U.S. corporate elite fear candidate Edwards - The Guardian (not US media, of course!)

[redqueen]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7217369

WASHINGTON, Jan 11 (Reuters) - Ask corporate lobbyists which presidential contender is most feared by their clients and the answer is almost always the same -- Democrat John Edwards.

The former North Carolina senator's chosen profession alone raises the hackles of business people. Before entering politics, he made a fortune as a trial lawyer.

In litigious America, trial lawyers bring lawsuits against companies on behalf of aggrieved individuals and sometimes win multimillion-dollar settlements. Edwards won several.

But beyond his profession, Edwards' tone and language on the campaign trail have increased business antipathy toward him. His stump speeches are peppered with attacks on "corporate greed" and warnings of "the destruction of the middle class."


more at link.

[groovedaddy]

1. Exactly the reason I like the guy! n/t

[Supersedeas]

18. and the GOP Media Establishment (including Tweety and Russert) can shove it

[Fresh_Start]

2. I think that the parties have been way too bipartisan

in passing corporate friendly legislation.

They seem to only be partisan when it comes to chosing between whats good for human citizens v whats good for corporate citizens.
I like Edwards message of people over corporations.

[emanymton]

3. In For A Penny, In For A Pound. - I'm In.

.
"The one thing that's clear from tonight's caucus is that the status quo lost and change won," Edwards said. "The results show that the American people are ready for a president who will stand up to corporate greed and fight for hard-working families, someone who will fix the broken system in Washington and achieve real change in this country.

"Tonight showed that if you're willing to have a little backbone, a little courage, and stand up to corporate greed, we will be unstoppable – no matter how much money is spent," Edwards continued. "The Clinton campaign thought big money would make them inevitable – but despite being dramatically outspent by not one, but two celebrity candidates, we finished a strong second. And now we move on to New Hampshire and the other early states, where the voters will choose who is best suited to bring about the change this country so desperately needs."
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[redqueen]

4. You just decided to support Edwards in the primaries?

:party:

:yourock:

[emanymton]

7. I'm In Because Edwards Is The Right Candidate At The Right Time.

[AntiFascist]

30. Big corporate money is also behind election fraud...

Edwards should be a little more wary.

[redqueen]

31. How do you mean?

By 'be a little more wary'... what do you mean there?

[AntiFascist]

38. Edwards' sounded a little overconfident that the 'status quo lost'...

if the trend seen in NH and national polls continues, the status quo may have more than a fighting chance, and election fraud could push them over the top.

[redqueen]

39. Ah yes...

may have been a bit premature... I assume he was thinking of the IA results.

[midnight]

89. To quote a phrase that I heard John Edwards use here in Wi.

But I will put it into context about election fraud- I can't believe we are even talking about this here in America. That is, that election fraud is considered a given.

[AntiFascist]

112. Great, at least he is acknowledging it them n/t

[redqueen]

5. Wow... ignored...

wish I could say I was surprised.

[underpants]

6. If they run an honest business they have nothing to worry about

this is what poker players call a "tell"

[Ninga]

8. Kicky !

[redqueen]

12. Thank you.

:)

[Orwellian_Ghost]

9. K&R n/t

[redqueen]

11. Thanks!

[_testify_]

10. This should tell everyone exactly what they need to know about John Edwards.

They're afraid of him, and they're our enemy. Vote for John!

[redqueen]

14. That's sure how I see it.

Thanks! :hi:

[ChiciB1]

93. Still... We Need A MOVEMENT Here In America! WHAT MSM Says

TELLS it all! It's a POPULARITY CONTEST, not an election! America is so easily DUPED!!

[madokie]

13. All the more reason to support him

[redqueen]

19. Yup... he's got them actually scared.

They were never scared of Kucinich - that says a lot to me.

They (unlike FAR too many on DU) really think he could win, and make good on his promises. And he's not talking about working together, he's talking about fighting these jerks for control of our government!

:bounce:

[madokie]

21. Oh yeah the difference between Edwards and the others is vast

Hes proud of the fact he was able to achieve the american dream and would like to see many more of us do the same. Its simple for me I trust John Edwards to fight for us

[redqueen]

23. "I trust John Edwards to fight for us"

Same here!

And really that's what it boils down to. We ALL know our candidates are MILES better than theirs... it's just a matter of which one we trust more to get the job done.

