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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:12 PM
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Are there even any Dem presidents you've liked in, oh, the last 100 years or so?
Sometimes there seems to be almost as much animosity toward past Dem presidents as there is for the current nominees.

Sometimes I feel I've stumbled into a site other than Democratic Underground.

Are there any Dem presidents in the last 100 years that you'd give an unequivocal A+ approval rating? If so, who?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:14 PM
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1. A+? No. But no presidency can ever be perfect. Still, my fave Dem prez is Carter. He put
solar panels on the WH! :D
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:15 PM
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2. JFK! Carter!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:15 PM
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3. Well, I did like FDR. Except I wasn't born then. But, I still liked him.
:-) MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:16 PM
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4. Oh, I liked WJC, too. And, I was around then.
MKJ
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:17 PM
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5. Jimmy Carter was the bomb!
And for a Wiccan to say that about such an openly monotheistic person
says something about him, far more than me.

No, really. He saw all this coming at us with the first embargo based shortage.
Sure, he wasnt perfect but it is not a job whch can be done perfectly.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:18 PM
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6. At the time I didn't fully appreciate him, but I did fully appreciate that we were fucked when
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 08:24 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Reagan won.

MKJ

I still to this day can't believe that Reagan won. No one I knew was happy.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:19 PM
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7. FDR, Truman,Clinton,JFK,Carter
so there :hi:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:20 PM
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8. Thanks.
Your answer made me smile. :-)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:21 PM
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19. Yes!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:26 PM
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9. FDR! FDR! FDR! FDR!!!1!!
But nothings really unequivocal. There was the internment of Japanese Americans.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:58 PM
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10. FDR...
a man who could have taken the road of populist demagoguery, tapped into the right-wing demagoguery and general fear of the populace, and attained dictatorial power.

But he didn't, and it was our national salvation...

:thumbsup:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:01 PM
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11. FDR.
Except for the internment of Japanese Americans, I would vote him.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:04 PM
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12. FDR, JFK, LBJ, WJC.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:07 PM
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13. Jimmy Carter was great.
He gets a bad rap because the mess Nixon left with Watergate AND Vietnam would have been too much for anyone to overcome. Frankly, I'm worried about the next President, because the mess Chimpy will leaving is 10,000 times worse. If these were ordinary circumstances, I'd say let Hillary have it for those reasons alone, since she would be doomed to failure.

But the next President needs to solve the Constitutional crisis in this country, even if the economic crisis is too much. So we have to elect someone who can at least do that. And a DLC'er isn't even interested in that job.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:08 PM
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14. All Of Them, Sir, With The Exception Of Wilson
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:14 PM
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16. Oh but, Magistrate, Sir....
"he kept us out of war..."

:D :hi:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:40 PM
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20. That Wretch, Sir, Is A Topic That Can Keep Me Up All Night....
And sufficient time for it is not really at my disposal. Suffice it to say he does not get anything like the credit he deserves for the twentieth century....
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:48 PM
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21. Have you read either of these two books. Sir...?
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 09:48 PM by adsosletter
"The War for Righteousness: Progressive Christianity, the Great War, and the Rise of the Messianic Nation." by Gamble?

or

Paris: 1919 by MacMillan?

Just curious...

:)
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:53 PM
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23. No, Sir, Neither, Though Both Do sound Interesting
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:55 PM
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24. If you find the time, give them a read...
they will confirm your level of distaste, Sir.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:26 PM
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29. Wilson wasn't such a bad president
but her husband definitely had his issues.

http://iaia.essortment.com/edithwilson_rfwl.htm
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:09 PM
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15. A+? Nope.
A couple of C+'s for those that didn't throw too many people under the bus.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:17 PM
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17. ALL of them! n/t
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:21 PM
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18. FDR, for sure.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:51 PM
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22. All of them!
silly question :eyes:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:58 PM
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25. FDR, JFK and Jimmy Carter nt
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:18 PM
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26. I wasn't around for anyone other then Clinton, but...
I wasn't around for anyone other then president Bill Clinton (I was born when Reagan was in office), and I think he had his accomplishments and his flaws and mistakes.

Honestly, lets be realistic here though, there is no perfect president, they all had their flaws. Take Washington for example, he may have done a lot of great things for our nation, but he lived the life of a hypocrite when it came to slavery.

FDR did a lot of great things, but even he has some flaws, and really while FDR's new deal stuff would have helped prevent the great depression (by putting in safe guards that didn't exist back then) his new deal programs weren't what got us out of the depression, it was World War 2.

Personally I think the best president in the last 100 years (well my favorite one anyway) is Harry Truman. As much as I'd hate to admit it Truman was kind of George W. Bush, he wasn't afraid to make the right decisions (and he did make the right decisions unlike Bush), even if he knew they were going to be widely unpopular (such as firing General MacArthur who was ready to turn the Korean war into WW3 by dropping atomic bombs on China). Truman pushed through some civil rights legislation to as he got disgusted at the treatment some black WW2 veterans were getting.

Truman's biggest flaw was probably his unpopularity from making the tough decisions, as it helped cost his party control of congress. Truman had some of the lowest approval ratings ever out of any president, I think Bush's approval rating still haven't tied/passed Truman's lowest approval rating ever. Still, Truman showed just how cunning a politician he really was in the 1948 presidential election, from the start he looked hopelessly doomed from his unpopularity, worst yet the democrats had 3 different candidates running for president. A conservative democrat, a liberal democrat, and Truman, plus the republican Dewey. The media was constantly reporting the election as Truman's inevitable defeat. But not only did Truman manage to turn things around for himself, he managed to get the republican controlled congress so hated that the public voted them out and gave democrats control of it again.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:19 PM
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27. I loved Bill Clinton
I love most of our Democratic Party.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:21 PM
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28. I liked all of them except Johnson.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:27 PM
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30. Sure.
I was too young a hundred years ago. But if for sake of discussion we ct that in half, I liked them all. Clinton, Carter and Johnson weren't perfect, of course, and I'm not offended when people mention their weak points. I'd give JFK the A+.
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