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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:58 PM
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CALL MSNBC NOW: 1 212 664 4444 - Tell them ALL Presidential Candidates be Included in Debates

Ask for the comment line.

Make them ashamed of themselves. Make a HUGE deal of the fact they are deciding who the American citizens can & can not see....

Oh, & well you are at it. Tell them to stop ignoring the top tier candidate John Edwards & tell them you are HIGHLY insulted about their web page depiction of Edwards running as a 'white guy'.

Fuckers.

Again, that is 212 664 4444 - Tell them the American citizenry is calling.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:59 PM
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1. ALL Dem Presidential candidates or just the ones you know about? nt
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:01 PM
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2. There are dozens of Democrats running for president.
The stage might get a little crowded.

Did you mean "all" or "Dennis Kucinich"?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:48 PM
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5. Why NOT all? These are our PUBLIC AIRWAVES. We should require adequate time
for all candidates, for all parties, and especially for all issues--detailed, "pin-'em-down" debate and discussion, for as long as it takes, as a condition of their license. I'm frackin sick--the country is sick--of their narrow political spectrum, and their narrow parameters of debate, skewed way over to the right in favor of fascists and corporatists. It's time to take back the airwaves from these corporate monopolies, and use them to repair our sick and dying democracy.

In this specific case, Dennis Kucinich challenged them in court. He's taking the trouble to do that. If the others joined him, then they could argue their rights as well, and benefit from a favorable ruling. Why do you want to saddle HIM with their lack of interest or inaction?

If they're going to sit by, like lambs, and not challenge their exclusion, then it is not our problem, nor Kucinich's. But when someone stands up and fights back against the marginalization that Kucinich has suffered at the corporate news monopolies' hands--marginalizaton that, of course, makes it nearly impossible to raise funds and gain traction--I think it's great, and I fully support it. It's clearly time for new ideas in this country. We're going down, like the Roman Empire. Can democracy--and a free exchange of ideas--save us? Maybe it can. Thomas Jefferson thought it would.

Cuz otherwise it's just about money. How deadening! You got the bucks from your rich pals, you get included, no matter what mush-brained nonsense you spew. Good ideas don't count. They are worthless. Only with money do you get to convey your ideas; only with money do you have a chance to be seen and heard. And then, what are your ideas? Covering up for "organized money," as FDR called it. Covering the asses of thieves and war criminals. Towing the corporate line; not rocking the boat, cuz you don't want to jeopardize all that money and access and power. And your ideas become sugary pablum. But someone like Dennis Kucinich comes along, who has nothing to lose, and doesn't give a crap about money, and sees through the delusions of BushWorld, and THAT is exciting, as Kucinich has shown time and again, in debates. People are stimulated, and feel connected to what he's saying.

Do we want a citizenry that feels stimulated and connected, or one that is soothed by platitudes? Don't you think we need new ideas? Do you like these corporate-shaped debates, and airbrushed candidates? To me, it's sickening. But Kucinich riles them up, and challenges them on fundamental principles. One of them is likely going to crowned emperor. They should be given an intellectual challenge before that happens. The candidates themselves need to shaken out stupor, as well as the rest of us. That has great value. When and if they are given the scepter, will they even remember that we were once a great democracy?
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:02 PM
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7. MSNBC is cable. nt
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:04 PM
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3. Kick For DK
He's the coolest of them all!
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:37 PM
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4. OK!
Agreed 100%
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:00 PM
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6. There were over 200 candidates for the Democratic nomination in 04.
Here is one list indicating that about 48 people have announced intentions to represent Democrats in the next Presidential election - http://www.vote-smart.org/election_president_search.php?type=party
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:02 PM
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8. I just talked to operator 19 and gave her the message, She will pass it on.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:07 PM
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9. Even these guys?
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:32 PM
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10. I think the idea is to get MSNBC to stick to their original rules--NOT to allow EVERYONE on stage
Kucinich is making a stink because he met their requirements until they changed the rules a few days ago.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:39 PM
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11. My greatest wish regarding this was for ALL of the candidates
to refuse to participate unless all were included. This would have sent a message the networks couldn't ignore - if all are not included, you got no damn show. This is the only way to get through to these people.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:16 PM
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12. How the media steers the public and is determined choose our nominee. Don't be sucked in. n/t
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:08 PM
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13. GE is scared of
Kucinich....he speaks of Peace. GE LOVES WAR! GE LOVES TO KILL!

The grassroots should pick a couple of Corporations and just give them hell....my picks are GE and Monsanto! If the public really knew what these 2 did, they'd never buy a GE dishwasher or Round-Up again.

Damn I'm pissed.
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