:hi:

[Beartracks]

63. "I trust John Edwards to fight for us" Kick! nt

[defendandprotect]

58. I disagree --- all populist messages are a threat to them . . . but they kinda knew

that Kucinich wasn't going to be a long-term threat to them ---
they shut him out in the debates anyway by not asking him questions --- right?

And now NBC has cut him out --- !!!

[The Stranger]

15. We cannot make it without him.

[bdamomma]

16. kick butt John, we support you.

[frogmarch]

17. This is just one of many reasons I love JE. K&R

[defendandprotect]

60. I imagine they're working day and night on ways to destroy Edwards campaign ---

[ChiciB1]

94. AND, Many Of The D.C. Democrats Are At With Hammer & Nail Too!!!

I myself am one ANGRY, ANGRY person! I'm sick of what has happened to this country, I thought at least DEMOCRATS would be able to see through all the "junk" MSM throws at us, but from what I see... it's just not so!

Who wins?? THEY DO! Who loses... WE DO!!

Go, Johnny, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[smiley_glad_hands]

20. K & R eom

[XOKCowboy]

22. Of course "corporate greed" & "destruction of the middle class" are just Liberal Myths

Or so the MSM will tell you. Our two leading candidates don't come close to addressing these "myths". John Edwards is the candidate for real change and they're scared to death his message will get out.

[redqueen]

28. "they're scared to death his message will get out"

That's exactly why I think the vast majority of the press he gets is just negative stuff.

[rtassi]

50. Yes they are,

So if he is elected, we need to have his back, not just now, but over the next eight years, otherwise he will be reduced to being nothing more than a business agent!

[anitar1]

64. They are really afraid of US. Waking the sleeping

beasts out here among the great unwashed is how they see us.We are not all medicated yet. Must be very disquieting to them to see the support he has. And those in the middle of the party are calling for him to step down already, after 2 small states hold primaries.

[HamdenRice]

24. Edwards is a great candidate, but this cuts both ways

Edwards would make a great president. But it's clear that the media oligarchy have united against him to ignore his message. Now the chamber of commerce promises to punish the party and the people if he is elected.

Maybe the best outcome would be to have litigator Edwards as a trust busting Attorney General.

[redqueen]

25. "the chamber of commerce promises to punish the party and the people if he is elected."

And you think the best plan of action is to cooperate so they don't make good on their threat?

There's very little chance he'd become AG. The corporatists would sink his confirmation, if it even got that far. Way too much "cooperation" is going on already.

[HamdenRice]

26. I don't want them to cooperate

It's just that given the opposition and given the polls, I'm trying to imagine a way to empower Edwards to carry out his platform.

One way might be as a trust busting AG.

[redqueen]

27. AG would be nice...

but like I said, there's so much "cooperation" that I doubt it would ever happen.

[defendandprotect]

61. If elected, we would have to offer a lot of support --- like coming out into the streets --- !!!

[ChiciB1]

95. Show Me The Street, Give Me The Date AND Tell Me The Time...

I'll bring bells and whistles! I'm ready to bust it wide open!!

[countmyvote4real]

72. It would take a candidate like Edwards to promote someone like himself to AG.

Obama and Clinton are not like that. Frankly I foresee that either would appoint someone more in line with a lackey like Alberto Gonzalez because they've seen that the AG appointment is more important to covering their ass vs. our constitution.

[AntiFascist]

85. I would take this threat seriously....

DLCers will fall right in line with the COC's threat and ask Edwards to leave for the good of the party. This is a defining point in time for the American people. Do we let the Oil/military-industrial/insurance/pharmaceutical/etc business interests run our lives and destroy our world, or do we take a stand and say enough is enough. Why are economists even supporting Edwards? Its because the powerful elite are even destroying capitalism, as we know it, along with everything else!

[kelligesq]

105. I wish Edwards would go Independent, then they couldnt stop him - more ppl

are registered as independents than they are as dem or repug.

[AntiFascist]

111. Interesting suggestion...

but I'd also like to see the Democratic party return to democratic principles, away from those of the DLC.

[redqueen]

29. KICK!

:kick:

[redqueen]

32. C'mon, don't just rec... KICK IT!

:patriot:

[KillCapitalism]

33. This is a big reason why I'm for Edwards.

He's fighting the big corporations who are oppressing us.

[Nutmegger]

34. R&K!!! [n\t]

[redqueen]

35. Thank you!

:hi:

[liberalla]

36. Corporate lobbyists fear Edwards???

Or, is it just that he won't hire them? :sarcasm:

This is a powerful recommendation FOR Edwards IMO !
Thanks, John!

