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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 PM
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Hamsher of Fire Dog Lake slams Lamont endorsement of Obama
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 10:46 PM by Cheney Killed Bambi
This is one of the silliest, stupidest things I've ever read on Fire Dog Lake:

The only one of the three remaining Democratic candidates who actually went to Connecticut and put his shoulder to the wheel for Lamont was John Edwards. And Edwards has said that if he doesn't do well in South Carolina he'll probably end his race.

If Lamont had gotten Obama's agreement to filibuster FISA in exchange for his endorsement, as Matt says, I can see why Ned might have come out for Obama at this point in time. But he didn't. So under the circumstances, I'm a bit puzzled why he didn't show respect for Edwards and defer this kind of decision until his future was clear.


http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/10/ned-lamont-endorses-obama/

Actually, I'm surprised Hamsher didn't post a photo of Lamont in blackface to protest Ned's endorsement.

(If you don't understand the above, read: http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/08/ned_lamont_fail.html )
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:46 PM
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1. For Jane Hamsher:
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:48 PM
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3. ha!
I'm saving that photo.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 PM
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2. What's unclear to you?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:51 PM
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4. "I'm surprised Hamsher didn't post a photo of Lamont in blackface to protest Ned's endorsement."
I don't know why, but I find this line of post extremely funny!

:hi:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:51 PM
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5. "Didn't post a photo of Lamont in blackface". Wow.
Just...wow.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:51 PM
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6. Hamsher made no such racial statement, and your comment is racially offensive. n/t
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 PM
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7. Yes she did
Read the link. I fail to see how pointing out racism in others is itself racist.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:14 AM
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16. You are delusional. There is nothing in Jane's article to which you linked which addresses race...
In fact how anyone could misinterpret what Jane Hamsher posted to come up with a racial point is virtually impossible. It is all about issues related to support for LaMont and Leiberman.

If there is a racist statement in the linked article, please post the statement here.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:33 AM
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17. whut? whut?
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 12:35 AM by countmyvote4real
I followed your supplied links and then some. My interpretation of HJ in blackface pointed to his policy changes (flip-flops) over his subsequent career in public service.

Second thought, how is it possible that questioning these shifts and pointing out the racial consequences (whether intentional or not) in itself should be called racist? Is racism now the new old gay that must not be spoken?

I also followed your links to this interesting situation for the anointed prince of change. This is the very similar to recent investigations, trials and convictions of some GOP players. Prior to this reading I only thought Obama was naive.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4111483&page=1
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:05 AM
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23. Apparently any general criticism of Obama stems from a deep-seeded racism.
There's enough racism and sexism on this board to to fill a sociology book we don't need to fantasize about there being more than there already is.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 PM
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8. umm. whats this about Edwards saying he might drop out? first I have heard it.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:00 PM
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10. Yeah
first I've heard of it too.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:43 AM
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18. It contradicts statements Edwards made just this week
I'm gonna go out on a limb and call BS on this.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:00 PM
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9. I am embarrassed for Kerry and Lamont
Embarrassed for Kerry because his endorsement of Obama is saying that Kerry didn't do a good job of selecting a VP candidate in 204. Embarrassed for Lamont because he was supposed to be the change candidate in the CT senatorial race, he should back the real change agent in this race John Edwards.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:15 PM
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12. No, Kerry's endorsement says he thinks Obama is better for President.
And, John Edwards is not advocating for the kind of change most voters in this country want.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:32 PM
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13. Are you saying that most voters in this country are anti-labor,
pro-corruption, and happy that all the good paying jobs are being shipped out of the country while the fat cats make more money?

Or maybe it's just that it's become a big popularity contest and the media is playing even the Dem voters like an orchestra?

Nah.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:45 AM
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19. No, the change people want is for something to actually get DONE
to fix problems that affect their daily lives, right here, right now.

Edwards is conflict-oriented and is not going to be able to accomplish the grandiose "reforms" he is claiming he wants. (I say "claiming" because I personally think he is a fake. Just my gut on that one.)

People really do want bipartisanship and a cooperative, fair-minded approach to solving problems. I'm talking about people who vote, but are too busy with other facets of life to be very much into activism. The kind of folks I've talked to when canvassing my local neighborhoods in recent elections.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:52 AM
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20. You can't pursue bipartisan "reforms"
with people who don't see anything wrong with what they're doing and just want to do more of it. If the American people don't get that, they haven't been paying attention. If we don't fight, we're all going to lose.

Americans have grown increasingly short-sighted in recent years and it's likely to be the death of us all.

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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:55 AM
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21. No, you pursue those reforms with the American people
but you get people to the table by being willing to listen, and to find areas of common ground where you can start making progress.

It sounds like you are suggesting that there is no place for conflict resolution techniques in this country's politics. Funny how many so-called "peace" activists I see that also deride conflict resolution. Well, not really funny...sad, actually.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:59 AM
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22. You can't sell peace to war profiteers.
You can't sell truth to liars. You can't sell alternative energy to oil company bigwigs. You can't sell universal healthcare to insurance company executives. It's just not possible. As long as the money to fund our campaigns is being supplied by these people, and our media is being consolidated under their influence, we'll never be able to open a real dialogue within our government OR with the people about any of it.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:07 AM
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24. Great post mythsaje. You can't sell peace to war profiteers. So true.
Obama is about expanding US influence and protecting US 'vital assets' abroad. I know what that means--'vital assets.'
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:14 AM
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27. And who walks the walk:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:20 AM
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28. Spoken like a true Progressive, Mythsaje
Thank you.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:41 PM
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15. Change has a different meaning for these types
Cha-ching!

We've had enough of those who promise one thing during their campaign then deliver something else when elected. If Dems are to ever restore their reputation among voters, they need to advance leaders and candidates who know how to tell the truth and get the job done instead of manipulating voters.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:08 AM
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25. Like he did what he said he was going to do as a senator?
Unbelievable statement.

He was a warmongering centrist while in the senate, but that doesn't matter? It doesn't matter because he's good at manioplating voters?
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:06 PM
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11. Wow. Some of you Obama supporters are burning a lot of bridges. n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:38 PM
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14. Says a lot about Lamont's character
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:43 PM by OzarkDem
Nice way to show your appreciation to a highly qualified candidate who worked hard on your campaign.

None of these cowardly Dems are worth a dime. It will be nice when Dems have the opportunity to let some real leaders rise up in the ranks instead of having to deal with these second string losers.

On edit: And Edwards is not pulling out of the race if he loses S. Carolina. Just more rumor that someone wishes were fact.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 01:12 AM
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26. I like Edwards too.
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