Recount in!!!!!!! Dennis gets 3 percent!!! WoooooHooooooo.

[trumad]

[Wisconsin for Hill]

1. Wow now THAT'S cause for celebration

THREE percent?...whatever.

[Swamp Rat]

11. Hooray for voting transparency and fair elections!!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[Hoof Hearted]

26. Enjoy your stay.

[Contrary1]

36. Aw, let the little feller stay...

Folks like this do serve a purpose. They reinforce the fact that Repubs are idiots.

[Wisconsin for Hill]

41. why the hostility

We are, if you didn't notice, BOTH supporting Hillary.

[TheWatcher]

46. You support Hillary and you wonder why there is hostility?

Stick around, this should be fun.

[HughMoran]

48. Is this the officialy accepted DU approach to those who support Hillary?

I am curious - is this how new people who support Hillary are supposed to be introduced to the site?

[blondeatlast]

51. Hoo, boy.

You are gonna love it here... :rofl:

[Richard Steele]

60. Oh, you poor sweet innocent dear one....what 'blondeatlast' said. nm

[HughMoran]

39. It was a sarcastic poke at the Dennis recount thread

doh!

[Alexander]

2. I don't care what Dennis gets,

But if a recount puts all the vote-rigging stuff to rest, I'm for it.

[Whisp]

15. that's not going to happen, but I sure the hell

appreciate the brave ones like Kucinich and the many tireless people that have worked on this issue to open up the dialogue on this. We need the sunlight and maybe one day, one day.... but it won't be happening overnight - the opposition is just too strong right now.

[OKthatsIT]

47. Nothing was done to improve voter integrity

[rudy23]

3. Read his words, it's not for his own vote count--he STRESSED THAT

Kucinich asks for New Hampshire recount in the interest of election integrity

DETROIT, MI – Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, the most outspoken advocate in the Presidential field and in Congress for election integrity, paper-ballot elections, and campaign finance reform, has sent a letter to the New Hampshire Secretary of State asking for a recount of Tuesday’s election because of “unexplained disparities between hand-counted ballots and machine-counted ballots.”


“I am not making this request in the expectation that a recount will significantly affect the number of votes that were cast on my behalf,” Kucinich stressed in a letter to Secretary of State William M. Gardner. But, “Serious and credible reports, allegations, and rumors have surfaced in the past few days…It is imperative that these questions be addressed in the interest of public confidence in the integrity of the election process and the election machinery – not just in New Hampshire, but in every other state that conducts a primary election.”

Also, the reports, allegations, and rumors regarding possible vote-count irregularities have been further fueled by the stunning disparities between various “independent” pre-election polls and the actual election results," Kucinich wrote. "The integrity, credibility, and value of independent polling are separate issues, but they appear to be relevant in the context of New Hampshire’s votes."

He added, “Ever since the 2000 election – and even before – the American people have been losing faith in the belief that their votes were actually counted. This recount isn’t about who won 39% of 36% or even 1%. It’s about establishing whether 100% of the voters had 100% of their votes counted exactly the way they cast them.”

Kucinich, who drew about 1.4% of the New Hampshire Democratic primary vote, wrote, “This is not about my candidacy or any other individual candidacy. It is about the integrity of the election process.” No other Democratic candidate, he noted, has stepped forward to question or pursue the claims being made.

“New Hampshire is in the unique position to address – and, if so determined, rectify – these issues before they escalate into a massive, nationwide suspicion of the process by which Americans elect their President. Based on the controversies surrounding the Presidential elections in 2004 and 2000, New Hampshire is in a prime position to investigate possible irregularities and to issue findings for the benefit of the entire nation,” Kucinich wrote in his letter.

“Without an official recount, the voters of New Hampshire and the rest of the nation will never know whether there are flaws in our electoral system that need to be identified and addressed at this relatively early point in the Presidential nominating process,” said Kucinich, who is campaigning in Michigan this week in advance of next Tuesday’s Presidential primary in that state.