Onwards, Upwards, Edwards. 2008

[redqueen]

37. You bet it is!

:hi:

[Joe Chi Minh]

40. It's infuriating seeing people vote for Hillary and Obama. When playing the horses,

they're quick enough to latch onto "horses for courses", but ask them to think in terms of "first principles" in relation to politics, and, apparently, you come up against a brick wall - even allowing for the election charades.

Of course, I know fifth columnists abound on DU, and the media distorts everything, so maybe it is all "smoke and mirrors", but I'm beginning to suspect that maybe Obama really is at least as popular in as John, and his followers just don't "get it."

I'm now inclined to think that John Kerry endorsed Obama, because he fears for Edward's life, if he were to win.

[defendandprotect]

62. Kerry endorsed Obama because he fears for Edwards' life?????

You mean, Kerry made an altruistic move in endorsing Obama --- !!! ???

[Inspired]

91. I've heard people close to Edwards say they are worried about his safety.

But I doubt if John Kerry shares these concerns.

[defendandprotect]

115. That's the truth . . . however, the angle that John Kerry is snubbing Edwards

and endorsing Obama to protect Edwards seems rather weird --- and not believable.

[Yael]

41. Kicking and recommending!

[OzarkDem]

42. Hell yes, their plan was win/win Obama vs Clinton

Take two spineless, marginally electable Dems already trained in the Senate to give the GOP and corporations everything they want.

Pit them against each other, making sure you let them know who owns their news coverage and is footing all the campaign bills.

Let them battle it out in the primaries and see which one will cut the sweetest deal to back the Corporate Agenda.

Whoever comes to their corporate masters and offers the best deal is the one who gets the most positive news coverage to win the primaries.

The GE becomes a cakewalk as long as they hew to the script. The candidate is free to coast to victory then ignore every promise they made during their campaign because the corporate news media will cover for them.

Damn, this whole thing was supposed to be sewn up before the GE, but Edwards is the "fly in the ointment". He's out there offering some real competition and - EGADS! - actually revealing facts and talking about real issues!!!!!

Out, damn spot! They must get rid of Edwards!

[Laelth]

47. Solid analysis, OzarkDem. k&r

:dem:

-Laelth

[defendandprotect]

65. Right . . . Obama and Hillary are pretty much "blue dogs" --- !!! Go EDWARDS--!!!

[earth mom]

43. Bwahaha! I love it!

The big boys are shaking in their boots! :rofl:

[smokey nj]

44. K&R!!!

[balantz]

45. Edwards knows exactly what to do when he gets into office.

These elitist clowns are terrified of him. Why can't more people put two and two together and see how obvious it is? They are sweating and trying to keep Edwards out of the game.

[crud76]

46. 'I think Hillary is approachable.

She knows where a lot of her funding has come from, to be blunt," said Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Stanford Group Co., a market and policy analysis group.'

[judaspriestess]

48. hey redqueen, we both like Arsenal and John Edwards

NICE!!

[Joe Chi Minh]

98. You're a Spurs supporter and you like Arsenal! Anyway, glad to see there are

Gunners supporters on here. Though St Barbara, who's patron saint of the gunners (the royal artillery) and miners might not be too taken with your username! I wrote to Arsene Wenger telling him they should pray to her, and their luck changed for the better straight away. Well, that's my story, anyway.

[flasoapbox]

49. LOL

I love how the corporations are shitting their pants
over the admittedly unlikely possibility of Edwards
becoming Prez.

[papau]

51. "Obama would govern as a reasonably pragmatic Democrat" - I agree

[EVDebs]

52. jgaz's journal Edwards supporters: WHY WE FIGHT

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/jgraz

and also, Roseanne Barr just might be right !

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/10/roseanne-barrs-wild-tira_n_81015.html

and a great poster at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4039171

[kurth]

53. Please send this article to everyone you know!

[Triana]

54. WHAT BETTER ENDORSEMENT...

...can a Dem candidate have than that?

[otherlander]

55. When they're scared, I'm happy.

:evilgrin:

[zalinda]

56. Which is why we need him

And I am scared that if he isn't the nominee that we will get a repub in the White House. Whether we like it or not, the repubs don't sound as insane as we think, to the average American voter.

zalinda

[progressoid]

57. "...the interests of middle class families will never again take a back seat to corporate greed..."

