Kerry endorses Obama because of the 2004 STOLEN election!

[peabody71]

Free speech is a bitch, ain't it.

[jlake]

1. Can you elaborate on that?

[Kucinich4America]

8. If that's the case, I guess you could "elaborate" with just two words.

Judas Carville.

And everybody knows who he works for.

[peabody71]

11. Absolutely don't agree.

It was not of a Clinton making.
Of course she is the corporate money whore.
But I don't believe it was her.

Much deeper it goes into the bowels of power.

[jlake]

12. Okay, got it... first of all, that story is probably an attempt to divide the Democratic Party

and not based in reality.... and even if it were true, it did NOT stop Kerry from standing by his word to count every vote and pursue any fraud.

[Kucinich4America]

22. Judas Carville is consistently trying to divide the Democratic Party

His public hate rants against Howard Dean are unforgiveable, and so was what he did to Kerry in Ohio. And I'm not even a Kerry fan, but at that moment he should have been the legitimately elected President of the United States. But he wasn't, thanks to Carville and his beast of a wife.

[anamandujano]

32. Could you provide a link or two

for reading?

I can't stand Carville or Begala anymore and would like to know what his take on Ohio was. Also, what did he say about Dean?

[niyad]

2. huh????

[peabody71]

3. What rational could it be to endorse now?

He litterally ripped Edwards a new asshole.
In the state the poor guy was born?

Kerry is pissed off about the last election.
Ohio was a fraud.

NH was a fraud.

[grmamo]

5. If Kerry mad he has hisself to blame - Edwards wanted to fight - Oh maybe that is why he is mad. n/t

[LittleClarkie]

29. That's a big if

Do we have a link?

[book_worm]

6. why would he take that out on Edwards? the rationale makes no sense.

[peabody71]

13. Exactly. Edwards at that point wasn't as important to Kerry.

Endorsing Obama to help a
landslide that cannot be stopped may be more of the point.

[LittleClarkie]

31. And the problem with a Demcratic landslide would be...?

?

[LittleClarkie]

14. Obama's campaign would have picked the time and place

It is Obama's campaign after all. There is a reference in the Kerry forum that confirmed this.

Nevertheless, I've read the speech he gave, and his reasons for endorsing Obama make sense according to what I know about him. The endorsement has been months in the making, starting with a meeting in March, says the New York Times.

It's quite a stretch to think Kerry did all this to screw Edwards.

[peabody71]

23. Has nothing to do with Edwards.

Please.

[LittleClarkie]

28. Then why did you bring him up, ripping him a new asshole and such

You're making about Edwards.

[LittleClarkie]

33. But it has nothing to do with Edwards?

The way you're reading is that he's getting back at Edwards with this endorsement in Edward's state. And I still say to you that Kerry would not have picked the time or place.

[Neshanic]

4. He's quite a piece of work if this is true.

[mnhtnbb]

7. Too little too late, Kerry. Look in the mirror if you want someone to blame.

[LittleClarkie]

16. What are you talking about. This isn't something Kerry said

It's something that came out of the head of the OP. It's his opinion. So why go after Kerry as if it were true and not just someone's opinon?

[mnhtnbb]

20. If Kerry had run a better campaign--challenged Ohio--taken office

Kerry would be running a re-election campaign. There have been quite a few threads here that indicate
Kerry blames Edwards for contributing to the loss. Bull. Where does the buck stop, Kerry? Look in the mirror.

[LittleClarkie]

27. How do you know he blames Edwards? Do you have a legit source for that info?

Beyond DU I mean?

There might be some speculation to that end, but if Kerry hasn't come out and said it, then why lambast him for it?

Meanwhile, the rest of your post is old news. People have been over and over this for 4 years. Surely we've been over it enough. What is left to discuss?

[mnhtnbb]

34. Try this article, for a start

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/us/politics/21edwards.html?_r=1&ref=washington&oref=slogin

Posted by none other than Will Pitt on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2650372&mesg_id=2650670

[LittleClarkie]

36. Thank you, but mostly what I got from that article is that Kerry's supporters blamed Edwards

and this bit here

"Mr. Edwards told Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, that he had wanted to “go after Bush.” “Terry, they wouldn’t let me,” he said, according to Mr. McAuliffe’s book, “What a Party!”

Is a blatant lie if the rest of the article is to be believed, that Edwards wouldn't go negative then complained later that he wasn't allowed to go negative.

Who to believe. But that article didn't paint a pretty picture of Edwards.

And with that, I take another step away from Edwards and towards Obama.

[mnhtnbb]

38. Consider the source. Who does the NY Times push?

[LittleClarkie]

40. I don't read them enough to know. Who DO they push?

Thanks.

[mnhtnbb]

41. Hillary/Obama/Obama/Hillary, depending upon the day of the week.

[MH1]

30. What series of legal mechanisms could have overturned Ohio results and made Kerry president in 2004?

I'm really interested to know...

[peabody71]

9. Can not let him win.

The powers that BE and the owners of the voting machines
would never allow a populist uprising,
esp. lead by a black man that sounds like Martin Luther.

That is what was happening.
They crushed it.

Follows long standing
history in America.

The more things change the more they stay.

[LittleClarkie]

18. The dog howls at sunrise

What the hell code are you speaking?

[Der Blaue Engel]

10. I've translated your post into Dutch via Babelfish

Because it makes just about as much sense that way:

"Kerry onderschrijft Obama wegens de 2004 GESTOLEN verkiezing! De vrije toespraak is een wijfje ain't het."

And then back to English, it's even more fun:

"Kerry subscribe to Obama because of 2004 the STOLEN election! The free speech is a female ain't it."

[peabody71]

17. That is hillarious.

Thanks for the bump.

[Der Blaue Engel]

21. Here's another bump

In hopes you'll provide your own translation, cuz I still have no idea what your post means. :shrug:

[peabody71]

24. It's about UNACCOUNTABLE ELECTIONS.

That's it. That's all.
You should all be ashamed of your selves.

I repeat there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY in our Elections.

Again?

No ACCOUNTABILITY.

HELLO! HELLO!
Anyone in there?

[anamandujano]

26. Thick as thieves

"I am absolutely convinced that the President of the United States, George Bush, won this election. I also believe he got more votes in Ohio."--you know who

It was my first thought on hearing of the Kerry endorsement. Obama's statement helped Kerry in sweeping it all under the rug (in his own mind).

[Der Blaue Engel]

35. Excuse me?

Maybe you should be ashamed of yourself for being utterly incoherent and insulting people who ask for clarification. I give up. Rant away.

[LittleClarkie]

37. I thought it was just me who didn't understand.

It is incoherent, isn't it.

[kelligesq]

15. You'll excuse me if I say

BULL !!!!!!!

He wouldnt fight to save the election, he was told by every one in the country the machines were fixed....would not even acknowledge his own volunteers and campaign workers complaints about it or the 10,000 lawyers who were working for free.....would not challenge the vote.

He's just one big LURCH...pimple on the ass of progress

[peabody71]

19. Oh yes and a Skull and Crossbone too.

He was a good soldier, but bitter all the same.

[LittleClarkie]

25. S and B is B and S

Can't take you seriously now.

[Renew Deal]

39. Free speech can be confusing.

What are you talking about?