[chimpymustgo]

4. That's courage and integrity. That's stepping up to the plate.

Tell us where to send money. We'll help with what we can.

[Breeze54]

50. Here you go...Kucinich Donation page Or by phone (877) 413 - 3664

http://www.dennis4president.com/home/

Kucinich Donation page -
https://services.myngp.com/ngponlineservices/contribution.aspx?X=aDlDFFT9TMGh0ghebdP6VkYKCfcT%2fFNw

Or donate by phone: 877 - 413 - 3664

[polichick]

5. That this is even an issue in the U.S. is revolting...

Problem is, not enough of us bother to revolt ~ good on Dennis!
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GET OUT THE VOTE! http://www.cafepress.com/powerboutique

[Le Taz Hot]

55. "I'm your girl!"

Oh, goddess! "Girl?" This from someone who thought baking a batch of cookies was beneath her because she was doing important things. :eyes:

[polichick]

57. I like the term "girl"

My friends and I often call each "girl" or "girlfriend" ~ doesn't matter which of us are baking cookies or hanging out in boardrooms. Maybe it's a baby boom thing.
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GET OUT THE VOTE! http://www.cafepress.com/powerboutique

[Le Taz Hot]

59. If some asshole called me "girl"

in a boardroom, he'd be picking himself up off the floor. And I'm right in the middle of the baby boomers so that theory's down the tubes. Sorry, I just think calling oneself a girl past the age of 18 is embarrassing. If you and your friends want to engage in it, that's your business, but this is a WOMAN who is running to be the Democratic candidate and I don't really want a "girl" in that position.

[polichick]

62. imo it's comparable to saying "guy"

I think your attitude is very uptight ~ no wonder so many in the younger generation reject feminism.
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GET OUT THE VOTE! http://www.cafepress.com/powerboutique

[Bluerthanblue]

9. he's got class and

wisdom.

I appreciate his doing this.

~peace~

[stillcool]

6. Why are some people so resistant...

to insuring an accurate vote count? This should not have to be asked for..this should be standard...in every election. What's the problem?

[MorningGlow]

8. Isn't it interesting...

When the votes were in question between a Repub and a Dem, everyone here was up in arms--"Count all the votes!! Voter fraud!!! Election transparency!" And the Repubs were saying "Get over it."

But now that there may be some fraud affecting the Dem primary, some folks want to look the other way, because there would NEVER be fraud among DEMS, right? "Get over it!"

As far as I'm concerned, nobody's blaming anybody except Diebold--not trying to strip New Hampshire away from Hillary, not trying to instill a two-state sweep for Obama--just trying to ensure the count is accurate, fair, and aboveboard. How can this be a problem?!

[stillcool]

10. I put more people on my....

Ignore list in the last two days, than I have at any time (collectively) in the last 3 years. Attack of the ??? It's funny if I mention the 2004 election..many are still pissy about Kerry not 'fighting' for 'their' vote...but this time it's okey-dokey. They even use the exact same republican slurs that were floated... I guess it really is all a game.

[MorningGlow]

13. I have been on DU for some time and have never put anyone on ignore

But I came reeeaaallly close tonight, over this issue. (I may still do it with one special individual.)

What it comes down to for some folks is "If my candidate is the winner, then who cares if there was a problem with the vote count?" I think it was Stephanie Miller who said on her show this morning that the reason she's interested in what happened in New Hampshire is to find out what's up now--because what if it happens again? What if Hillary is on the losing end of some cheating next time? What will the Hillary supporters say then? It's a fair question.

Bottom line: Fair voting and accurate counts for ALL--all the time. Again, how is this a problem? :shrug:

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. why are you guys not shouting for more proof of residence in the Iowa

elections? There is a thread going around her about how Iowa had record numbers of voters--and in many places the people had no proof of residence and bragged about being brought in by Obama's people to vote.

Why are you not shouting about that?

