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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:53 PM
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Will the war against women ever end?
The death of the young pregnant Marine prompts this question, as does the violence against women and children in the Congo where rape is the main weapon.

Will women ever feel completely safe?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:55 PM
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flasoapbox Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:56 PM
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2. Indeed
I think us men have made some progress in the last century, but
we still have a long way to go.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:31 PM
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8. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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flasoapbox Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:58 PM
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12. Thanks!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:56 PM
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3. It will be better when we move from a patriarchial society
to one where the genders are more equal, I think. That means a change in thought processes, a change in how we view the roles of men and women.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:57 PM
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4. My dear helderheid...
I doubt it...

Certainly not in our lifetimes...

There's just too much history to overcome...

And men have the strength, and the testosterone, to keep on being that way...

I'm sorry...

We must do whatever we can to combat it...

And teach our sons to respect women...

We must never give up!

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:27 PM
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15. "Testosterone-poisoning". "too much testosterone in this room". "pissing contest"
"Trying to show how big your dick is".

Thanks for being so progressive. I agree that sexism will never disappear as long as people think one side should be demonized as a whole in that manner for their biology.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:32 PM
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17. that didn't take long, did it
here's a clue: THIS THREAD ISN'T ABOUT YOU
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 PM
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18. Unless of course you think sexism can only be fixed by addressing it in ALL its forms.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:48 PM
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19. UH
never fucking mind
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:35 AM
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20. yeah, and i'm sick of anti-white racism too. uh.. not. dude, when you get more enraged about
anti-male sexism, real or imagined, than you do about the very real, world-wide, age-old contempt for women that exists on this planet, you just can't be taken very seriously.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:01 PM
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5. "completely safe?" Not even close and it's a god damn disgrace
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:02 PM
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6. I hope. I do hope
But it's not looking good for anytime soon
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:10 PM
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7. Civilisation is a long, slow process. We have come such a long way.
We are witnessing the process now.
How many women actually believe a female can climb Everest.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:38 PM
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9. No.
As long as there are angry men women will not be totally safe.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:41 PM
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10. no, as long as religion tells them they are better than women in the eyes of God
and as long as they are sexually jealous of the next guy on the block.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:43 PM
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11. Not as long as "she had it coming" is still believed.
Exemplified by forcing women to carry to term because they were naughty.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:00 PM
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13. It makes me sick
one of my great disappointments is in the lack of progress in women's rights. The murder of the pregnant Marine is a sad example of how little progress we've made.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:04 PM
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14. Male, Female, It Doesn't Matter to Me
If someone wants to hurt you badly enough, they will. At least, they'll try. It's that simple.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:29 PM
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16. No.
The world is not a safe place. For any being. There are predators and prey. That's it.

You won't see the Garden of Eden again.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:09 AM
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21. No -- not until patriarchy ends --- and right now the patriarchy is on over heat --- !!!
You can see the rise of violence against women with the new rise of the right ---

With the Fundies, etal ---

And this administration is doing NOTHING to help women anywhere in the world ---
they've done everything they can to harm them!!

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:11 AM
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22. And certainly not with corporate-media . . . and btw. . . .
People should check the Business Round Table which is like 300 corps which work together
to defeat civil rights, benefits -- basically economic democarcy in America ---
and to keep females exploitable ---

Hallmark Cards is a member ---

I don't have the list any longer but people should look it up and not give them your business!!!


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undercutter2006 Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:48 AM
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23. don't men hurt other men even more than they hurt women?
on average, in wars and in crime
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:53 AM
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24. And there are some women who beat up men, too.
Men who are abused can't find a shelter to go to; they are assumed to be sissies that are unable to defend themselves. That said, the majority of the domestic violence is against women.

And yes, violence of all kinds is wrong.
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