. Why would they open that Pandora's box?

No-one was ever brought to task over Vietnam - ignoring a democratic vote, supporting a corrupt unelected authoritarian leader, illegal warfare, deforestation of a third of the country, dumping chemicals that continue to wreak havoc on Vietnamese people, bombing of Laos and cambodia, torture and murder under Operation Phoenix and few million dead.

No-one was ever brought to task over the overthrow of Mossadegh or the murder of Lumumba

No-one was ever brought to task over SOA/WHISEC crimes

No-one was ever brought to task over the murderous Iraqi sanctions

Any future Dem admin will need to keep supporting and arming dictators, overthrowing popular foreign leaders and steal reasources from poorer nations in order to support US wealth. There is no other way to sustain an Empire.

There will be no Bush Family trials.

[Dangerously Amused]

92. Eh - there is still

... "an enormous European population who'd love to tear them limb from limb," along with other members of the world community whom they've either war-raped, pissed off or otherwise screwed over. Not to mention a substantial number of Americans. So a nice cozy vacation home surrounded by tons of land protected by armed bodyguards in a temperate climate with diplomatic immunity and access to lots of healthy, fresh water to see them comfortably through any potential climate catastrophes is right up a global war criminal's alley.

You're right, it may never be necessary. But why would a war criminal with more money and connections than god take that chance?

[peacetalksforall]

104. And if we project, some of the same people who wanted to tear them from limb

to limb might in turn have people wanting to them torn from limb to limb if we go in and bomb Iran. It's our leaders. The world has a leader problem. The 'wars' are always between the leaders who use the simple people do do their stealing and killing. Those leaders who seek peace and are honest with their people are so very rare in this world we live in on this earth. The consortium that Cheney and others works for - want the entire world, including some of the humans.

[Djinn]

105. I live in another part of the world community

there is not a single nation who will seek to have Bushettes brought to justice for their war crimes. certainly no-one in the "coalition" can.

besides the US has firm views on what action it will take if any of it's citizens are expected at the Hague

anyone hoping for future justice for this admin will be very disapointed

[Uncle Joe]

103. I believe global warming is the primary reason they would go there.

When climate change really hits the fan here in the U.S., they will have one of the world's largest fresh water reservoirs at their disposal. I believe Bush and his cronies know global warming is for real, they just don't believe they can or don't want to do anything about it for the people, this is their life boat for that looming catastrophe. They will abandon the tens or hundreds of millions Americans and leave them to fend for them selves just as they abandoned the victims of Katrina.

Also to some of the above posters who questioned the age of this article, what difference does that make as it's never been addressed by the corporate media? There are always new people coming on board here at D.U. who aren't aware of this and this isn't the Latest Breaking News section.

[BeHereNow]

107. And you are correct.

BBC has a great web site on the locations most likely
to sustain life in worst case GW scenario.

Naturally, the global elite are positioning themselves
and their families to survive.

Katrina to the rest of us.

BHN

[Judi Lynn]

86. Really creepy info., isn't it? Here's the SourceWatch article:

U.S. military presence in Paraguay
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Will the Bush administration soon be "spreading democracy" in Paraguay?

~snip~
U.S. secret military operations
"Controversy is raging in Paraguay, where the U.S. military is conducting secretive operations. 500 U.S. troops arrived in the country on July 1st with planes, weapons and ammunition," Toward Freedom's Benjamin Dangl wrote September 15, 2005. "Eyewitness reports prove that an airbase exists in Mariscal Estigarribia, Paraguay, which is 200 kilometers from the border with Bolivia and may be utilized by the U.S. military. Officials in Paraguay claim the military operations are routine humanitarian efforts and deny that any plans are underway for a U.S. base. Yet human rights groups in the area are deeply worried. White House officials are using rhetoric about terrorist threats in the tri-border region (where Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina meet) in order to build their case for military operations, in many ways reminiscent to the build up to the invasion of Iraq."

Tri-border region
"Located where Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay meet, the area is home to roughly 20,000 Middle Eastern immigrants—mostly from Lebanon and Syria—and has long been a hotbed for terrorist fundraising, arms and drug trafficking, counterfeiting and money laundering. By moving freely through the region’s porous borders, operatives from the terrorist organizations Hizbollah, Hamas, and according to some reports, al-Qaeda, are able to conduct arms-for-drugs deals with secular Latin American terrorist groups like the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and Peru’s Sendero Luminosos (Shining Path). All told, U.S. officials believe that between $10 and $12 billion is funneled through the tri-border region each year, with Hizbollah among the prime beneficiaries," Erick Stakelbeck wrote March 19, 2004, in FrontPageMagazine.com.

Natural Resources
"The tri-border area is home to the Guarani Aquifer, one of the world’s largest reserves of water. Near the Estigarribia airbase are Bolivia’s natural gas reserves, the second largest in Latin America. Political analysts believe U.S. operations in Paraguay are part of a preventative war to control these natural resources and suppress social uprisings in Bolivia," Dangl wrote.

Mariscal Estigarribia airbase
"The Estigarribia airbase was constructed in the 1980s for U.S. technicians hired by the Paraguayan dictator Alfredo Stroessner, and is capable of housing 16,000 troops," Dangl wrote. "A journalist writing for the Argentine newspaper Clarin, recently visited the base and reported it to be in perfect condition, capable of handling large military planes. It’s oversized for the Paraguayan air force, which only has a handful of small aircraft. The base has an enormous radar system, huge hangars and an air traffic control tower. The airstrip itself is larger than the one at the international airport in Asuncion, the Paraguayan capital. Near the base is a military camp which has recently grown in size."

Criminal Immunity
"On May 26, 2005 the Paraguayan Senate granted the U.S. troops total immunity from national and International Criminal Court jurisdiction until December 2006. The legislation is automatically extendable. Since December 2004, the U.S. has been pressuring Peru, Ecuador, Venezuela and Paraguay into signing a deal which would grant immunity to U.S. military. The Bush administration threatened to deny the countries up to $24.5 million in economic and military aid if they refused to sign the immunity deal." Dangl wrote.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=U.S._military_presence_in_Paraguay

[conspirator]

89. IT'S A DOG EAT DOG WORLD. you either eat or get eaten n/t

[SpiralHawk]

90. Commander AWOL Bush & lying Repoublicon cronies HATE America

They are just screwing America and Americans, and then planning to flee and hide like the cowardly, lying repubublicon chickenhawks they are...

[peaches2003]

94. Press should just ask him

And why doesn't the press just ask him outright? One short simple question- is it true that .... It's a yes or no question. He probably will say he won't dignify the question by answering it. Obviously this means the answer is a yes. If he says no, then when it becomes public eventually he will be proved a liar (like we need more proof). The press just never asks him short simple questions to pin him down and you can always tell when he's lying- tells a little joke and then won't answer.