[MorningGlow]

31. I have no problem with that

Absolutely check the Iowa voter rolls. Ensure accuracy at EVERY stage, in EVERY state. We should expect nothing less, as Americans, than free and fair voting.

[Evergreen Emerald]

35. Why isn't here thread after thread about it?

Why is it only when Clinton wins do you question the results?

[MorningGlow]

38. It's not about Clinton; it's about the unusual discrepancies in NH

Between the exit polls and the vote tallies--in districts where Diebold counted the votes. It just HAPPENED to be Clinton's numbers that were weird. And from what I understand (maybe somebody more in the know can help me out here), all those undecided voters who supposedly chose Clinton at the last moment were tending toward Obama. Despite all protests that it was her emotional moment that changed people's minds, all analysts were boggled by how many people said Obama but apparently voted Clinton.

As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less who ended up at the top of the heap (I'm for Edwards, myself)--I just want to make sure they got to the top of the heap FAIRLY.

[Evergreen Emerald]

49. no. The exit polls were accurate.

[Breeze54]

52. A family who voted for Paul didn't have thier votes counted. That's what started this.

Vote Recount?

http://athensforronpaul.com/archives/195

Posted on January 9th, 2008 by admin

There are questions about the vote count in New Hampshire. The story started in Sutton Country
where Ron Paul was reported at 0 votes. A family in Sutton County all went to the polls and voted
for Ron Paul. They contacted the Country Clerk and inquired about the 0 vote count and asked for
a quick count. The clerk found 31 counts for Ron Paul. This is just a small town/county in New Hampshire.

In the counties that were hand counted here are the results for Ron Paul.

richmond is hand count 34% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
lyman is hand count 28.7% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Orange is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Harts location is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
wentworth is hand count 24% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
goshen is hand count 17.68% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
marlow is hand count 16.6% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
cornish is hand count 14.8% for dr. Paul…100% reporting
Rumney is hand count 14.5% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
croydon is hand count 14 % for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
dorchester is hand count 13.89% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
effingham is hand count 13% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
albany is hand count 12.9% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
antrim is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
south hampton is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
sullivan is hand count 12.61% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
troy is hand count 12.21% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
mason is hand count 11.88% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
newport is hand count 11.45% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
charlstown is hand count 11.3% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Allenstown is hand count 11.16% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
bristol is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
warren is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Strafford is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
washington is hand count 11.02% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
lancaster is hand count 10.9% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
springfield is hand count 10.6% for Dr.Paul…100% reporting
wilton is hand count 10.37% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Northfield is hand count 10.3% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
mont vernon is hand count 10.25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting

Now all the electronic voting machines have him at a 7% state wide. It could be coincidence that
the hand counted counties have a higher Ron Paul support but I am not believing this immediately.

I think the Ron Paul campaign needs to demand a recount in New Hampshire.
Something is a little fishy.

[Le Taz Hot]

56. How do you know the exit polls were accurate?

We have no idea if the exit polls are accurate as no one has been able to see the raw data. Man, there's been thread after thread about these issues and by your numerous responses everything you don't seem to understand any of them.

What the hell is the problem? Elections need to be transparent. Period. There's no ulterior motives here, it's a simple case of people demanding their elections are fair, accurate and tamper-proof. That's it!

[LostinVA]

54. Oh, it is DEFINITELY about Clinton for many, many posters

It started within an hour of the primary being called for her.

Plus, Bev is trolling DU. Some very sincere people are being played.

[LostinVA]

53. Because some posters and Bevbots are using it as a weapon for their own means

And, it's disgusting.

HRC may win NC -- will cried of "rigged election" sound then? Will it after Obama probably wins SC? Where does it stop? It should NEVER be used to score poltical points like sooooo many posters are doing. It's crying wolf, blame and simple.

Electoral reform is very important, and I believe strongly in paper ballots and accountability. However, many -- maybe even MOST -- of these posters just dislike Clinton, or it's Bevbots trying to get money into her coffers.

