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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:41 PM
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Conservatives seem to think that if it's not in the Constitution, then it's not Constitutional
We've heard it all before...

There is no right to abortion in the Constitution
There is no right to privacy according to the Constitution
The Constitution does not say you have a right to vote
I can't find "Separation of Church and State" in the Constitution, so it does not exist.

Well...

Show me where it says that an Air Force is constitutional
Show me where it says the President has the ability to make executive orders
Show me where Executive Privilege is in the Constitution

RW'ers really need to get educated on how their own government works.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:42 PM
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1. I thought all rights not spelled out in the Constitution
devolved to the people.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:44 PM
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all rights not explicitly given to the federal gov't
in the Constitution belong to the states or the people ... 10th Amendment ... but no one seems to pay attention to that one...

sP
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:44 PM
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3. thanks
for clarifying that for me. Yep, people forget that part, don't they?
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:47 PM
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7. soooo much could be changed by simply
enforcing that one little Amendment...

sP
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:01 PM
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8. Actually the ninth amendment is better used here
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. "

They are flat out saying not all our rights are enumerated.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:49 PM
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10. Except that neocons think that all rights, spelled out or not in the Constitution, devolve to ...
the president, so long as Dubya is in that office. They will chane their line if a Democrat is elected prez.

Constituional limits on Congress and the states (excludes taxation limitation eliminated by the 16th Amendment):

"Section 9 - Limits on Congress
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:44 PM
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2. And that's what they mean when repukes use the term "strict constructionist judges"
They want to appoint judges that will take away any rights that are not specifically outlined in the constitution.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:23 PM
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9. The godfather of all s.c.j.'s is Antonin Scalia..
that's why they love him so much.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:45 PM
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4. Conservatives are hopeless ignorant of the Constitution; they should read the Ninth Amendment
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

It doesn't get any more explicit than that. Oh, wait: the Bill of Rights is a list of amendments ratified by liberal activists. Therefore it is not really a part of the Constitution at all. How silly of me to forget. :eyes:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:46 PM
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5. Here's a good write-up on 'executive privilege' ...
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:47 PM
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6. They are ignoring the 9th and 10th amendments
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.




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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:52 PM
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11. Conservatives "believe" whatever serves their greedy, narrowminded interests at any given moment.
They believe NOTHING.

If they actually BELIEVED in anything, they'd be liberals.
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