:thumbsup:

[paparush]

59. Goddamn Right - Keep Beating that Populist Drum!

Got the US Chamber of Commerce all up in arms.

Keep swinging John!

Wake the sleeping giant that is the poor and formerly middle class.

[Horse with no Name]

66. Thank you so much for this

I've been very upset the past couple of days. This helps. THANK YOU!

[redqueen]

116. I know just what you mean...

my pleasure.

:)

[defendandprotect]

67. EDWARDS would also need a very strong VP --- WHO?

Henry Waxman?

Eleanor Holmes Norton?

[LibraLiz1973]

69. What about Harold Ford?

[defendandprotect]

78. Not that familiar with him --- how about some reasons?

[loudsue]

83. Hell NO!!! Harold Ford is the asshole who's trying to get rid of Dr. Dean! He's DLC

all the way.

Harold Ford is the WORST.

Edwards would need to choose a VP who would continue to fight the corporations for the benefit of the people the same way Edwards is doing, because the corporate assholes are going to try to assassinate him, just like they do every president who tries to help the people.

Maybe Bernie Sanders would be a good VP?

[ChiciB1]

96. Yeah Sure... Ford The Kiss Up for The DLC!! We Had Better Get

something different, Ford IMHO is even to the RIGHT of Obama, and I think Obama is DLC already.

Sorry, I'm not being mean... but Ford talked like Obama BEFORE Obama talked like Obama, as I see it.

[Kurovski]

68. K&R. (nt)

[McCamy Taylor]

70. Edwards is the candidate Democrats want--that is why the MSM will not let them know he exists.

[LibraLiz1973]

71. Bill Maher & Matt Taibi basically agreed with that tonight

[Cronopio]

73. But we want ***THE ROCKSTAR***!

Who cares about qualifications, what this country needs is a black man who can give a good speech!

We need someone who can fill us with hope and keep us hoping - forever! (or at least until January 21, 2009)

I notice the Clinton and Obama supporters are conspicuously absent from this thread. Maybe going to war against corporate greedheads isn't Presidential enough for some people.

K&R.

[earth mom]

102. Yep-People want someone who "they can have a beer with" or who gives them "hope".

Forget about decent paying jobs, constitutional rights or global warming!

Give me a f*cking break. It's absolutely disgusting. :puke:

[Tafiti]

74. Awesome.

And not surprising.

Hopefully Edwards has a strong showing into and through Super Tuesday. Meanwhile, I'll begin donating to his campaign immediately. :dem:

Edwards: our last, best hope. :patriot:

[Didereaux]

75. Can't say they fear him, but they sure as hell don't like him!

[gmudem]

76. This is why I love him

And this is why I don't understand how a real Democrat can possibly support Edwards over Clinton. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me.

[Digit]

77. K&R

[amborin]

79. sorry

but Edwards' rhetoric doesn't mean he'd achieve his goals

what,exactly, did he accomplish in the senate?

just because he filed lawsuits on behalf of his clients, doesn't mean he'd have the political savvy or capability of reining in corporate political power

some Edwards' supporters appear to think his low media profile is evidence of some kind of media conspiracy to shut him out...but it's really because Edwards hasn't demonstrated any traction with his domestic agenda and he's quite weak in international politics

[Digit]

114. Did I ask for your opinion?

I was kicking and recommending the OP. I did not need or ask for your input.
If you wish to foist your opinion into this thread, respond to the OP and not to me directly.

I cannot be swayed from JE, so you are wasting keystrokes.

[Cleita]

80. Good article. Thanks for posting. n/t

[go west young man]

81. Of course they fear him....

because he can win. He can take the South and he can effect change against their corporate monopolies. Clearchannel worries he can reduce their 1200 radio stations nationwide. The MSM worry he will put into effect the fairness doctrine. Banks worry he will reduce their surcharges for unnecessary fees. And The Chamber of Commerce worry he will put work conditions in place that help the individual worker rather than the corporations who want to bilk that worker. Of course their worried. That's why they want Hillary or Obama. They want the status quo. That's why they promote Hillary and Obama everyday on the MSM and not Edwards. They are fucking worried about their bottom line.

[Dover]

82. The corporations fear him so much they invited him to the Bilderberg meeting.

And now the corporate owned media is fashioning him into a populist outsider. Edwards is "at peace" with things because he knows he has their backing.