[Whisp]

19. interesting as well that the 'media' is talking about

discrepancies more so now that when the * and company were stealing like bandits.

interesting times, for sure.

[LanternWaste]

63. There's additional possibilities...

There's additional possibilities. A person may take voter fraud very seriously. So seriously in fact, that they may feel that if recounts are demanded too many times and the results don't change, it will end up diluting the issue. Hence, when an actual contested election is requested, the opposition AND the fence sitters will be given the opportunity to say, "Another episode of the boy crying wolf..."

And that is the precise worry that I have. I'm not asking anyone to get over. I'm simply hoping we don't cry wolf too many times and turn the issue into a joke in doing so.

[Renew Deal]

65. I agree.

It should be standard.

[El Supremo]

7. Good for him!

!

[EFerrari]

12. Three per cent appreciate a public servant?

I'm shocked.

[TahitiNut]

14. Well, "some people" can't imagine someone not acting SOLELY for personal gain.

Sad beings those. Sad.

[EFerrari]

16. I don't know, TahitiNut. This altruism gene has never done me a bit of good.

:dunce:

[TahitiNut]

21. Well, I for one have always liked gals in tight altruism genes.

:dunce: I've had to get my own in larger sizes recently. :silly:

[Desertrose]

17. I'm glad they looked into this- to make the votes count

the way the voters intended.

Good for Dennis!

[MzNov]

18. Where is this, bradblog doesn't have it yet?

[EFerrari]

22. Here's one place:

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homepage-items/kucinich-asks-for-new-hampshire-recount-in-the-interest-of-election-integrity/

[MzNov]

24. Thanks sfexpat2000 !!

:woohoo:

Good for Dennis!

[EFerrari]

32. So much my pleasure.

:woohoo:

[Junkdrawer]

23. Yes he does...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5544

[MzNov]

27. Thanks I saw this, I just didn't see where he got 3%.

Good for him!!!

[Junkdrawer]

33. That's trumad's idea of a joke...

Truly DUzy material. Truly.

[MzNov]

66. Oh. Nevermind.

[Bonobo]

20. Hi Truman!

[Desertrose]

25. Cool. This is great. n/t

[Hoof Hearted]

29. Who did the recount? When? And where are the results posted? n/t

[Zorra]

30. Uh, I believe you are seriously missing the point. *sigh* n/t

[Hoof Hearted]

37. You're right. 2 hours of sleep is making me. . . .

[ConsAreLiars]

34. I get your nasty put down of those who want to see the numbers validated, but

your infantile behavior deserves a put down in return. Post crap like this in the lounge if you cannot resist such childish impulses.

[robinlynne]

40. link? How did they recount so fast? Is it done? I want to read more. please.

[HughMoran]

43. It's sarcasm

:D

[robinlynne]

44. oh shit. I drank too much coffee. Is this a freeper thread?

[HughMoran]

45. no, unless you consider sarcasic posts freeper posts

Dennis did request a recount, but it hasn't happened yet...

[trumad]

58. Thanks for sticking up for me...LOL

It's so damn easy to get DUers goats. I like Dennis--- but I make fun of all the candidates. It's especially funny when you do it on DU---- I usually grab some popcorn, a coke, make my post, and then enjoy the riot. It's quite entertaining.

[HughMoran]

69. No prob

Sometimes I feel bad for those who drop in without knowing what's the latest DU-scoop.

[helderheid]

42. Recount in!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mistakes left and right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Javaman]

61. I hope a recount gets done, but I just feel it will turn into yet another

political kabuki show like everything else has that has any sort of hint of transparency.

[LSK]

64. not 3 percent, 3 votes

:hide:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

67. 3% of the votes, 97% of the integrity.

Which is a downright handicap in elections.

[Desertrose]

68. Good one! I agree...

with both....

"3% of the votes, 97% of the integrity which ...is a downright handicap in elections."