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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:23 AM
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Clinton's been ahead in every poll in Nevada for some time now
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nv/nevada_democratic_caucus-236.html

The spread ranges from a low of 8 to a high of 37, over Obama, her closest contender and then trailing further behind is Edwards.

She's got the force of most of the entrenched Democrats in Nevada behind her, it appears.

She's also got a lot of seasoned political workers from out of state working in her campaign here, based on the events I've gone to since last March.

There are 25 delegates at stake in Nevada.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:24 AM
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1. It looks like things have changed.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:27 AM
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2. In what regard?
Do you have new info?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:30 AM
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3. Obama in the lead. Edwards a close third
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:34 AM
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5. Thanks for the link
My search didn't catch that one.

From the poll:

Barack Obama: 32 percent
Hillary Clinton: 30 percent
John Edwards: 27 percent
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:35 AM
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6. It's brand new
So it's no surprise.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:56 AM
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12. Good news. Hope that's accurate. (hah! who knows...) nt
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TheSource Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:39 AM
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9. I don't trust in polls...
Does anybody anymore?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:34 AM
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4. You see the dates on those polls, right? It is a lot closer now (thank God). nt
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:38 AM
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7. Yes, those were the only ones I could find in a hurry.
A more recent poll is posted above on post #4, showing Obama in the lead by a margin of 2. I still think that Hillary has the machine here. The winner will be determined by how many caucus goers show up and stay. I'm hearing a lot of rumbling from people as to the caucus venue -- not wanting to go for various reasons. On our news last night, they interviewed a bunch of people, and most were totally clueless about what a caucus even is.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:39 AM
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8. The last poll on that site was over a month ago nt
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Kermit77 Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:43 AM
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10. It's closer now. That is why Hillary is using the race card - desperation
I think Hillary's internals show that the race was tightening in NV. That is the reason for the Culinary lawsuit and all this talk about race. It reeks of desperation.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:53 AM
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11. Culinary lawsuit?
How did I miss that?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:09 PM
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13. Here are some links discussing it in detail
Sour Grapes for Clinton? Plaintiffs in NV Teachers' Union lawsuit approved State Party's caucus plan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2671111

Hillary's Lawyer Supporter Kummer Sues 4 Union To DISENFRANCHISE HISPANIC, UNION VOTE IN LAS VEGAS!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2669841

Las Vegas/Hispanic Vote: "Campaigning here, Clinton goes over Culinary’s head"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2670484

Nevada Politics: Obama v. Clinton? Culinary Workers v. Teachers?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2669291
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:17 PM
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14. Yes, see post #7 and #4 for more recent info. n/t
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:19 PM
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15. "Pollsters have a plan for Nevada: Skip it"
Posted previously here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2670540

Pollsters have a plan for Nevada: Skip it
Most say we’re too green at caucusing, too transient
By Brian Eckhouse, Michael Mishak

Fri, Jan 11, 2008 (2 a.m.)

National public opinion pollsters, fresh off a glaring failure to pick the winner in New Hampshire’s presidential primary, are now violently queasy about trying to predict a winner in Nevada. In fact, for a variety of reasons, major news organizations are taking a pass on polling before Nevada’s Jan. 19 caucus.

The concerns stem from the New Hampshire mistake and from knowledge that Nevada has a large transient population not familiar with the workings of a big-time caucus.

~snip~

The disparity in New Hampshire added to the anxiety of pollsters already uneasy about Nevada. Even NBC, whose cable news network, MSNBC, will broadcast Tuesday’s Democratic debate in Las Vegas, has no plans to poll Nevada, said Peter Hart, the Washington, D.C.-based pollster whose firm typically conducts the NBC-Wall Street Journal poll.

Pollsters who do dare to try to gauge not only the preferences of Nevadans but also the likelihood they will turn out for a first-time prime-time caucus face a set of challenges.

~snip~

Larry Harris, a principal with Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, one of two national firms that conduct polling for Nevada media on occasion, acknowledged the difficulty. “It requires a lot more energy than somebody pulling a lever in a secret ballot,” he said.

Nevada’s highly transient and increasingly diverse population is another complication for pollsters. ...“It’s very difficult to know who to sample, in terms of likely voters,” said Glen Bolger, a respected Republican pollster who has conducted surveys in Nevada.

The Pew Research Center, a respected public policy foundation, regards the circumstances here as so foreboding that it opted to leave Nevada out of its pre-election poll in December. “It’s an ascending chain of difficulty: general elections, primaries and caucuses,” said Scott Keeter, Pew’s director of survey research. “Caucuses burn up a lot of resources (for pollsters), and we thought our resources could be put to better use elsewhere.”

Nevada’s last poll was taken a month ago by Mason-Dixon, which says it will survey voters again before the caucus. (In the most recent poll, Clinton led in the single digits.) Infrequent polling is a problem, said Susan Pinkus, director of the Los Angeles Times Poll.

~snip~

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/11/pollsters-have-plan-nevada-skip-it/
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