Pretty transparent.

And he's so in touch with the average Joe he built a multi-million dollar compound that puts the OTHER Southern White House in Texas to shame. Is he expecting to need it as a base of operations in the near future as was the case with the building in Crawford prior to Bush's (s)election?

The populist rhetoric like the hot button Christian rhetoric that was fed to many in the lower income conservative base, is just that...RHETORIC.
And the media is helping to position Edwards as an outsider and populist candidate.
Populism is a big seller this year and any time there is an economic bottoming out and growing class divide.

Does anyone still really believe that A) The U.S. is a true, functioning and unfettered Democracy and B)that these multi-BILLION dollar corporations and global elite are going to leave elections up to 'chance' or in the hands of a true populist?

PUHLEEEEEEEEEZE!

Edwards was not invited to the Bilderberg meeting because of his 'populist' position.

[loudsue]

86. I disagree, Dover. Yes, he went to the Bilderberger meeting. Yes, he was more conservative.

But running in the election of 2004, and then becoming John Kerry's running mate, he learned one helluva lot about what the people in this country are going through. He and John Kerry fell out, because Edwards had already figured out about the problems with the voting machines (I'm from N.C. I made sure he knew...all of it.) , and Kerry wouldn't go the final mile when they both knew the election had been screwed with.

The entire experience changed his feelings about just about everything. Then, in retrospect, the Bilderberger meeting told him everything he needed to know about how people were getting screwed. He's now speaking to the topic because he sat there, he heard them. He KNOWS what they're doing.

And he's pissed!

[Dover]

87. Hi Loudsue

I had no idea you were so close to these matters. How do you come by such an apparently intimate understanding of his inner processes?

I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree, friend.

I see a propaganda machine in motion, and also in evidence in political chatrooms, to make it seem like he's on the outs with the media and the powers that be, and the chamber of commerce...blah, blah, blah. My gut doesn't buy it, and rhetoric is cheap. So I go with my gut.

But then I also see such deeply embedded corruption in this whole process that I don't feel there will be any true and significant change from the top down. Just attempts to manage the people.

Also of note is that I seem to be the only alternative voice in this whole thread. That to me is, in itself, very questionable.

[nannah]

100. you pose an interesting question. how can we trust our election process

and those participating in it after seeing the shambles made out of honesty and integrity by those in power? How can we not be wary of words that shift and the endless hedging and qualifying of positions and policy? At a time when Americans are working harder than ever to keep afloat, people don't have enough time or energy left over to sift through all the deceit in word and deed that is dragging our world down.

Well, I trust John Edwards and here is why. It's his humanity and his humanness.

In his legal career he pushed back against corporate and professional neglect and carelessness that can horribly alter people's lives. Medical error continues to be one of the top three causes of death or injury in the US. Consider the harm people have suffered from problems arising from corporate accounting driven short cuts. He made someone accountable for horrific mistakes. regular people benefitted from his competance.

In his personal life, he, Elizabeth and Cate responded to the loss of their son Wade in a way that expanded their world and brought joy into their lives. When Elizabeth was diagnosed with breast cancer she took responsibility for not getting checkups and urged other women to avoid her mistake. When I see John and Elizabeth Edwards I see human beings whose inspiration comes from their heart place. John Edward's success as a trial lawyer and his support by economists shows that his head place is a great partner for his heart place.

So I'm inspired to believe what he says.

[loudsue]

103. Hmmm. Well, a couple of things.

You said: "I had no idea you were so close to these matters. How do you come by such an apparently intimate understanding of his inner processes?"

That's not quite where I was headed....I only made sure he had the information about election tampering... I'm not really close to any other matters. I just know that there have been times in my life when I underwent an awakening (or two), and it had appeared to me that Edwards has evolved through that kind of thing himself, this go around.

I worked on Edwards' campaign when he ran for the Senate, way back when. And, when all was said & done, I REALLY did NOT like him for the 2004 candidate. If you care to search the archives of that time, I argued against him, and brought up the Bilderberger stuff, and all his conservative (DLC) leanings, AND the fact that he was a pretty lousy senator (unresponsive to constituents, etc) . In fact, I threw a fit when Kerry picked him as his running mate.

Maybe I've been taken in by him out of the desperation that I feel over what is happening here. Like you, I feel fairly hopeless against the huge machine that has stolen our country. We truly are being railroaded by a sinister, corrupt dark force, and this whole election cycle does not lend itself to pulling us out of that tailspin.

