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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:09 PM
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It seems to be the general consensus
we are in a or heading into a recession. So everyone, Bush and all the candidates are now in a pissing contest to see who can come up with the better tax cut. Of course it is always the same the Republicans want tax incentives for business and the Democrats want tax cuts for working people. Didn't Bush's tax cuts, the war and the deficit cause the recession in the first place? We borrowed and spent like a drunken sailor for the last 7 years and that drove the value of the dollar down. The last time I checked the dollar was worth 67 cents against the Euro. So now we have another tax cut to stimulate the economy that will even create a larger deficit. Wouldn't it be better to just bite the bullet? I have always heard when you are in a hole to stop digging.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:16 PM
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1. and Obama is the leader to take us through that blight
When things get real bad you need a visionary that brings people together. We'll all need health insurance and only Obama can bring together the people to get it done; not to mention when all we have is words, he delivers a message of hope that is uplifting and believable. He's just like that ya'know.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:39 PM
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8. ...
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:20 PM
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2. They came in and did exactly what
they planned to do. Spend the treasury dry and give it to their friends in the oil, pharma, insurance, and defence industries and of course wall street. And they don't really give a shit if the borrowed money ever gets paid back, they already have all the money there is to be stolen and they aren't giving it up. They'll be partying in Paraguay on our social security money.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:25 PM
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5. To think we had a surplus when these
assholes got in office. That's really my point if Bush would have just left things the way they were and kept us out of the war we wouldn't be in this predicament. It's fine to run a deficit temporarily to get us out of a recession. But when you are already broke it just seems insane to do more of the same.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:20 PM
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3. We have been in a recession...
Some states were worse off than others, but now its apparent to more and more of the public that the entire country is headed in the same direction economically.

Bush has brought havoc to:

1) National Security

2) Oil Prices

3) The Manufacturing Sector

4) The Mortgage Industry

5) The Stock Market

6) The U.S. Dollar

7) The Environment

8) The Energy Industry

9) Our troops fighting without proper armor

10) Our reputation around the globe

11) His liver








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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:23 PM
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4. Jr Dumbfuck Warcriminal is going out in style.
He is going to leave a mess in mesopotamia, probably a much worse mess than we currently have, a mess right here at home with two recessions to his awful reign, an empty treasury sucked dry by his gang of texas thugs, and debts to be paid for generations. Plus assorted messes around the planet where he and his gang either failed to pay attention to what they should have been doing, or were up to their usual corrupt tricks. And of course the looming global climate catastrophe made worse by eight years of deliberate problem avoidance and denial. Oh did I mention we are running out of oil and have done nothing about that either? Worst president ever.

I am reminded of old Benito Mussolini strung upside down after the partisans caught up with him. I don't know why that image comes to mind, nor what it has to do with anything, but there it is.

And here he is:
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:30 PM
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6. It's amazing I still see some W-04 stickers on
cars and usally it's an old clunker with some kind of religious or NRA sticker.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:37 PM
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7. Wrecking the economy is his Nero Decree?
Wouldn't shock me - Bush hates America so very, very much.
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