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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:32 AM
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Poll question: "The surge is working" means primarily:
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 11:38 AM by wtmusic
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:33 AM
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1. I think that this poll only need one option:
"The surge isn't working".

With this administration, up is down, black is white, war is peace, and "the surge is working" means that it most likely isn't.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:34 AM
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2. No "other?" nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:35 AM
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3. You asked for it
you got it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:48 AM
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6. Yee haw! Other: "Is" = "Is NOT" nt
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:36 AM
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4. Ponies for everyone!
Sorry, I had to chuckle at that option :P
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:39 AM
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5. "We've turned the corner in Iraq"
:woohoo:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:49 AM
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7. And then fell down the stairs.
:-(
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:52 AM
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8. We need 500BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS to finish the job!
There are still Iraqi's in Iraq!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:56 AM
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9. More airstrikes!...

Thu, 10 Jan '08
http://www.dailymail.com/News/200801100677
Massive U.S. air strikes pound insurgent havens south of Baghdad
By Hamza Hendawi, The Associated Press

ZAMBARANIYAH, Iraq - U.S. warplanes unleashed one of the most intense air strikes of the Iraq war Thursday, dropping more than 18,000 kilograms of explosives in a thunderous 10-minute onslaught on suspected "al-Qaida in Iraq" safe havens in Sunni farmlands south of Baghdad.

The mighty barrage, recalling the Pentagon's "shock and awe" raids during the 2003 invasion, appeared to mark a significant escalation in a countrywide offensive launched this week to try to cripple remaining insurgent strongholds.
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Maj. Alayne Conway, a spokeswoman for troops in central Iraq, said the amount of ordnance dropped in 10 minutes nearly exceeded what had been used in that region in any month since last June.

Conway said the air attack "was one of the largest air strikes since the onset of the war" in March 2003.

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"Thirty-eight bombs were dropped within the first 10 minutes, with a total tonnage of 40,000 pounds" the statement said. That tonnage would equal just over 18,000 kilograms.


US Doubles Air Attacks in Iraq
By Charles J. Hanley
Associated Press
June 5, 2007

Four years into the war that opened with "shock and awe," U.S. warplanes have again stepped up attacks in Iraq, dropping bombs at more than twice the rate of a year ago. The airpower escalation parallels a nearly four-month-old security crackdown that is bringing 30,000 additional U.S. troops into Baghdad and its surroundings - an urban campaign aimed at restoring order to an area riven with sectarian violence. It also reflects increased availability of planes from U.S. aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. And it appears to be accompanied by a rise in Iraqi civilian casualties.
In the first 4 1/2 months of 2007, American aircraft dropped 237 bombs and missiles in support of
ground forces in Iraq, already surpassing the 229 expended in all of 2006, according to U.S. Air Force figures obtained by The Associated Press.

"Air operations over Iraq have ratcheted up significantly, in the number of sorties, the number of
hours (in the air)," said Col. Joe Guastella, Air Force operations chief for the region. "It has a lot to do with increased pressure on the enemy by MNC-I" - the Multinational Corps-Iraq - "combined with more carriers."
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Examples of attacks, as reported in the Air Force's daily summary:
-Last Friday, an Air Force F-16 fighter dropped a guided 500-pound bomb near the northern city of Tal Afar that destroyed a vehicle laden with explosives to be used as a bomb.
-The day before, an F-16 dropped a similar bomb on "an inaccessible building being used by insurgents" near Samarra, north of Baghdad, with "good effects."
-Last Wednesday, another F-16 dropped bombs on "an illegal bridge and an insurgent vehicle in Baghdad."
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/2007/0605bombardment.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242614,00.html
Officials: Troop Surge in Iraq to Begin This Month
Wednesday, January 10, 2007

WASHINGTON — President Bush will tell the nation Wednesday night that a gradual "surge of 20,000 U.S. troops" to Iraq will begin later this month, and that the administration expects the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to seize control of all 18 provinces by November, senior U.S. officials confirmed to FOX News.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:21 PM
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15. "An illegal bridge?"
Last Wednesday, another F-16 dropped bombs on an illegal bridge and an insurgent vehicle in Baghdad.

They are pulling press releases out of their asses.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:25 PM
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16. It's "snowing" in Baghdad
today...what a difference a day makes!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:01 PM
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10. It's taken the war off the front page and made it less of a campaign issue.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:05 PM
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11. Don't you mean the ESCALATION?


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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:06 PM
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12. Obvious propaganda
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:10 PM
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13. It's a complicated issue: none of the above.
Violence is down in some of the areas that received additional US troops from the escalation. The reason for this is variable. In some areas, the simple presence of more US troops is the only logical reason. In other areas, the Iraqi citizens have become intolerant of the insurgents and have started turning them in. The agreement of cessation of violence by Muqtada al Sadr has also contributed.

There is no reason to believe that Iraq has made great strides to become self-sustaining.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:14 PM
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14. 3000 Marines are on their way to Iraq as we speak.
Knocking down doors and creating more hatred on junior's GWOT.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:56 PM
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17. Other: violence is down due to fewer people to kill
One million dead; four million fled.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:07 PM
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18. An excellent, and much ignored, point. nt
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