So, I hear what you're saying, and through the years I've learned to greatly respect what your "gut" has told you. It is interesting, too, now that you mention it, that you HAVE been the lone dissenting voice.

You've given me pause for thought.

[Dover]

107. Thank you for that, loudsue.

((hug))

Maybe being thrown back on our own 'gut' wisdom is ultimately a good thing.
It's certainly a test of the quality of our connection to that inner source of knowledge.
Follow yours.
Truth has a special and unmistakable resonance. A clear tone.

As I said, I'm seeing significant change coming from the bottom, and put my faith in THAT awakening.
That will unify more than any rhetoric.

Take care, my friend.

[loudsue]

108. And, to the good....

Regardless where Edwards' true motives lie, I believe his rhetoric, like that of Kucinich, Gore, Michael Moore & others, is helping to fuel and reinforce that awakening coming from the bottom.

You are wise, Dover. :hug: I like that in a person!

[Dover]

109. So true...and ironic isn't it?!

Regardless of motive, they all move us toward that awakening.

And BTW...wisesue

I think we have to, ourselves, inhabit the qualities we recognize and admire in others.
Law of attraction.

:hug:

[loudsue]

110. Thank you, Dover.

O8) You're very kind. O8)

[ChiciB1]

97. You Speak The TRUTH & John Edwards IS NOT Edwards 2004!

Those who want to stay back there in the PAST, do so at some RISK.... IMHO!

[Joe Chi Minh]

99. Know your enemy.

[kelligesq]

106. Yes he was -Didja ever think he wouldnt buy into their game? n that's why MSM is closing him out?

you realize David Rockefeller of Bilderburg and MSM thanked Time Magazine in 1992
for keeping their secret for 60 years ? That Time has been attending their meetings all that time?

Give me John Edwards against any other candidate in this country . The only reason I worked for the dems in 2004 was because of John Kerry. He was say9ing the same things then , as he is now.

A decent honest human being who has spent his life fighting for the ordinary man.
Not part of the DC cocktail circuit....like Tweety Mattthews is.

[KitSileya]

84. Which is exactly why I, as a foreigner, have decided to support Edwards.

The one thing that will have an enormous impact on the rest of the world is not just the War on Terror, but also the economic implosion of the US. This coming depression will have huge consequences for the rest of the world. The reason why the US economy is on the brink of destruction is because of deregulation and lax enforcement of the laws that are designed to keep corporations on the straight and narrow. American politicians have rolled over for corporations for years, regardless of party affiliation, and not only poor Americans pay the price. The rest of the world does too - in the form of exploitation, US meddling in national democratic affairs, and war. Therefore, those of us who do not live in the US are best served by a President who is willing to curb the greedy, malignant financial industry - and I do not see that in Clinton or Obama. Edwards has at least mentioned these things in his speeches. I'm therefore throwing my weight behind him (not my money, of course, as I am not allowed to donate.)

[balantz]

113. Thanks for supporting Edwards.

Is he a favorite in Norway?

[malaise]

88. This has been true from day one n/t

[rAVES]

90. Government for the corporations, by the corporations.. Stalin would be so proud right now...

[riona]

92. I want our electorate to wake up

but after the last 2 presidential elections, I don't have much hope. Many voters don't bother to look past the msm spin, false snail and email, many won't look beyond their church's recommendation, many won't look beyond their fear of tax hikes, and many fear change will result in all sorts of dreadful scenarios. It's difficult to move this country in a new direction.

[Evoman]

101. HA! What makes you think the corporate elite "fear" anybody?

They don't. They understand that when you want control, all you have to do is pay. Very few people are incorruptible...even if you have a president who isn't corruptible (which I'm not convinced Edwards is), there is still the congress and senate who will make him a lame duck.

Besides, in general, you play nice with the corps, or you get shot.

Fear?

They have no fear.

They don't fear me, they don't fear you, they don't fear Edwards. They control us, and they laugh at our little delusions.

[redqueen]

117. If they didn't fear him and his message... they wouldn't be

restricting their stories about him to two types: negative & nonexistent.

:hi:

[conspirator]

118. Just because they don't fear us that doesn't mean that we shouldn't piss them off

They control half of the population on ignorance, and the other half with military power.
Edwards is just trying the wake up the ignorant half.

[AzDar]

104. Save America! Vote Edwards!

:patriot: