'Imaginary hip black friend?'

[americanstranger]

How do y'all think this is going to play?

An anonymous Clinton adviser made an interesting comment to The Guardian, explaining the difference between Hillary supporters and Obama supporters.

"If you have a social need, you're with Hillary," the aide said. "If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool."

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/clinton_aide_obama_is_for_people_who_want_imaginary_hip_black_friend.php

Guardian link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2238148,00.html

---

- as

[babylonsister]

1. Very poorly, but maybe they're trying to make their slams so commonplace

we'll gloss over them. :shrug:

[MercutioATC]

2. Doesn't everybody want an imaginary hip black friend??

:eyes:

Just goes to show how out of touch this adviser is...

[americanstranger]

3. Didn't they call him a 'fairy tale' last week?

Now he's 'imaginary.'

Are the clintons trying to will Obama out of existence or something? :)

- as

[Leopolds Ghost]

10. What is it? Sss. We doesn't want to see nassty Obama, no precious. We doesn't want it to BE!

[theredpen]

5. The ghost of Sammy Davis junior is my personal savior n/t

[Clovis Sangrail]

6. I want one!!!

I find that my imaginary friends are *way easier to deal with than my real friends.

[davidwparker]

4. How would this play? You support Obama over Hillary because you're

sick of the Clintons. Period. If something happens to JE, that will be my reason in nutshell.

[theredpen]

7. Mouth, meet foot. Foot, mouth.

Another badly-worded quote for the news cycle.

There's a grain of truth behind this, I think. I was noticing in CNN's exit polling in NH, that people who felt that their "situation was improving" went for Obama, and people who felt their "situation was getting worse" went for Clinton.

That said to me that people who see some light at the end of the tunnel want to move forward with Obama, and people who see an oncoming train would rather return to the Clinton era of peace and prosperity.

This is yet another simplistic interpretation of a complex event, but that's how it struck me.

[xultar]

8. I hate to say it. But, in my opinion it is true.

[americanstranger]

9. You really think Obama voters....

...have no social needs? ;)

- as

[Two Americas]

13. yes, relatively speaking

The promotion of all of the candidates tends to be dominated by those who have little at risk personally and are doing fairly well, and this is reflected in the way the candidates are promoted and in the quality of the discussions about the candidates.

For those who are not in the upper 10-20% of society - which is where those fr0m whom we hear the moist come from - there is an entirely different set of worries and they do not have the time or energy to obsess and nit-pick over the things that the more upscale activists talk about, let alone any interest in battling to the death over those things.

Yes, I think that the people in the bottom 50-70% of the population are not served by the candidacies, and I think for that reason over half of the people do not see how politics relates to their lives very well. That will not change until we demand that it changes.

The money — even the online grass roots donations — comes from the upper 10% of the population, and that is whose needs and interests are catered to. A minimal amount of attention on those who are ignored and left out of our considerations would sweep the party into power for a generation, and would also be the best way to advance all of the progressive causes. The only possible reason to not do that is for fear of offending the well off.

[Hutzpa]

17. Its seems to me, you're

very comfortable in divisions, obviously you must be in the 10-20% well off, you forgotten your past and could care less.

Always remember where you came from.

[Two Americas]

19. let's remember where we are going

No matter what economic bracket any of us are in, I would hope that the least among us would always come first in our thoughts and plans. For me that is what it means to be a Democrat.

We are only as strong as the weakest among us, only as prosperous as the least prosperous among us, only as healthy as the least healthy among us. We all go together, or we don't go anywhere.

[Leopolds Ghost]

11. Why do white working class voters with economic problems support Clinton by such a margin?

Do they think Clinton is pro-union? Pro-working class in a conservative, anti-union, Tory sense?

Or do they just "not relate to black people, especially black people that do better than me?"

I have a sneaking suspicion it's the latter. Especially for older white women who would get upset
and worried if their college age daughters said "but mom, he's cute!"

[Marrah_G]

12. I just get irrited when people take "someone said someone said" as the gospel truth

[Beausoleil]

14. I heard Stephen Colbert is looking for a new black friend

since he demoted Alan.

Hey, you think maybe....


edit: spelling

[xultar]

16. Hummm I'd hit it. I'll be his friend.

[AspenRose]

22. Hey, get in line....

Pick a number and WAIT YOUR TURN.


;-)

[McCamy Taylor]

15. Young people do not vote according to their economic needs, that is true.

We do a very poor job of educating American young people about politics, so when they get involved it is often about one issue (the draft) or it is a beauty contest along the lines of American Idol.

The problem with the latter is that if some savvy public relation guy for a Republican candidate is able to spin some dirt that they uncover about Obama in the general election that turns off America's youth---something that contradicts the image of their candidate as youthful, idealistic, truthful, not an insider---those kids will abandon ship like the first class passengers on the Titanic. They have no economic incentive to stick with him, the way that veteran Democrats have an incentive to stick with their candidates.

It wouldn't take much either. For celebrities whose attraction rests on their innocence and virtue--Marriane Faithful, Fatty Arbuckle, Pee Wee Herman---scandal can precipitate a massive, rapid fall. In contrast, if you a bad boy star, bad publicity is a boon.

Obama is a "good boy" star, so he had better watch out. His fan base is fickle.

[Hutzpa]

18. This is becoming a pattern

this is the third time that someone from the Clinton campaign posting has directed people to the English Newspaper, 1st it was the Daily Telegraph, The Independent, and now the Guardian?

The dirty politics has already started and they are using the British press to attack him,

Those paper are predominantly conservative papers, The Clinton need to stop this kind attack or it
will have a severe effect on their campaign.

This will alienate voters that are still undecided, she is making the same mistake
shes been making in the Senate.

THEY ARE PLAYING THE DIVISION CARD PROFUSELY AND IT WILL ONLY COME BACK AND
BITE THEM IN THE ASS!

If discrimination is the only thing they have left....well...hey! who I'm I to tell these wonderful people how to run their campaign.

Its the case of black against black, white against white and so on it goes.

[rucky]

20. ...

www.blackpeopleloveus.com

[Chovexani]

21. I don't know if I would have put it quite that way

But let's just say there are an awful lot of Sallies and Johnnies* in Obamanation. I've tangled with them right here on DU.


*See the site in my sig if you don't understand this reference.