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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:12 PM
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Brought to you by Bush & Company - Tobyhanna FEMA Labor Camp
Tobyhanna FEMA Camp

Sui Juris News
Thursday, February 22, 2007

Unverified rumors on the internet are, as I have learnt, most likely to remain unverified not because of any untruthfulness but rather because verifying them is inexplicably difficult if not impossible without edging onto many peoples bad sides.

For sometime I have been aware of governmental plans and programs dealing with the construction of detention facilities on American soil. Most recently is the $385 million contract given to a Halliburton subsidiary, KBR, by the Department of Homeland Security to finance the construction of detention facilities for influxes of illegal immigrants or, as KBR stated, “to support the rapid development of new programs” that, as the New York Times reported, “require additional detention space.” Furthermore there is the Army’s Civilian Inmate Labor Program made public in 2005 which details how American citizens can be made to work on detention camps on military installations under the supervision of the Army.

More notorious, in some circles, though is Oliver North’s 1980’s REX-84 program, a theoretical exercise that entailed FEMA rounding up 400,000 imaginary refugees and placing them in camps. This program coupled with a proposed executive order written by then FEMA head Louis Giuffrida in 1982 which called for suspension of the Constitution and enactment of martial law under the pretext of securing continuity of government raised serious civil rights concerns. In addition, the execution of training operations by the military entailing detention of American citizens in camps has been documented and admitted, Operation Urban Warrior for example. Clearly, there are many open admissions of federal plans that entail the detaining of American citizens and or other people in camps.

Not officially admitted though is the existence of hundreds FEMA detention camps in America; however, photographic evidence of these facilities is readily available through documentaries and online articles. Not verified though is the claim I found on an internet message board that in Tobyhanna Pennsylvania such a FEMA detention camp exists and perhaps is operational. Understandably my intrigue was piqued by the claim and I began an effort to verify the statement which has lead to my belief that a detention camp does exist in Tobyhanna Pennsylvania and efforts have been taken to hide its existence from the public.

As a large Army Depot is located in Tobyhanna I began my investigation by contacting the Depot; I asked via email “Does a FEMA relocation center(a euphemize for detention center as detention occurs under the guise of relocation for national security) or facility exist in or near the Tobyhanna Army Depot?” to which I received a long list of transfers and forwarded messages and the final statement that “TYAD (Tobyhanna Army Depot) does not have an office on the installation - here is a web link with contact information: fema.gov.”

Thus, the main question was answered and the message board statement was verified: yes, there is a FEMA detention center in Tobyhanna. A further implication is that the federal government can covertly operate detention facilities on American soil without appraising the American people. Although this revelation is appalling it is but one example on a long catalogue of pernicious federal augmentation (The John Warner Act, The Military Commissions Act, NSA spying, Patriot Act, for example.)
The American federal government has gone from the vision of the founding fathers to a monolithic and secretive beast that can arrest American citizens, deem them enemy combats, detain them in secret prisons, put them before a military tribunal, and execute them all in secrecy and without due process of law. The absurdity of American’s current predicament is manifest and the encroachment on civil liberties and American ideals by the federal government interminably continues.

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The final conclusion that I have arrived at through my experiences with FEMA and Department of Homeland Security is that verifying rumors through the federal government is nearly impossible as one must contend with labyrinths of rudeness, incompetence, secrecy, dead ends, bureaucracy, politics, and limitless transfers.

http://suijurisnews.blogspot.com/2007/02/tobyhanna-fema-camp.html

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:18 PM
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1. You know the Nazi concentration camps started out as
prison work camps in the days before Hitler. Of course, when you can make people illegal by existing and by whom they are, then it's easy enough to turn them into prisoners.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:39 PM
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2. Yes, the more Americans deny the similarities, the more we fertilize their re-emergence.
Americans better wake up fast.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:45 PM
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3. ...
:kick:
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:11 PM
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4. This is so scarey to me. Can't anything be done about this kind
of stuff? What has happened to America?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:25 PM
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7. I think the first think OC is to spread the information to friends and families.
And let people you know in Pennsylvania know about this.

That's very helpful in getting the word out.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:29 PM
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5. Ollie North, eh?
Why am I not surprised?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:25 PM
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8. I thought that was interesting too.
The more things, 'change' the more they stay the same.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:09 PM
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6. so basically, FEMA has it. No problem. :-D
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:27 PM
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9. And Homeland Security and Michael Chertoff too.
n/t
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